Chronic diahorrea???

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Originally Posted by sharky

Pm me .. All I can say is NO issues since adding the grains back in ... Do I blame the no grain food , NOT at all .. Just the old blanket of NO grains for IBS or IBD cats is mistaken
I have a request on this one though... Let's be public, instead of PM'ing, so we can help the OP... This is for her cat


I am not putting a blanket on the issue - I do however, believe that it is part of a group, that can be the issue - and when I addressed the issue, I addressed IBD + Allergies, not IBD alone, and grains are an issue too... We don't know that this cat has IBD. We don't know it has allergies... We are trying to eliminate all the possibilities, and grains can be a problem, so... IMO, take it off too.

so, In her current situation, I do think that eliminating grains and putting her cat on a one protein diet, adding probiotics and a new vet would be an excellent start.
 

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Originally Posted by Carolina

I have a request on this one though... Let's be public, instead of PM'ing, so we can help the OP... This is for her cat


I am not putting a blanket on the issue - I do however, believe that it is part of a group, that can be the issue - and when I addressed the issue, I addressed IBD + Allergies, not IBD alone, and grains are an issue too... We don't know that this cat has IBD. We don't know it has allergies... We are trying to eliminate all the possibilities, and grains can be a problem, so... IMO, take it off too.

so, In her current situation, I do think that eliminating grains and putting her cat on a one protein diet, adding probiotics and a new vet would be an excellent start.
Yes, I would say NO grains would be good to try in the OPs case... One meat one starch... Since she is in the EU it may have to be a one meat one grain as many of the "best" foods are not avail... Meats are also a problem but your not taking those out? Sorry but that is why my recommendation was One meat with One grain or starch .. For this cat in question just going to a more basic and clear on true contents would be like most of us going to a no grain

I would not use a probiotic until seeing a new vet and running further tests , but a better food would be helpful IMHO for overall health
 

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Originally Posted by Carolina

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I would kick out peas since vegetable by products are the second ingredient and are a Known allergen( No do not ask why allergy foods rely on them )

To the OP I would suggest a beef or rabbit formula with as little grain as possible .... Carolina is correct on use a no grain if you can
 

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To be honest this problem could be any number of things.....a vast number of things, especially in an older cat.
Everyone who has posted has suggested good things to try and good things to think about, but I'm sure the person who started this thread is going to feel overwhelmed with the input and some of the contradictions.

I think we all agree about one thing for sure.......taking the cat to another Vet for a second opinion and have some fecal tests done in order to establish a good place to start treating this cat. Parasite infestation needs to be ticked off the list first. The fecal panel should also include a dry smear that checks for rods (bacterial infection).

Once that has been done and the cat is cleared, moving on to other suggestions would certainly be advised.
 

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Originally Posted by Kai Bengals

To be honest this problem could be any number of things.....a vast number of things, especially in an older cat.
Everyone who has posted has suggested good things to try and good things to think about, but I'm sure the person who started this thread is going to feel overwhelmed with the input and some of the contradictions.

I think we all agree about one thing for sure.......taking the cat to another Vet for a second opinion and have some fecal tests done in order to establish a good place to start treating this cat. Parasite infestation needs to be ticked off the list first. The fecal panel should also include a dry smear that checks for rods (bacterial infection).

Once that has been done and the cat is cleared, moving on to other suggestions would certainly be advised.
Yes and Great detail about the dry smear as many of us would not think to ask
 
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Thanks for your input everyone! i'm going to get her to another vet asap, i can't stand seeing my baby girl like this anymore!

but the putting her on a special diet would be quite a big problem, as i have four other cats who tend to eat out of each others dishes...

therfore she will no doubt go eating out of the others dishes too and i wouldn't be able to coup her up in one room for the rest of her life just to get this diet working... so i may have a problem with that.. but we'll see...


but i will do as much as i can tests wise because i know a lot of the ones you all had mention had never been done. especially the TF one, i have printed out the sheet to take with my to the vet and ask if they will do the test...

lots of lovein' for you help people!


and i'll let you know how i get on


 

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Originally Posted by beccamacs

Thanks for your input everyone! i'm going to get her to another vet asap, i can't stand seeing my baby girl like this anymore!

but the putting her on a special diet would be quite a big problem, as i have four other cats who tend to eat out of each others dishes...

therfore she will no doubt go eating out of the others dishes too and i wouldn't be able to coup her up in one room for the rest of her life just to get this diet working... so i may have a problem with that.. but we'll see...


but i will do as much as i can tests wise because i know a lot of the ones you all had mention had never been done. especially the TF one, i have printed out the sheet to take with my to the vet and ask if they will do the test...

lots of lovein' for you help people!


and i'll let you know how i get on


Can they all eat James Well Beloved? I think that would improve her diet considerably already...
There is no problem for all the cats to be on those diets, BTW... They are not prescription...

But yes, VET change ASAP!!!
Good luck!!!!!
 

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Originally Posted by Carolina

Can they all eat James Well Beloved? I think that would improve her diet considerably already...
There is no problem for all the cats to be on those diets, BTW... They are not prescription...

But yes, VET change ASAP!!!
Good luck!!!!!
It is a solid food for most cats of course discuss this with the new vet
 

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One thing to be careful of with JWB is that it is quite rich, I have had lots of fosters who have had to have very gradual introductions to it, and my female with diarrhea issues (hers are due to intestinal lymphoma) cant tolerate it at all anymore, although she can tolerate Purina.
 

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Originally Posted by booktigger

One thing to be careful of with JWB is that it is quite rich, I have had lots of fosters who have had to have very gradual introductions to it, and my female with diarrhea issues (hers are due to intestinal lymphoma) cant tolerate it at all anymore, although she can tolerate Purina.
which Purina if I can ask ?
 

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Purina One - I stopped buying it years ago, as the meat content isn't that high (16% - am sure it used to be 14 though), but someone on a UK forum said it had been recommended to them for cats with sensitive tums and it had worked, so I thought I would try it with Molly and she can tolerate it.
 

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Originally Posted by booktigger

Purina One - I stopped buying it years ago, as the meat content isn't that high (16% - am sure it used to be 14 though), but someone on a UK forum said it had been recommended to them for cats with sensitive tums and it had worked, so I thought I would try it with Molly and she can tolerate it.
that is good to know....Remember UK foods are much different the US
 
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