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post #1 of 27
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Heard a couple hours ago that Michael Vicks AKA Dog-killer, has been approached to pose in Playgirl for a million dollars with all of it being donated to PETA. I don't even know if I got his last name right--don't care-I have a different name for him, anyway. So what does everyone think about this? I think there should be more humiliation involved than just posing naked for money. Some say he paid his debt to society. Do you think so?
post #2 of 27
Hmph.
post #3 of 27
I am at a complete loss for words.
post #4 of 27
who is he?what did he do?
post #5 of 27
I think he should be taken out and shot personally.
post #6 of 27
His debt to society will never be fulfilled IMO and he will live with the name 'dog killer' till the day he dies. If he gives the million to PETA by showing himself in his birthday suit that's fine with me. If he thinks people will think kindly of him donating that money, he better think again.

He also has a program on Animal Planet called Vicks Project which I have not seen. He looks like he may be trying to change the way people feel about him but it's going to take a lot more than what he is doing IMO. What he did do those innocent animals will take me and many others a very long time to forget....if ever.
post #7 of 27
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Originally Posted by TROANT View Post
who is he?what did he do?
He is a famous american football player who was convicted of a huge dog fighting ring.
post #8 of 27
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who is he?what did he do?
He was an NFL player who had a side "business" dog fighting. When a dog was too old or hurt to serve in this bloodsport they were shot, stabbed, strangled or drowned. He was suddenly remorseful when he got caught--did time in prison (not enough) I think he eventually got picked up by another team. He does have a show on Animal Planet. I've seen his dogs on National Geographic. There is no punishment on this earth that would fit this crime. I hope to God he doesn't procreate!!!!!!!!
post #9 of 27
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Originally Posted by Bellaandme View Post
for a million dollars with all of it being donated to PETA.
If he isn't benefiting financially from the money and it's going to a cause for the ethical treatment of animals, why not?

Personally I would prefer to see some of that money go to some animal shelters too, but hey! Even if PETA has it's oddities and extreme ways of working, at least they are technically on our side.....proper treatment of animals.
post #10 of 27
I think it's a good thing he's donating money, but that doesn't make me see him in a different light, it doesn't change what he did to all those dogs, so I still don't think kindly of him, to put it politely.
He's doing the right things though in donating money to animal organizations. It is hard to believe that he's being genuine though, and in fact I am pretty certain he doesn't care about any animal's welfare and he's doing it all to repair his image.
If we put aside his motive, whatever it may be, it is still a good thing in the end. There is nothing he can do to change what he's already done, him nor anyone, but there are definitely positive things he can do now, and it's a good thing he is doing that.
post #11 of 27
That's what PETA really needs - a million dollars for their continued cr*P
post #12 of 27
Only if they marinate him in meat juices, let him get all naked and then let loose some dogs who are already deemed unadoptable due to visciousness. Then I might, maybe pay to see those pictures. (And no, a donation and a TV show won't ever change my mind about him, if you can't tell already.)

Why not give the money to the organizations who took in and rehabilitated "his" dogs so they could go to good homes? Might compensate them for the atrocities they saw when they picked them up and nursed them back to health. I'm pretty sure that the local Humane Society and Best Friends Network (where a lot of them wound up, since they know how to deal with former fighters) could use the money more than PETA.
post #13 of 27
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Originally Posted by Bellaandme View Post
He was an NFL player who had a side "business" dog fighting. When a dog was too old or hurt to serve in this bloodsport they were shot, stabbed, strangled or drowned. He was suddenly remorseful when he got caught--did time in prison (not enough) I think he eventually got picked up by another team. He does have a show on Animal Planet. I've seen his dogs on National Geographic. There is no punishment on this earth that would fit this crime. I hope to God he doesn't procreate!!!!!!!!
I think he got picked up by the Philadelphia Eagles but not sure. That's why I wanted that team to lose this year...and they did, woo hoo.
post #14 of 27
As much as I despise what he did and think he must be a sick fracker to have thought of it, at least he's trying to repair what he did in some way. A lot of people these days seem to think there's magic in the words "I'm sorry," since making up for things done wrong is practically a lost art. And even if it's all about image, at least he's doing something constructive.
post #15 of 27
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Only if they marinate him in meat juices, let him get all naked and then let loose some dogs who are already deemed unadoptable due to visciousness. Then I might, maybe pay to see those pictures. (And no, a donation and a TV show won't ever change my mind about him, if you can't tell already.)

Why not give the money to the organizations who took in and rehabilitated "his" dogs so they could go to good homes? Might compensate them for the atrocities they saw when they picked them up and nursed them back to health. I'm pretty sure that the local Humane Society and Best Friends Network (where a lot of them wound up, since they know how to deal with former fighters) could use the money more than PETA.


Heidi, I never realized you are such a violent hooligan.

Exactly, give the money to Best Friends, they are the best and are way better than, even, the US Humane Society. I do agree with you, local Humane Society's are good, also.
But, Best Friends, does more for more animals than all the other's put together IMO. I've been to their sanctuary in Utah, it is incredible.
post #16 of 27
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Originally Posted by Bellaandme View Post
He was an NFL player who had a side "business" dog fighting. When a dog was too old or hurt to serve in this bloodsport they were shot, stabbed, strangled or drowned. He was suddenly remorseful when he got caught--did time in prison (not enough) I think he eventually got picked up by another team. He does have a show on Animal Planet. I've seen his dogs on National Geographic. There is no punishment on this earth that would fit this crime. I hope to God he doesn't procreate!!!!!!!!
thats disgusting, how can anyone one trust/believe him again and you say he has an ANIMAL show of all things??? i am horrified, thought it was only here that those horrible things happen!whats his name, i want to google him please?
post #17 of 27
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Originally Posted by valanhb View Post
Only if they marinate him in meat juices, let him get all naked and then let loose some dogs who are already deemed unadoptable due to visciousness. Then I might, maybe pay to see those pictures. (And no, a donation and a TV show won't ever change my mind about him, if you can't tell already.)

Why not give the money to the organizations who took in and rehabilitated "his" dogs so they could go to good homes? Might compensate them for the atrocities they saw when they picked them up and nursed them back to health. I'm pretty sure that the local Humane Society and Best Friends Network (where a lot of them wound up, since they know how to deal with former fighters) could use the money more than PETA.
I think this about summarizes how I feel. Having seen some "mild" cases of dogfighting Pits, having seen the "mild" wounds they have - I can't imagine what his dogs looked like in person.

And for how they were killed when they were of no use? Someone who can do that & sleep at night - what limits/ethics/morals do they have? I still maintain he is wasting the earth's precious resources - like air!

Nothing he does will ever make so many "forgive & forget" what he did. As far as I'm concerned, he can go to .
post #18 of 27
M. Vick has a deep seated evil that cannot be destroyed by saying "sorry". What he did goes to a deeper darkness in his soul. An absense of conscience, empathy and humanity.

He is sorry he got caught. No more than that. He will put on a good show as all sociopaths do. He will donate money and appear to be contrite. He has to to keep up the PR. It is all PR. And if I were starving on the street, I would not take one penny from this poor excuse for a human being. If I were an organization, I would not play into his game. I would not accept anything from him.

There is talk in Buffalo that the football team here may look at him. Typical of sports. No one takes a stand anymore for right or wrong. It is all about money.
post #19 of 27
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Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45 View Post
That's what PETA really needs - a million dollars for their continued cr*P

My thoughts EXACTLY!!!!
Like it or not, long enough or not, Michael Vick HAS served his time and paid his debt. I've never watched the AP show, so I don't know anything about that. I don't think he should do the playgirl spot (yuck and who cares), but if he wants to give money to anyone, PETA is the LAST place it should go! I'd love to see the money go to NAIA, but that won' t happen...not "sensational" enough I'm sure....
Playgirl, Vick and Peta....what an ironic combination...just shaking my head...
post #20 of 27
PETA is somehow always doing gigs with playboy and playgirl with their whole "I'd rather go naked than wear fur" ads..

They are just weird. I don't like PETA but....I can't hold it against Vick that he's donating to the wrong organization.
post #21 of 27
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Heidi, I never realized you are such a violent hooligan.

Exactly, give the money to Best Friends, they are the best and are way better than, even, the US Humane Society. I do agree with you, local Humane Society's are good, also.
But, Best Friends, does more for more animals than all the other's put together IMO. I've been to their sanctuary in Utah, it is incredible.
I thought that he had to pay them money towards the rehabilitation of those animals (I swear I heard something about it while watching the NatGeo show on the dogs).

Does it make it any better? Not for me. I boycotted NFL this past season, much to the "amusement" of friends and family. His debt will NEVER be repaid, IMO.

ETA: From here - http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...gfighting.html

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As part of the sentence, the football star was ordered to pay almost a million U.S. dollars for care of the dogs.
post #22 of 27
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Originally Posted by ckblv
Heidi, I never realized you are such a violent hooligan.
When it comes to dog fighting and a few other topics, such as other forms of animal abuse and child abuse (basically abuse of the innocent) and disrespecting our military men & women, you can bet your bootie I am!

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My thoughts EXACTLY!!!!
Like it or not, long enough or not, Michael Vick HAS served his time and paid his debt.
My husband has said the same thing - that he has paid his debt to society. IMO, he hasn't come close to paying a high enough price. The fact that any team hired him again made me sick.

I understand the concept of giving a felon a chance to get his/her life back on track and all that, and generally I agree with it. But not with sociopaths like him. In my eyes, his crimes against those poor animals is the same as a serial killer, or in the least someone who fosters/adopts multiple children only to neglect them, abuse them, and even kill some of them. Society and the laws differ on this viewpoint, but that doesn't make his debt paid IMO.

Sure, he can play football and make millions of dollars a year legally. He can put on this act that he is a changed man and donate money to PETA and have a TV show. That doesn't mean that I have to like it or support him in any way, shape or form.

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I thought that he had to pay them money towards the rehabilitation of those animals (I swear I heard something about it while watching the NatGeo show on the dogs).

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ETA: From here - http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...gfighting.html
While that may have been the judgement from the court, I really doubt that even a million dollars actually did pay for all the expenses that were incurred in the initial veterinary bills, behavioral assessments, food, further vet costs (shots, check ups, etc.), transportation costs to get the dogs to various shelters around the country (Best Friends only took the most difficult, jumpy or shy or scared) overhead costs and I'm sure more than I can even think of while these shelters held and fostered the 43 dogs that were taken from his property.
post #23 of 27
I think we all need to get in touch with Playgirl Magazine and let them know how deeply, DEEPLY offended we are by them having this guy in their magazine.

Harassing Playgirl's sponsors wouldn't hurt either, in fact, hammering on the sponsors would do the most good, I believe. Anyone know who they are? I will do a search and see if I come up with something.
post #24 of 27
Playgirl is Pornagraphy anyway... I definitely wont be reading it.
post #25 of 27
I used to get Playgirl when I was single...I didn't have any brothers!
post #26 of 27
I don't often venture into the IMO forum, but I am making an exception here. I am furious that Vick has been allowed back into football. This is a bit off-subject, but look at everything baseball and the news media did to Pete Rose over a non-violent offense.

I don't think Vick is sorry; I think he is just trying to worm his way back into the public (and the wormier members of the public will be happy to accept him.) The rest of us, not so much. And I think he hopes to regain high paying sponsors by putting forth his little "effort" in Playgirl.

I don't support PETA; my cats and I are carnivores, and they are extremists. However, they do some good on occasion and I admire them for that. Still, I wouldn't want to help Michael Vick advance his cause. He is scum and that's me being nice. I think I restrained myself pretty well in this post, considering my actual feelings.
post #27 of 27
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Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45 View Post
That's what PETA really needs - a million dollars for their continued cr*P
My thoughts exactly!! That $$ needs to go to pit bull rescues imo if that photoshoot should even be allowed to occur in the first place considering who is posing for the pictures. PETA is the last place that needs a million dollars. Give it to the REAL rescues and shelters that actually help animals!
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