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http://www.denverpost.com/search/ci_14485472

A piece in the local newspaper about some extracurricular spending that is happening in school districts that are having to cut costs that actually, directly affect students. Jefferson County Schools (where I live, where my co-worker who gave me the article - where her daughter attends) shut down one school starting this year. They had threatened 4. They did not build any snow days into the schedule "to cut costs". This is Colorado right up next to the mountains, some of Jeffco Schools are in the mountains. What are the odds that there is going to be a snow day or two? Sure enough, there were a few and now the kids have to go an extra week to make up for those days.

But the pizza budget between these three Districts is $192,000/year. My co-worker told me that they have pizza delivered at her daughter's school every Friday. That alone would pay for at least 3 teachers for that year. They sent people to Las Vegas, all expenses paid by the District, to attend a Sharepoint (Microsoft application) seminar. I almost guarantee that there are seminars on the use of that application here in Denver with registration running from $200 - $500 that likely cover similar topics.

My co-worker is the bookkeeper and office manager here. She has said (and I completely agree!) that every company, every employee needs to look at and evaluate what they do and consider if it is cost effective, time effective, and environmentally friendly. We've had a lot of little changes here to make sure we are cost and time effective and as green as we can be.

It's just sickening that these school districts that are crying for money, want us to raise property taxes/bonds so they don't have to cut programs for the kids or get rid of teachers are still spending like they have money to spare. :angry:
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It's just sickening that these school districts that are crying for money, want us to raise property taxes/bonds so they don't have to cut programs for the kids or get rid of teachers are still spending like they have money to spare. :angry:
I've been saying for a while...look at how much families spend on their kids. They wouldn't mind spending a few more bucks a month if they really believed it was going to help kids, but a huge amount of money gets dumped into the education system and never gets to anywhere where it can do any good. (This is not teacher bashing--I'm saying this as a teacher.)

I firmly believe that there is enough money in the education system to make good things happen for our kids, if we stopped looking at money as the answer. Kids in one-room schoolhouses in the 1800s could do solid algebra at 10-12 and calculus at 16, and we do not have less in the way of resources than them. What we need to do is prune the deadwood from the budget (I don't mean firing people--if a particular position turns out to not be needed, the person should be put to work in a more effective role) and put the money at or near where the rubber meets the road. (Note: I also don't necessarily mean increasing teacher salaries...would I like more money, sure, but reducing the student-staff ratio, either through smaller classes or more aides, would do more for the kids. Smaller classes in particular would also reduce the teachers' stress level, so if I had to pick I'd vote for that.)

Edit: And if the kids want pizza, they should pass the hat for it. If my geometry class (back at the at-risk charter school; these were a classic example of "the children of poverty") can do it, any kids can do it. Yes, I kicked in a few bucks to cover me and a couple of the kids, about what I would've spent on a meal out.
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I am beyond irritated with the schools here. There are several schools that due to low enrollment, are being considered for closure and the kids will be sent elsewhere. Night after night the parents are on TV raising a stink because they are simply outraged that their school might be closed. Well...unless you're paying to send your kids to private school...it's as much my school as it is yours, even though I don't have any kids attending. If they're not cost effective, we need to trim the fat, not continue raising property taxes and skimming from other services to fund a school that does not need to be there.

The high school I attended closed the end of my junior year. I went to another school and graduated. I wasn't happy about it, but other classmates ended up there too. I actually met DH at the new school. I dunno... I suppose in my case, the change was a good thing.

The state budget here is so lopsided for education that it's painful.
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I agree with you Heidi, but I do want to point out something.

This school district (Jeffco), or at least our High School in particular, has had several individuals embezzle money from parent organizations! I mean at least 3 at the same school in just a few years!

For that reason, all school parent organizations have been disbanded, and the teachers are to use their purchasing cards to obtain things that the parent organizations used to purchase. For example, we used to have fundraisers for the "Moms and Dads for the Arts". And then the choir, jazz band, theatre, etc. would spend money out of that account. Now, the faculty advisor for that program has to go spend the money on the P card. As you imagine, lots of Home Dept charges for the theater department!
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Kim, that really sucks. I mean really, really sucks. I can't imagine embezzlement happening in an organization where it is parents raising the money to go directly for their childrens' school, let alone multiple times.

But if you look at the article they aren't talking about expenses like The Home Depot for theater which is completely understandable.

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Jefferson County schools over just the past eight months spent $580,000 on discretionary food and drink outside of the lunches provided to students.
That can't possibly all be for wrap parties, you know? And that is ridiculous considering the issues that Jeffco is facing financially.

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WOW ... My suggestion get rid of the superintendant and that "fat" and start over .. then maybe catered pizza would not cost the school... At my high school yeah we had catered days but the KIDS paid and the businesses did not charge the school
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Believe me, this is not an isolated incident. This is the normal way school districts are run.

You know what they call our school administration building here? The Taj Majal. It is beyond disgusting. They were building about 10 schools a year here and the fancy schools were pathetic. I work within the commercial construction industry and I am here to tell you they could have built just as safe and secure a school for 30-40% less. You have no idea the money wasted.
Then when times get tough, which they always do, people cry and whine about cutting education money like it is just an immoral thing to do. I don't feel sorry for them.

Our state has made big cuts, people are freaking. Let them freak.
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Originally Posted by valanhb View Post
Kim, that really sucks. I mean really, really sucks. I can't imagine embezzlement happening in an organization where it is parents raising the money to go directly for their childrens' school, let alone multiple times.

But if you look at the article they aren't talking about expenses like The Home Depot for theater which is completely understandable.



That can't possibly all be for wrap parties, you know? And that is ridiculous considering the issues that Jeffco is facing financially.

No kidding - plus, pizza isn't all that healthy. If we were really worried about obesity wouldn't we NOT buy fat-laden food for our kids? Or staff for that matter.
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