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tips to keep Jake from crying to go outside..

post #1 of 9
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First of all, Jake is indoor only, and I am really determined to keep him this way..
However, he is always pushing to go outside. Every morning he meows, more like cries, to go out, while standing by the door. This has gone on in the past few weeks since the weather has been getting better..The bottom floor of my house is completely open- there are no doors, and he has a spot on the window of each side of the house to look out of, and all day long he goes from one window to another frantically while following birds that come by. When he decides to sleep he does it very close to the windows and as soon as he hears some commotion outside caused by birds- he wakes up quickly and rushes to the window again, and if I happen to be around while he is hearing more birds than usual, then he is almost impossible to contain, he rushes to the door and starts crying for me to open it, circles around me while I walk, doing low pitched almost like purring noises and rubs himself on my feet with his tail in the air and back slightly arched, and occasionally jumps at my hands, maybe in an attempt to tell me what he wants...
Maybe letting him look out the windows was a bad idea, maybe these birds taunt him more than anything..I don't know.

Outside we have an enclosed yard with a 6ft fence, and the area is large enough for him to run in and chase leaves. So, since he was young he has been allowed to go out supervised, but I can't go out with him every morning and evening for 2 hours- those are the times he usually wants to go. I am so bothered by the whole thing, because my dad always opens the door for him, and he wakes up at 6 am, so past 6 I can't sleep because I have to go watch Jake ..Thankfully I am a light sleeper so I wake up when I hear the door, otherwise my dad would probably just leave him there alone while going to check on him every 5 minutes, and that to me is unsafe and scary. The loss of sleep has been affecting me lately and I just don't know what to do, my schedule is different so I go to sleep really late. I mean, I could talk to my dad, but I know the reason why he lets him out- it's because he can't stand up to Jake's begging and crying. It is truly heart breaking and feels like we're imprisoning him when he starts to cry like this.

I do plan to get him a harness and leash soon, but he loves to sprint from one side to another, it is around 15 meters, so I don't know if he will like being harnessed, and still- I only have about an hour every day to be out there with him, not enough for him

Building a safer enclosure is just not an option right now, I know that would solve all of my problems...

Is there anything else I can do?? Does anyone have a kitty who is just like that??
post #2 of 9
You are going to hate the answer.... I had the same problem with both Lucky and Bugsy when I used to take them to the garden supervised.... The only way to get rid of the problem completely is....... NOT taking them outside AT ALL. NEVER.

So, you have two choices:
One: Letting him out, but dealing with the whining....

Two: Keeping him in only, and no whining... The whining will take a while to fade away, but it WILL fade. Bugsy and Lucky don't whine at all anymore... They do love the window sill though... It is their favorite spot.

I wish I had a better option, but here it really has been all or nothing...
post #3 of 9
I believe you mentioned before that your yard is fairly well fenced but not cat proofed? You could always cat proof it and then you could let him out when he wants to go out and not have to sit out there with him. Depending on your current fence and it's height, it could be fairly simple to do.

Either you give him some time out safely or none at all. He'll stop meowing to go out eventually.
post #4 of 9
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Originally Posted by strange_wings View Post
I believe you mentioned before that your yard is fairly well fenced but not cat proofed? You could always cat proof it and then you could let him out when he wants to go out and not have to sit out there with him. Depending on your current fence and it's height, it could be fairly simple to do.

Either you give him some time out safely or none at all. He'll stop meowing to go out eventually.
I like that third choice! Why not cat proof that fence and add a cat door? Jake would be a happy camper!
post #5 of 9
I believe cats are happiest when they can go outside - but I don't believe that any pet should be allowed to roam.

I hope to someday let most of my gang out into my backyard with MewMew... Or should I say I hope she looses some of her bloodthristy-ness (psycho cat that doesn't really like cats). MewMew has to stay outside because of this and because if she and Siri ever meet face to face it would end badly. My fence is able to keep her in.

I posted a link in a thread in care and grooming for one of the simplest DIY fence modifications. It's no more technical than one installing cat-fence in or purrfect fence.
post #6 of 9
Thread Starter 
I have tried to not let him out at all, but I think I wasn't persistant enough The problem is my dad gives into his begging and Jake knows that ..I will have to talk to him seriously about not letting him out.
I don't know how to cat proof the fence- although it requires putting a top on it, doesn't it?
I mean, I really can't afford any building materials right now so that may not be an option.
post #7 of 9
I don't know if this might help or not in your situation, but it seems to be working for Sophie.

Keep in mind, she is barely 7 months old, and had never tasted outdoor freedom before -- so it's a little different from Jake.

Anyways, I got her wearing a harness and a leash around the house - to the point where she would tolerate it. (a little tedious and frustrating because the house is "boring" to her, so the leash was a big annoying distraction to her... treats helped )

Then, when I was finally ready to take her outside i bought a BELL. I only ring the bell when I take her outside.

The first couple weeks, I would ring the bell (out of her sight), put on her gear, ring it again, and then take her outside. Once she was outside on the leash, she was quite oblivious to it.

After a couple weeks, she realized that wow--she likes that outdoor place, and wow--she'd like to go out more often!! So she started being naughty, and doing everything she knew she wasn't allowed to do. For a couple days she drove me absolutely nuts!! And I couldn't understand why she was being so bad, but eventually it clicked, when I realized she kept sniffing the door.

Did she get to go out? Nope. Her bad antics don't get her outside. So we stayed in. I tried to ignore her, or distract as much as I could. When she was being good, I would ring the bell, dress her up, ring the bell again, and take her out.

We're probably into in week 5 or 6 now. She's pretty much stopped being naughty to insist on going outside, because its not profitable (she'll still be naughty for other reasons though... ). And when I ring that bell, she comes running! (I only have to ring it once now - the association is there). And she'll practically stand there and let me put the harness on her (as long as I'm not too slow about it )

She's figured out that The Bell tells her whether or not she can go outside, and not me.

I also take her out in her carrier, so she doesn't have this sense of ability to go outside on her own - I think the routine dissuades her from that feeling of freedom.

I don't know if it would work for Jake, but I'd thought I'd share my experience anyways.
post #8 of 9
I don't know about other people's cats, but mine sure have spring fever.

Can you lock Jake in the room with you at night? Then make it a routine he can go out when you get home in the evening, but no other time?
post #9 of 9
Might help him if you get a harness. Mine are well aware that when I get out the harness box they are going outside, they don't bother me at any other time they've learnt that harness=outside.
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