Info about how wrong it is to declaw?

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Originally Posted by kscatlady

The problem is, she's had cats before, growing up and they were declawed. She must have been pretty lucky with them, and so she thinks this cat will be fine.
Keep pestering her! People like that make me so mad!!! She doesn't deserve to have a cat!



What we can do to make declawing illegal here in the US and possibly in Canada too? Let's get a anti declawing movement started!!!!!
 

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The receptionist told me that this is exactly why they always go over what the cat is having done when you check them in in the morning. Glad they did or I would have been horrified when I picked her up, not to mention I would have refused to pay for a procedure I didn't want done.

The thing is she KNOWS that they amputate her toes when they declaw and she still doesn't care. Like I said it's just disgusting and she sounds like the kind of person who would dump the cat at a shelter if it had any kind of issues. Like I also said, it almost seems like she doesn't even want the cat or care about it. It's almost like she's saying "it's just a cat." Well yeah technically Attitude and Nuts are 'just cats' but they are like my children and I sure wouldn't force my 7 year old son to have his fingers amputated at the first joint so he can't scratch me or anything else.

Like I said with Spaz I didn't have a choice(she was too young and too sweet most of the time when we weren't having to go to the ER or doctor's office to get stitched up yet again, and you don't kill family just because they have issues) and the vet made sure I knew every gory detail, even though I already knew what it involved and that is why I tried everything there was before having to resort to declawing her.

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Originally Posted by Carolina

can she adopt a declawed cat, from a shelter, instead?
I thought about that, but I know this girl. I've never really liked her. She's the kind of person you really can't talk sense into. I'm remembering that now. I'm sure she'll say she already loves Frodo.
 

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Originally Posted by kscatlady

I thought about that, but I know this girl. I've never really liked her. She's the kind of person you really can't talk sense into. I'm remembering that now. I'm sure she'll say she already loves Frodo.
Like I said, just keep pestering her. Tell her once she does that to the cat, it will change the cat's personality and how the cat feels towards her. Maybe that will help!
 

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Originally Posted by kscatlady

I thought about that, but I know this girl. I've never really liked her. She's the kind of person you really can't talk sense into. I'm remembering that now. I'm sure she'll say she already loves Frodo.
At least try it... Tell her she'll fall in love with the other kitty too
And she can even name him Frodo too!
And... she won't deal with the cost or with the post-op issues, and the risks, and vet visits.... Kitty will come ready to go!
 

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If she was smart, she would adopt a cat that is ALREADY declawed. There are lots of them at shelters! Why get one that still has his claws if she just intends on doing it anyway? It would be easier and cheaper too just to get one who was already declawed.

I've now had 3 different kittens I've raised on my own, sure the thought crossed my mind, but I did some major research on the procedure and read every pro and con website I could find. There was this one, and I wish I would have bookmarked it, that showed drawn pictures of exactly where the cut is made and the little stub that's left there. To me it honestly appears like if we amputated our entire hand or foot and were left with nothing but a stub. How is that even remotely humane to do that to an animal that needs all of his moving parts just to live his everyday life? After that I swore I wouldn't ever do it. I'm learning how to clip their claws shorter at home and that's totally better than amputating what for us would be the entire hand!

In my family, no one has ever declawed any cats. I didn't even know about declawing until I got to college and adopted my first kitten. I signed a contract when I adopted him and swore to them I'd never do it. And I kept my word. I don't intend on ever putting any of my cats through that kind of torture! I love them far too much to cause them such unreasonable torture!

Argh! Don't get me started! I'll be here all night! My co-worker came to me today and said she had her 1 year old cat declawed and now he won't bury his poo in the litterbox. She said she totally regrets doing it and I just shook my head and asked her why she didn't ask me first cause I would have told her that would happen!
 

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One of the receptionists at my vet's office told me a few weeks back that she'd just had her cat declawed. I was horrified!!! Part of me wants to never take Holland back to that clinic again, but it just didn't make sense because her doctor told me on our first visit that they were anti-declawing there, and all the vets she has seen there have been so loving and kind to my baby. It made me wonder if this woman had her cat declawed at a different place?
 

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When Wrinkles was altered in Jan there was a cat being declawed there.
I was so mad and would have told the people off if I had seen them.
The tech told me they explained everything to the owner and they still wanted it done.
Carolina I hope you get the job.

 

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Originally Posted by mews2much


The tech told me they explained everything to the owner and they still wanted it done.


That is something I really don't understand, vets who are against the surgery but perform it anyway. If only they'd say no, if it weren't so readily available perhaps things would change over there.
 
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Originally Posted by Ruby35

I found it! I found the site that I mentioned in my last post!

http://www.declawing.com/htmls/declawing.htm

When I saw those pictures, I said - No Way!


If that's not enough for her to change her mind, then she is truly beyond hope!
Good website! This is what I said to her:

Listen, I know I'm being pushy. You probably think I should mind my own business, but when it comes to animals, I can't be silent. They have no voice for themselves. I have to be their voice. You know you can adopt already declawed cats, and save a new cat the excrutiating pain? I have one more website to show you. http://www.declawing.com/htmls/declawing.htm

If you do go through with declawing him, don't ask me if you have any questions. You can find answers elsewhere. I strongly believe that declawing is done purely out of the selfishness of the owners. There is no benefit to the cat whatsoever. Ok, I'm done. I hope you make the right decision.

Krysta
 

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I feel you're right, it is done out of selfishness, like many things are done to our pets out of selfishness. Declawing is about the worst. But there are so many horrible things we do and then just tell ourselves it's acceptable for whatever reason, however flimsy. It's just harder to face it and do the right thing.
 

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Personally...If shes not willing to listen or be open to other options and you didnt really care for her to begin with if she goes thru with declawing the cat then F her. People like her are (this is the polite version) buttholes! I just recently had someone debate about declawing a cat because they are renting a furnished home that has leather furniture and they didnt know how to prevent their furniture clawing cat from damaging it. THANK HEAVENS someone brought it up while I was around I grabbed her showed her the softpaws website and she is ordering two kits in pink for her cat and Im going to put them on for her to show her how to use them and now kitty wont be declawed!!!! People who do that to cats are vile evil disgusting humans and should be declawed themselves!!!!
 
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Well, she didn't answer my last message, so I'm assuming that must mean she's going through with the declaw. She's a disgusting, selfish person.
 

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You want to know a way? Tell her to sit in on a manual declaw. Tell her to listen to the sound of their nails being cut and ripped off. Tell her to see how tightly the bandages are after declaw. The sound alone will turn her off. It's gut wrenching. I know it... I've assisted in them. It's horrible.

IF the cats are STRCITLY INDOORS, and preferably have a medical reason for it, LASER DECLAW is soooo much better than manual. It's hard on the wallet, but a better alternative if declawing is the LAST RESORT or for a medical reason.

Two of my kitties had to be declawed for medical reasons; one kitty's paws were so sensitive that she cried when she walked, and the other kitty is mentally challenged and was hanging herself on everything (even when she's actually let me trim her nails, she would still get hung up on blinds, curtains, you name it), and though it was quite pricey, I opted for laser declaw... even so, I was SOOOO nervous about having it done. But, kitties are healthy and no longer hurting, so... it had to be done....

Again, tell her to sit in on a surgery... that would be convincing enough....

Hope everything works out!

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Okie, you are SO right!!

I can't remember if I mentioned it in this thread, but when I was in 7th grade we had a "career" day where we got to shadow a professional in the area where we would like to work. I shadowed a local vet, and the ONLY thing I can really remember from that day was the declawing procedure I witnessed. It was a kitten, and I'm not trying to get too graphic (though I know most people here know what's involved), but watching the vet clip off the bone and remove the claw, and hearing the sound that came out of that kitten haunts me to this day. I was in 7th grade circa 1985. So 25 years later and it is still a horrific memory for me. I only had to witness the procedure. The cats who have to LIVE WITH IT won't even live for 25 years.

Declawing breaks my heart.
 
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I sent her a video, it was the first thing I sent her. I told her if she was willing to do that to her cat she should willing to watch it.
 
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