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Hey guys, I havent been around for a little while, been really busy.

So I need some input. I put my notice in at my job so that my last day would be May 1st. I gave about two months notice so they could have plenty of time to find someone and train them. Well they hired two new people, my hours got cut and one other girls hours got cut (by about 50%). When I started (a year ago on the 26th of this month) I had to jump through so many hoops you wouldnt believe it, they just gave me the combo to the safe a few months ago. The new girl (it's been a few weeks since she was hired) already has keys, combos, is making up medicine (something that I have been doing for a short time and I still have to have people look at my labels) (I work in a vet clinic). I've cleand the Dr's kids' rooms, made her bed, house sat, gone to her house to clean her kitty litter box. I've stayed hours late at the clinic while new flooring was being put in, been there early for clients, worked a half hour shift when it takes me 45 minutes one way just to get there because nobody else would. I've filled in for everyone on a moments notice and I've had to wake up early just to call in and see if they wanted me to work that morning. I've worked my butt off. The Dr is a person that nobody likes, if we're being honest. The other employees are really unpleasant when they talk about her and while I dont shower her with roses I try not to be awful about anyone. Saying this to demonstrate that she's really not a nice person, she has 0 morals. She's told me that I don't give 110%, that I'm really not a team player because one day I wouldnt come in to work for someone (which I don't remember, I'm always there when someone needs me) and that I really cant dictate what hours I will and wont work. I don't say I wont work when they need me, if someone asks me "do you want to work whenever" I feel like since theyre asking I do have the right to say yes or no. If they told me I needed to be there at a certain time I would be! So anyway, the Dr told me Thursday that she'd like me to leave April 1st since she cant afford to pay me now that she's hired two new people. I am SO angry. I woke up this morning furious and I was able to let it go for a little while but now I just want to scream or cry or something. This is so unacceptable to me because it's not true. I don't know what to do. I don't know if I should write her or a letter, or try to figure out what to say the next time I see her. I could accept it if the things she is saying about me were true but they arent and...it's such an injustice to me that I'm just..ARGH! What do I do?
 

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Can you just walk out ? I would say if anyone asked my hours were immediately cut in half showing me they did not need all the notice I gave...Do you have another job line up? Do you need this as a reference?
 
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I do need a reference, and the Dr said she would give me a good one, but if I walk out that might change. I did put in an application at the vet where I take my animals, I was there the other day and the office manager encouraged me to apply, but I'm planning on moving in a few months and I don't think they want someone temporary. I do want to walk out though, shouting a few four lettered words behind me as I go. One thing I will miss is the girls, we have two clinic cats that are the sweetest cats ever. I've gotten totally attached to them and I might cry a little bit when I have to leave them
 

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May I ask why you gave SO much notice? I was a trainer and I only gave three weeks to train my replacements . I would Not trust this Vet to give a recommendation is there someone else in the office that you could get?
 
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I've asked the office manager for a letter and I trust that she'll write me a good recommendation. I gave so much notice because they made me train for a long time when I started and I was trying to be polite instead of just leaving them hanging.
 

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I can understand why you are angry, but since the Dr is such an amoral person, I would not take it too personally. She probably sees things in you that she would like to see in herself, but does not have the capacity. She will eventually surround herself with people worse than herself so she can feel smug and superior. It is a shame that you need the reference.
 

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Do you have another job lined up? The reason I'm asking is if you will need to file for unemployment benefits, you should stay at your job until April - and make sure you document how you have been treated. I have a friend who quit her job and because she had proof of how unfair her employer was (false promises, mainly) she was able to get unemployment even though SHE resigned.

If you have another job and you don't need the reference, honestly, I'd just leave.

I had a similar experience - though not to your extent - in one of my previous jobs. My supervisor had started looking for a new job and wanted to groom me to take his position. He kept piling more work and more responsibility onto me (I was actually pretty PO'd until I found out the reason
). When he did find a new job he wanted me to take his place, but those in charge felt differently. Well, wouldn't you know they hired a woman who was 5 years younger than me with no college degree. I'm not knocking people without college degrees, but when I had been at that company for two years, I have a college degree, I had several years more experience than the person they hired for the job I had been groomed for... it was just too much. I ended up leaving a few months later.
 

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Since your reference is not the Vet herself , I would take the office manager aside and state what you told us ... likely she already knows and will give you a good reference regardless of not staying your full notice which you would not anyhow since your effectively being laid off as of April 1... DO you have any sick or vacation time coming? If so I would take it and look for another job
 
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From the Dr I need a recommendation for vet tech school and that does need to be from a Dr. The office manager knows about how I've been treated but its sort of a..."I don't know why she's so mean to you, it's too bad this has been such a bad experience for you" situation. And that's the end of it. I do have a week paid vacation if I can stick it out until March 26th. I've never filed for unemployment before, my boss told me that I wouldnt be able to since I quit but I'm just leaving earlier than I expected.
 

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Originally Posted by MonaxLisa

From the Dr I need a recommendation for vet tech school and that does need to be from a Dr. The office manager knows about how I've been treated but its sort of a..."I don't know why she's so mean to you, it's too bad this has been such a bad experience for you" situation. And that's the end of it. I do have a week paid vacation if I can stick it out until March 26th. I've never filed for unemployment before, my boss told me that I wouldnt be able to since I quit but I'm just leaving earlier than I expected.
Call your states unemployment office .Also take that vacation before you leave.. most have a duress clause to allow quitting but still getting benefits.. Also discuss with them the issues you have told us with the detail of giving till MAY 1 and being told your being let go April 1 .... To me that will be the clincher since they are effectively giving YOU two weeks notice and Firing you after you quit.. Are you moving for school?
 
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That's a good idea to call the state, I definitely will do that! Yeah, I'm moving for school, there's a program here but I don't much care for it.
 

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Nuh uh...might give me away!
I don't have job advice but she's probably picking on you because you're (to her) an easy target. Bullies find the easiest target and usually those are the people who are eager to please. It's not YOU she's really picking on, it's what you represent.
I'm sorry that you're a victim to this person, and I've definitely been in your shoes (I'm also a people-pleaser).

Honestly, Just stick it out until April 1, and chalk the experience up to dealing with a bully.

Good luck!
 

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The position you are in really stinks!! But since you do need the reference, I would not burn any bridges. But yes, hopefully Karma will return the favor for you and this woman will regret treating people badly. Good luck with school!
 

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I can certainly relate to a bad job situation. My advice would be to grit your teeth and hang in there, since you need that recommendation. My advice would be very different, if not for that. Some bosses are just plain evil and I'm sorry you've had the misfortune of working for one of those.
 

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Originally Posted by emrldsky

I don't have job advice but she's probably picking on you because you're (to her) an easy target. Bullies find the easiest target and usually those are the people who are eager to please. It's not YOU she's really picking on, it's what you represent.
I'm sorry that you're a victim to this person, and I've definitely been in your shoes (I'm also a people-pleaser).

Honestly, Just stick it out until April 1, and chalk the experience up to dealing with a bully.

Good luck!


my advice also, exactly. And get the reference in writing, now. Good luck to you in your move and school.
 

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Originally Posted by sharky

Call your states unemployment office .Also take that vacation before you leave.. most have a duress clause to allow quitting but still getting benefits.. Also discuss with them the issues you have told us with the detail of giving till MAY 1 and being told your being let go April 1 .... To me that will be the clincher since they are effectively giving YOU two weeks notice and Firing you after you quit.. Are you moving for school?
Do NOT do this... this will remove your chances of collecting any benefits.... Unless you do it anonymously. You quit, you gave 2 months notice, they have no obligation to accept - the employment is at will, they can let you go immediately the same way you are not obligated to give notice.

You can however, apply for unemployment alleging it was unbearable to work with her, and that it was a hostile work environment for you. That you were forced to quit to keep yourself sane and healthy. That you can do. If there were any differences in treatment, like what you put in here, put that in as well.

The worst that can happen is your application being denied.
 

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Originally Posted by MonaxLisa

Hey guys, I havent been around for a little while, been really busy.

So I need some input. I put my notice in at my job so that my last day would be May 1st. I gave about two months notice so they could have plenty of time to find someone and train them. Well they hired two new people, my hours got cut and one other girls hours got cut (by about 50%). When I started (a year ago on the 26th of this month) I had to jump through so many hoops you wouldnt believe it, they just gave me the combo to the safe a few months ago. The new girl (it's been a few weeks since she was hired) already has keys, combos, is making up medicine (something that I have been doing for a short time and I still have to have people look at my labels) (I work in a vet clinic). I've cleand the Dr's kids' rooms, made her bed, house sat, gone to her house to clean her kitty litter box. I've stayed hours late at the clinic while new flooring was being put in, been there early for clients, worked a half hour shift when it takes me 45 minutes one way just to get there because nobody else would. I've filled in for everyone on a moments notice and I've had to wake up early just to call in and see if they wanted me to work that morning. I've worked my butt off. The Dr is a person that nobody likes, if we're being honest. The other employees are really unpleasant when they talk about her and while I dont shower her with roses I try not to be awful about anyone. Saying this to demonstrate that she's really not a nice person, she has 0 morals. She's told me that I don't give 110%, that I'm really not a team player because one day I wouldnt come in to work for someone (which I don't remember, I'm always there when someone needs me) and that I really cant dictate what hours I will and wont work. I don't say I wont work when they need me, if someone asks me "do you want to work whenever" I feel like since theyre asking I do have the right to say yes or no. If they told me I needed to be there at a certain time I would be! So anyway, the Dr told me Thursday that she'd like me to leave April 1st since she cant afford to pay me now that she's hired two new people. I am SO angry. I woke up this morning furious and I was able to let it go for a little while but now I just want to scream or cry or something. This is so unacceptable to me because it's not true. I don't know what to do. I don't know if I should write her or a letter, or try to figure out what to say the next time I see her. I could accept it if the things she is saying about me were true but they arent and...it's such an injustice to me that I'm just..ARGH! What do I do?
I would get in there this week, very nicely ask them for my recommendation letter in preparation for your departure... And then I would suck it up and be as nice as I could until April 1st.
It sucks, but a reference from the previous employer is extremely important, and do whatever you have to do to get a great one...
After April 1st you are free from them... forever...
 

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Please check with the web site as I have been informed most areas will get your name before the questions are asked ... Laws differ in different areas ... In my area the "firing" of you a month prior would give you benefits . Did you give a written notice and have a copy of it? The other thing to check about quitting is the fact you are leaving for schooling .. For me the reason for leaving was that I left the state and the prior state granted my benefits

As some other mentioned GET the references Now and in writing...
 

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Originally Posted by sharky

Please check with the web site or call and ask without giving your name ... Laws differ in different areas ... In my area the "firing" of you a month prior would give you benefits . Did you give a written notice and have a copy of it? The other thing to check about quitting is the fact you are leaving for schooling .. For me the reason for leaving was that I left the state and the prior state granted my benefits

As some other mentioned GET the references Now and in writing...
I wanted to clarify what I said...
I just don't want you to call and be on record... Their website should be very self explanatory though...
Officially, when you gave notice, you quit. Your employment is at will - meaning, you have no legal obligation to give notice, and the employee to give, or to accept your notice.
Your employee initially took your notice and that's great... However, and don't take me wrong, but from the company's perspective, as an employee who quit, you are no longer motivated to give your best... On their eyes, it is better to let you go, than to have you aboard.
I know you know in your heart this is not the case... I know that... But think about this from the company's perspective - you are living... why should you care?
IMO, what went wrong here, and again please don't take me wrong, I am saying this from a business perspective - your notice was too long. Next time, Think 2 weeks; 3 weeks at their request. If you are not ready to move on on those 2 weeks, don't quit...

I would be nice to them though, and get the reference letter...
 

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I gave one employer a months notice to find a replacement for me but only because they by far were the best employers I had and I wanted to give them ample time to find someone to fill in for me since it was so hard to find someone to work there to begin with.
With the last job I quit I left because after complaint after complaint that I filed they were not enforcing their drug and alcohol policy knowing that people were doing drugs and drinking while working. So I quit it was supposed to be a valid reason for me to collect unemployment but I was still denied. So its a toss up if you can collect or not. The worst they can say is no so it cant hurt to try.
 
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