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post #1 of 27
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Think back to when you were 12 years old. Maybe you had your period, maybe not (girls, obviously). How many had boyfriends? What did that entail? Holding hands, probably. Maybe kissing. Puppy love, definitely. At least in my day (mid-1980s, I know...forever ago!) being really adventurous and giving in to peer pressure meant French Kissing. Making a circle on the playground/soccer field during recess with the couple in the middle so they could/would French Kiss and a lookout running through them to break it up if a teacher were coming over.

OK, maybe I am showing my age there. But still...how many of you and your friends were sexually active at that age? (Rhetorical question...you don't need to answer it!)

My co-worker's daughter is in 6th grade and 12 years old. There is a boy that is a neighbor of theirs who is being accused of impregnating a girl who is also 12 years old. He denies that it's his, they (schoolyard gossip) think it is someone else's baby. She's definitely pregnant. 6th grade, 12 years old.

They recently had an assembly at her school where they talked about bullying and peer pressure and all kinds of stuff that is affecting them. They said that in their school district there are four (4) 4th graders who are pregnant. 4th grade. 10, maybe 11 years old.

I about fell over when she told me that! We read about these young girls who have babies in the news, and many of those are either strange/very wrong situations (i.e. Mom says it's OK for her very young daughter to marry a man who is 10 years older than her, or incest/rape). At least then I think that it's just those strange or wrong/illegal situations that are happening. It's not.

10 years old and having a baby. 4 of them in just one Colorado school district. More of them at 11, 12 and 13, I'm sure.

Sex Education and providing condoms at high school is one thing. But this?
post #2 of 27
Wow, that is just hideous.
post #3 of 27
Oh my god...ten years old! That's just a little girl! That's so sickening.
post #4 of 27
DH's great grandmother had a child when she was 11, so its not necessarily a new thing. We don't know the circumstances. But this is really making a case for sex education to start in schools much before high school (and not just abstinence only either, which doesn't work).
post #5 of 27
I don't remember that sort of peer pressure when I was 12. I do remember one of my friend's liking a boy and I and another friend teasing her ruthlessly for it (we weren't mean, just loved to pick on her). None of us were boy crazy. I was still collecting and playing with my toys (ok, bad example.. I still collect those toys) and was still very much a kid. So were most of my classmates back then.

This is sad. People need to wake up and do something. Set better examples at home? Maybe pay more attention to what they're kids watch (tv shows are all sex sex sex anymore)? Get more involved and know what is going on in their kids lives at the very least. I'd be curious to know the home situation of each of those girls in that area - single parent? Working parents? etc.
post #6 of 27
im only 23 so i can remember quite clearly i wasnt interested in boys at 12 let alone 10, ill tell no lies i was 18 before i wanted anything to really do with men

but when i was at school when i was in year 8 (meaning erm 14 year old i think) there was a girl left school as she got pregnant

i know over here they are wanting to change sex education so that incoperates different religions views on it to so it isnt going to get any better here
post #7 of 27
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Originally Posted by -_aj_- View Post
im only 23 so i can remember quite clearly i wasnt interested in boys at 12 let alone 10, ill tell no lies i was 18 before i wanted anything to really do with men

but when i was at school when i was in year 8 (meaning erm 14 year old i think) there was a girl left school as she got pregnant

i know over here they are wanting to change sex education so that incoperates different religions views on it to so it isnt going to get any better here
LOL I am 21 and I remember also, when I was 10 and 12 I was interested in guys who were 17-20...
Scary, I know, but I never acted on my feelings but boy my hormones were crazy, I was more than ready to have sex at that age..
I agree with Misty though, it's not a new thing, people just need to educate their kids and keep them under close supervision, otherwise in most of the cases it's bound to happen.
post #8 of 27
At that age i knew nothing. She's still a child herself
post #9 of 27
Maybe it's time to rethink our food! I know some girls are having their periods at only 8 years old!!! And boys are shaving at 12! This is too young to be reaching puberty
post #10 of 27
Are you in an urban area? I only ask because I grew up in one and there was definitely talk of sex before 5th grade. I knew girls in 4th grade who let boys put hands up their shirts. :/ I also knew a girl in 8th grade, 13 years old, who was pregnant.

I went to a high school with only 700 students total. In one school year, 50+ girls were reportedly pregnant in the school. If you assume that half of the 700 were girls, that's about 14% of girls, in just one school year. That's not counting the girls that had already had kids, or those that weren't yet reported.

The Honor Society President my Junior year was pregnant.

I only graduated high school 10 years ago, and I believe those statistics are only getting higher.
post #11 of 27
I'm 24 and I can remember being peer pressured to kiss my boyfriend that I had on/off from age 10-12. We went around the other side of a building and agreed to lie and tell everyone we kissed rather than actually doing it. All we did at that age was hold hands.

I am all for sex education in schools, and I'm not talking abstinence only either because we all see how well that works. The topics need to be age appropriate but kids need to start being educated on what they're feeling, their options, etc. because it's a big confusing topic and a lot of he said-she said rumors, peer pressure, and bragging. They need to know what's real and to know how to deal with sexuality and raging hormones.
post #12 of 27
It is not new... my best friend told me I could have a baby when I got my period at 9... The youngest I knew of was 12
post #13 of 27
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Originally Posted by Misty8723 View Post
DH's great grandmother had a child when she was 11, so its not necessarily a new thing. We don't know the circumstances. But this is really making a case for sex education to start in schools much before high school (and not just abstinence only either, which doesn't work).
My great-grandmother was married at 12, and gave birth to my grandmother at 13... This was in 1912... So, yes, not a new thing at all...
post #14 of 27
I'm 30 and I remember a fellow 6th grader who wanted a baby pretty badly. I ended up transferring, so I'm not sure if she was successful or not. I do remember a friend of a "boyfriend" asking me if I would perform oral sex on the "boyfriend". The idea of doing that was pretty much disgusting to me. I remember another sixth grader stepping up and saying that I didn't have to apologize for being a virgin, that that was a good thing. This girl was popular and I sort of repeated that mantra to myself throughout high school. I was assaulted by a boyfriend my junior year, but it seems that's something that has spanned all generations as well. We didn't have any pregnant girls at my middle school that I knew of, but in high school we had them in every grade.
post #15 of 27
When I was in middle school, in two different schools, no one was pregnant (small-er towns). In my HS there were two. I'm not sure about later on (the kids in MSwhen I was in HS) as I tended not to really pay attention to anyone else.

Ironically, one of the girls in my grade that did have a baby had one with a guy that got another girl pregnant a few years later. That girl was underage at the time she got pregnant, but turned 16. He, his older brother, and a friend of theirs murdered her - she was ~6 months pregnant. It was a big thing in that tiny ~1,500 population town. (he's still in prison, his brother who IMO is complete scum got out after just a few years but ended up back in due to drug possession/dealing.)
I consider my past classmate lucky that she didn't end up that way..
post #16 of 27
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I know it's not a new thing and that it's been happening for as long as girls have been able to procreate. But, IMO there's a difference when we talk about 100 years ago and now.

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My great-grandmother was married at 12, and gave birth to my grandmother at 13... This was in 1912... So, yes, not a new thing at all...
(my emphasis) That right there is the difference. They were married at that age. Their education was pretty well complete. Their life expectancy was much lower than now and their years of being able to procreate were much more limited than now. It was socially accepted and expected for them to have babies before they were out of their teens. If a girl wasn't married by the time she was 17 she was a spinster.

Sure, no matter where you grew up, if you're under 40 you knew someone who was a teen mother. It was usually an anomaly. At least it was where I grew up. Definitely not the norm. And while a lot of people talked the talk, after years of knowing many of the same people there weren't all that many that were walking the horizontal walk at the time. Sad, though, how many were pressured to "do it" by people who knew nothing about it.

Here we are talking about girls who are not even half way through their basic education by our cultural standard. I'm not sure how it's done now, but we got the first "sex education" classes about our bodies changing, what sex was, preventing pregnancy and all that in the 4th grade (that was 1982).

The area I'm in is the western suburbs of Denver. It's definitely more suburban than urban, but definitely not rural. Well, the mountain communities are. They are included in the school district, but I don't know if they are included in the statistics. It's technically the same district, but not really.
post #17 of 27
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Originally Posted by -_aj_- View Post
i can remember quite clearly i wasnt interested in boys at 12 let alone 10
I wasn't either.

We had sex education at school beginning at around 9-10 yrs, and continuing through high school. No one in my high school was pregnant while I was there, most of the people I knew from school and found on facebook don't even have kids now and we're all grown up and over 30
post #18 of 27
First sex "education" class I had was in 5th grade, and it was basically a two session class with only girls explaining the period. I was 10 at this time, it was still pretty common for girls to get their periods at 11-12 back then so the school was trying to "educate" us early. Save some our parents the talk about the first period.

I graduated high school in 2004. It was not common that girls were pregnant in my schools but it was common that everyone was having sex. Starting 6th grade is when other kids had sex and it was common. I was 19 my first time, being a major nerd in school and simply just not interested in having sex with boys until 17. I was interested in boys at 14 but not to have sex. I wanted to have a relationship that didn't have sex, but I never felt it could happen. In fact I never gave in to any advances because I felt it would end up as some boy pressuring me to have sex before I was ready.

This is happening these days a lot it seems. My mom first told me what sex was when I was 8. To be honest, I remember the conversation well, and I started it. I wanted to know what it was because I'd seen it in some movie. Mind you it wasn't porn but an R rated movie and I only saw a little bit before I was scolded and told to go back to bed. So she told me, even with her being frank about it I was not interested in having sex until I wast 17. I was just not ready for that. I'm not sure how to stop kids from having sex. As a child who was educated early on about it I simply was not interested in it at all. I think a lot of kids simply fall to peer pressure... I find it hard to believe all these kids wanted to have sex when their body isn't even mature yet.
post #19 of 27
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Originally Posted by valanhb View Post
I know it's not a new thing and that it's been happening for as long as girls have been able to procreate. But, IMO there's a difference when we talk about 100 years ago and now.



Their life expectancy was much lower than now and their years of being able to procreate were much more limited than now.
hummm... This Great grandmother of mine had 21 kids and lived to be 91... My grandmother, her first daughter, is turning 97 in April... I am not sure about their life expectancy being that much less... Not in my family anyways...
post #20 of 27
I think our ancestors were definitely more ready to marry and have children at an early age. By 12 or 13 most of them had much experience in helping their mothers take care of younger brothers and sisters, cooking, working in the fields, etc. It is pushed on children now. The clothes for little girls are definitely made to look provacative. When I had my children dresses looked like dresses for girls, not nightclub dresses for grownups. They had collars and buttoned up the back. Now they are made of slinky material and are cut low enough in the front to be embarrasing.
post #21 of 27
I've looked after several children who were 11, 12, 13, 14, 15 years old and pregnant.

The one that really got to me was one that was 11 years old (closer to 11 than 12) and spontaneously aborted at about 10 weeks or so.

Her Mom had been staying with her. And I couldn't believe the Mom's reaction. She was balling her eyes out!! I absolutely couldn't believe it! I wanted to shake her and tell her to wake up and smell the coffee and that it was the best thing that could have happened to he daughter! Obviously I couldn't.... but man!!!
post #22 of 27
After reading this I was curious and I found a Wikipedia and some other sites that talked about a child who gave birth a 5 years of age. I guess she had some kind of early menstruation thing and it is suspected that it was her farther that impregnated her. That is sick and so crazy that it is even possible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lina_Medina
post #23 of 27
I started my period 3 weeks after I turned 9.
There were also 2 preg girls in my class.
One was 11 and the other was 12.
It has been going on for years.
I wish I could have had kids.
I gave up trying.
post #24 of 27
Kids are growing up too fast (in many ways). I am from a small town and there were several 13 and 14 year olds that were pregnant. People thought that was bad enough. When I was 10, 11, and 12 I was still playing with barbie dolls. Although I got my period at 10, my mom had me so scared to death about sex that I didn't even want to kiss any boy!!
post #25 of 27
I agree kids are growing up far too fast. I started my periods at 12. There are alot of teen pregnancies over hereand its on the rise. I was 17 when I fell pregnant with my daughter, she is now 8 and I am petrified as she already acts so grown up and "knows too much". I love my children but I still think maybe I was a bit young at 17. When I was 12, I was really interested in lads and the same they were all older. Girls look so much older aswell nowadays, its not suprising they end up with "men". I remember when I was 14 I told a 26 year old I was 17 and he believed me!! x
post #26 of 27
I can clearly remember when I was around 11 I got my period. My mom had talked to me about it a few months before that when my cousin got hers. By that time, I had already known what it was and was expecting my own to come. School had seperated the boys and girls and had given us all the "puberty talk".

I was definitely interested in boys at that time, but not in a sexual way really, it was more like I just thought they were cute. I wasn't even considering sex at all.. I remember watching the news and seeing a story of a 12 year old girl who was missing and pregnant.. I was thinking to myself, "Pregnant? At 12? Serioiusly, people have sex at 12?" I was around that age at that time, and sex was unfathomable, it wasn't even on the radar at that age for me.

There were NO pregnant girls in my middle school. Nobody was "doing it" then, actually, many of the kids in my middle school hadn't even French kissed anyone yet. There were a few preggos in my high school. Many of the girls I knew were absolutely DESPERATE to get pregnant, in high school. Most of my childhood and high school friends have had kids already, fresh out of high school. Many of them are single parents now, with more than one kid. My BF's ex had her first baby at 15, she's 22 now and has 3.. She WAS pregnant with her 4th, but miscarried. I'm the only one I know who doesn't have a child, and I've also been in a stable, 7 year relationship, but me and Mike are not ready for kids yet, and we are smart. I'm more than happy with my kitties..
post #27 of 27
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I've looked after several children who were 11, 12, 13, 14, 15 years old and pregnant.

The one that really got to me was one that was 11 years old (closer to 11 than 12) and spontaneously aborted at about 10 weeks or so.

Her Mom had been staying with her. And I couldn't believe the Mom's reaction. She was balling her eyes out!! I absolutely couldn't believe it! I wanted to shake her and tell her to wake up and smell the coffee and that it was the best thing that could have happened to he daughter! Obviously I couldn't.... but man!!!
Argh...I hope she was crying because she was thinking of how hard the whole situation was for her little daughter. It would still be a useless reaction but at least her priorities would be in the right order, to cry about that.

I blame the increasingly loud portion of society with no values for telling kids to do whatever they want (they don't have the maturity for some things, that's why they're called kids!). I also blame kids' clothes for being ridiculous--if I had kids I'd probably have to spend all my time at the sewing machine because I'd be afraid to take them shopping...there is no way in hell my hypothetical kids are even going to have the chance to ask for pants with "hottie" written on the butt (seriously, I've seen that as well as very mini miniskirts in, like, 8-year-old sizes). I also blame the structure of our society for dragging adolescence out into and through the twenties, so that we no longer have a collective idea of when the right time is (we know that 11 or 15 ain't it, but try explaining that to someone who's 11 or 15), and for separating family and work so that kids no longer have a real meaningful idea of what it is to be an adult.

It also seems like kids these days don't really want anything in their futures--stuff, yes, but what I mean is, I remember my friends and I would talk about what we were going to do when we grew up. Some people's ideas changed more than others but it seemed like most people had some idea. Now, since kids don't even have a real idea of how the adult world works, all they want to be is movie stars or rappers and anyone who watches TV knows what kind of lifestyle the kids are expecting to have from that...millions, mansions, babies and breakups. Back when I was a kid (...get off my lawn?), kids wanted to be things like firefighters or doctors or scientists, goals that would give them a reason to not make their own kid too soon and screw it all up.
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