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post #31 of 57
The mistake was asking for permission. There are plenty of jobs where women wear suits, so it's not outside society's general rules, so, she should've just assumed it was OK and done it; no one would have wanted to make that fuss once she was already there. As long as it covers all the parts and areas immediately surrounding the parts, it'd be more decent than what half the girls are wearing anyway.

If she wanted to have the school's blessing or whatever, she should've had a fallback plan in case they said no, such as getting a dress-and-jacket that was obviously visually inspired by a tuxedo.
post #32 of 57
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Originally Posted by strange_wings View Post
I have a question... since when did being homosexual suddenly mean that one had no morals at all? What about the recent thread about pregnant pre-teens? They didn't get that way from a same sex partner. What about all the teens that are sleeping around and (as pointed out already) dressing inappropriately? Do they suddenly have more morals just because their partner is of the opposite sex?
According to some people, yes, being a homosexual automatically makes you immoral, just like being an Atheist makes you immoral.

On the topic, I have to agree with those that said that she should have been refused her request instead of prom being canceled. I personally think she was trying to do the responsible thing and get permission rather than "crashing the party" and the adults in this situation are the ones acting like pouty children
post #33 of 57
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Originally Posted by katiemae1277 View Post
According to some people, yes, being a homosexual automatically makes you immoral, just like being an Atheist makes you immoral.

On the topic, I have to agree with those that said that she should have been refused her request instead of prom being canceled. I personally think she was trying to do the responsible thing and get permission rather than "crashing the party" and the adults in this situation are the ones acting like pouty children
I disagree. I think she was trying to make a big stink by asking, and causing the school to have to make a public stand on homosexuality. What she got was that and more, and I'll bet her popularity among her classmates who already had prom plans is in the tank. She did this for the attention.
post #34 of 57
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Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45 View Post
Proms have always been girls were prom DRESSES and boys wear TUXES - why do people feel like that has to be changed? Is it to be politically correct and appease the 2% of those that don't like those rules?
That's true. Custom and tradition should just push us along without any regard to social progression. For example, what's with that whole 13th Amendment thing, anyway...I mean, this country was doing just fine and then all of a sudden, they go and abolish slavery.
post #35 of 57
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I disagree. I think she was trying to make a big stink by asking, and causing the school to have to make a public stand on homosexuality. What she got was that and more, and I'll bet her popularity among her classmates who already had prom plans is in the tank. She did this for the attention.
did she call a huge press conference to make her request? I must have missed that part I was under the impression that she made the request in private and the school board made it into a big deal. All they had to do was say no instead of canceling the prom
post #36 of 57
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That's true. Custom and tradition should just push us along without any regard to social progression. For example, what's with that whole 13th Amendment thing, anyway...I mean, this country was doing just fine and then all of a sudden, they go and abolish slavery.
Good one.

heeheehee

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did she call a huge press conference to make her request? I must have missed that part I was under the impression that she made the request in private and the school board made it into a big deal. All they had to do was say no instead of canceling the prom
I agree.
post #37 of 57
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Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45 View Post

Would it have been "equally ok" if a male who claimed he was gay show up at the prom dressed in a DRESS with his date?

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Why yes, yes I would be okay with that.

There were SEVERAL lesbian girls at my prom who wore tuxedos, I didnt have a problem with that and I most definitely wouldn't have had a problem with a man who wanted to wear a dress.

In fact, I commend them for being who they truly are and not surpressing themselves just to please some backwards people who are too narrow-minded to accept the fact that the world IS changing and people ARE more open about their sexuality now.
post #38 of 57
This girl is on Ellen as I speak...and I have to say...she seems very quiet and humble...not at all the type to do something just to stir things up.

What it does appear the situation is, is that she asked to go to the prom with her girlfriend and the school said no. As a compromise, she asked if she could go in a tuxedo. The school board said no...not so much against a girl in the tux, but not wanting to open the door up for a male to come in a dress. When they realized she was going to stand up for her rights, they said the two girls could come together, but could not act as dates (holding hands, slow dancing, kissing)...and would be thrown out if anyone feels uncomfortable. When the ACLU got involved, the prom was cancelled. At which point, she started getting hostile attitudes from her classmates.

She really did not say much at all in the interview (seemed quite shy) - she said she didn't want to go to prom if she had to pretend she wasn't gay. I think this is a very admirable stand to take. She should absolutely have the right to go to prom as herself - in whatever wardrobe and whichever date she chooses. By the sounds of it, it would have been much easier just to say "Ok, then, I won't go"...but she knew she was being discriminated against and stood up for herself. Good for her.

She is also declining those who want to throw them a prom. She says that she wants to go to her SCHOOL prom, which should not have been cancelled because of this.
post #39 of 57
Thanks for the update zoeysmom. I didn't watch but I heard Ellen gave the girl a big fat check/scholarship of some kind.

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The mentality of the school can be summed up with: "I'm just going to take my ball and go home so nobody can play, so...thppft!"
That's the headache-minimizing strategy I guess!
post #40 of 57
The best prom outfit I ever saw was when a girl at my school borrowed her mother's debutante dress, white strapless silk with a bouffant skirt.

Her boyfriend, who had shoulder-length, wavy hair, a beard, and and a muscular, hairy chest, looked FABULOUS in it. I can't remember what she wore.

They got married.
post #41 of 57
^ I can imagine everyone's reactions.
post #42 of 57
Everybody wanted to dance with him. He really did look awesome. He had a lot of attitude.

One day in Boston, I saw this tall, grumpy-looking young guy setting up a painting easel in Copley Square. Nothing unusual about that. But he was wearing a very fancy full-skirted lacy wedding gown.

I assume he lost a bet, but he looked good in his dress, too. Can't remember if he also wore a veil. He also had long hair; a crew cut is the wrong look for a formal gown.
post #43 of 57
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He also had long hair; a crew cut is the wrong look for a formal gown.
post #44 of 57
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He also had long hair; a crew cut is the wrong look for a formal gown.
DH has hair longer than mine (his is down to his lower back) - should I tell him he should start wearing dresses since he has the hair to pull it off?
post #45 of 57
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DH has hair longer than mine (his is down to his lower back) - should I tell him he should start wearing dresses since he has the hair to pull it off?
Well, if you're both intrigued by the idea... but the other thing about both of these guys — they had very trim waists. You really don't want to see a beer gut stuffed into a strapless debutante gown!

You could maybe start him off with a kilt. Men always look good in those!

My husband used to wear an Egyptian galabiya around the house (he spent a lot of time in Egypt, where many men wear them). It's a simple, floor-length robe, usually worn with a long scarf. He looked great in that.
post #46 of 57
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Originally Posted by Bunnelina View Post
The best prom outfit I ever saw was when a girl at my school borrowed her mother's debutante dress, white strapless silk with a bouffant skirt.

Her boyfriend, who had shoulder-length, wavy hair, a beard, and and a muscular, hairy chest, looked FABULOUS in it. I can't remember what she wore.

They got married.
Awesome!! Truly awesome.
post #47 of 57
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DH has hair longer than mine (his is down to his lower back) - should I tell him he should start wearing dresses since he has the hair to pull it off?
If he does, you should take a pic for us
post #48 of 57
Thread Starter 
I heard now that the alternate dance that was going to replace prom was also canceled, people were afraid of law suits. What???
Why????????
This makes me so sad
post #49 of 57
They cancelled it because it had the same regulations as the first (opposite sex dates and girls must wear dresses) and a new one has been planned for tonight (the same night)

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U.S. District Judge Glen Davidson ruled that McMillen's rights were violated but declined to overrule the school board's decision since a private prom had been planned. That prom was canceled Tuesday, but the new one was organized within hours.....

After stops and starts, a private prom is scheduled for Friday at the Fulton Country Club. American Civil Liberties Union attorney Christine Sun said McMillen plans to attend. School board attorney Michele Floyd says McMillen will be allowed to attend with the date of her choice.
but now she feels the need to bring a bodyguard

Link to update, cancellation and new prom all in this article
post #50 of 57
What a mess. And really all of this is senseless. It shouldn't be a matter anymore - the whole live and let live. Her classmates are going to go on to see stranger things in life, I say they need to learn and get over it now otherwise they'll end up ignorant, intolerant, and as close-minded as the school officials.



And if my DH ever does anything that crazy it would be bet/Halloween related. There would be pictures though it would be a rarer event to get me into a dress.
post #51 of 57
Well, it looks like she's getting a 35K settlement.
http://www.rr.com/news/topic/article..._canceled_prom
post #52 of 57
Sad that the world doesn't really care about morals and values any more. But this was all predicted a long time ago "what is evil will become good and what is good will become evil"

At least I know I will still stand up for my values and morals.
post #53 of 57
Good for her! I for one would have been on her side throughout that whole thing! There is no reason whatsoever, especially in this day and age, for her to have not been allowed to go to prom with her partner and or dress however they want to. Id rather see a girl in a tux that some of those skimpy hoochie dresses girls wear. I believe that we should all be allowed to be with whoever we want to be with regardless or sex or color. So good for her for standing up for what she believes in!!
post #54 of 57
I can't imagine how victimized I would feel if my school told me I couldn't go to a dance for any reason. I hope these young ladies get to go and will actually have fun.
post #55 of 57
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Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45 View Post
Sad that the world doesn't really care about morals and values any more. But this was all predicted a long time ago "what is evil will become good and what is good will become evil"

At least I know I will still stand up for my values and morals.
I disagree. I think that "the world" really does care about morals and values...just because they're not exactly like yours doesn't make them wrong, or non-existent.
post #56 of 57
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Originally Posted by Rockcat View Post
Well, it looks like she's getting a 35K settlement.
http://www.rr.com/news/topic/article..._canceled_prom
the link didn't work. But if she is getting that much money, that will give her a nice start for her college fund!
post #57 of 57
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the link didn't work. But if she is getting that much money, that will give her a nice start for her college fund!
Try this one. It's the original link, but it's apparently been updated. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_lesbian_prom_date
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