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post #31 of 45
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Originally Posted by merrytreecats View Post
I'd wait at least till 8 weeks. That's when they get their first shots.
Umm.. I thought the vaccinations can't be given before 10 weeks if the kitten isn't an orphan (as the dam's antibody will make the vaccination ineffective)? Our vets recommend first shot at 12 weeks and the boost at 15th or 16th week.
post #32 of 45
My vet suggests 8 weeks for vaccinations and worming.
post #33 of 45
My queens were vacinated prior to breeding. I took the kittens in at 8 weeks for first shots, then 12, 16 weeks. The kittens had all shots except rabies (given at 6 months by my vet) when they left me at 4 months old.

While 8 weeks is bare minimum. The ideal age is 10-12 weeks minimum. Kittens hav more problems (behavior) taking them before 12 weeks. They really are NOT ready socially by 8 weeks to leave home.
post #34 of 45
Our vets will vaccinate (FVRCP, not rabies) at 6-8 weeks depending on weight and health, but then the majority of kittens I have brought in were going straight up for adoption so wouldn't be around the mother anymore
post #35 of 45
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Originally Posted by WellingtonCats View Post
So you decided to go with a Domestic Longhair rather than a Persian?
That looks like a Persian to me actually, shorter face than a domestic longhair. Compare a domestic shorthair or longhair kitten with that white kitten, and you will see.

Also, some slight signs there of eye tearing.
post #36 of 45
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Originally Posted by merrytreecats View Post
That looks like a Persian to me actually, shorter face than a domestic longhair.
If that looks like a Persian to you, how do you tell the difference between BLH and a Persian?
Does this also look like a Persian then?

(Just curious..)
post #37 of 45
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Originally Posted by NorthernGlow View Post
If that looks like a Persian to you, how do you tell the difference between BLH and a Persian?
Does this also look like a Persian then?

(Just curious..)


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Originally Posted by merrytreecats View Post
That looks like a Persian to me actually, shorter face than a domestic longhair. Compare a domestic shorthair or longhair kitten with that white kitten, and you will see.

Also, some slight signs there of eye tearing.
I'm willing to bet that's not a Persian - with a full pedigree of Registered cats. I've seen many Domestic longhairs with facial structure, similar to Persians, but it doesn't make them any more Persian..
post #38 of 45
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Originally Posted by merrytreecats View Post
I think they are all gorgeous.

"Dollface" means a persian with a nose.

I have bad experiences with flat face Persians, I could go on and on. I'd go with any of those beautiful kittens you showed up there way before you went with a flat face. You get a flat face persian and you WILL have eye tearing and face staining, it is a 100% given. Think about that, hard before you decide. Some doll faces will have this--the ones with flat faces in the pedigrees. So, look at the kitten's relatives.

Before 8 weeks old is generally too soon to adopt. I'd wait at least till 8 weeks. That's when they get their first shots and no longer need any milk though they will often nurse longer than that, I've had kittens hang on nursing till like 4 months old in some cases if the mother put up with it. But by then they don't really need it.
I've noticed more and more Persian bashing from you, and just because you have had some bad experiences doesn't mean you should bash all Persians.

IMO there is no such thing as a doll face - total marketing ploy

However I do have Exotics & Persians of various quality.

One of my pet quality babies - at this point in time



There's more to just a Persian then the nose, and with you being an ex- breeder I don't need to point that out..of course

Of course - even with this little girl having a longer nose. You can see her neat small ears,tilting forward. The spacing between the ears, short stocky body, broad chest, plush coat,rounded paws and of course that typical eye colour coming in.
post #39 of 45
IMHO any breeder breeding "Doll Faced Persians" is not a good breeder. Doesn't matter if the cat is going to be showed or not, all breeders should try to make their breed better, by breeding within the 'breed standards.' Last time I looked, none of the Persian standards have anything mentioned about "Doll faced" cats.

Please don't give that moron your money... It is so stupid to give kittens away at 6 wks old, that is setting yourself up for so many problems. Kittens that do not stay with their mothers for 12-16wks miss out on a lot, these kittens grow up not knowing how to act because they didn't get to learn from their mothers. Issues include: biting, pooping/peeing out of the box, and poor health since they were prematurly weaned.

I bottle fed my newest cat (mother abandoned him under my house), and he wouldn't even touch cat food at 8 WEEKS old. Only wanted milk... This isn't typical, but it can happen.

The last kitten, the longhaired white female... it looks like she is in a kitten mill style cage. And either she is in poor health, or she does have some Persian in her. Either way, it would be in your best intrest to either get a real Persian or a DSH from a shelter. I have seen a lot of DSH kittens that look like some of the cats you have posted... Try www.petfinder.com to see if they have any local listing for you. I really hope that you don't give your money to those people.








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Originally Posted by WellingtonCats View Post
One of my pet quality babies - at this point in time

OH MY! That has to be one of the prettiest cats I have even seen! I never saw a Persian that color, grey/white is my fav. So is longhairs.
post #40 of 45
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Originally Posted by NorthernGlow View Post
Umm.. I thought the vaccinations can't be given before 10 weeks if the kitten isn't an orphan (as the dam's antibody will make the vaccination ineffective)?
That's common over here too, first vaccine at 10 weeks then they only need one booster at 14 weeks instead of a round of 3.

Doing it under 10 weeks is pretty useless according to many vets when kittens are with mum.
post #41 of 45
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Originally Posted by KatKisses View Post
IMHO any breeder breeding "Doll Faced Persians" is not a good breeder. Doesn't matter if the cat is going to be showed or not, all breeders should try to make their breed better, by breeding within the 'breed standards.' Last time I looked, none of the Persian standards have anything mentioned about "Doll faced" cats.

Please don't give that moron your money... It is so stupid to give kittens away at 6 wks old, that is setting yourself up for so many problems. Kittens that do not stay with their mothers for 12-16wks miss out on a lot, these kittens grow up not knowing how to act because they didn't get to learn from their mothers. Issues include: biting, pooping/peeing out of the box, and poor health since they were prematurly weaned.

I bottle fed my newest cat (mother abandoned him under my house), and he wouldn't even touch cat food at 8 WEEKS old. Only wanted milk... This isn't typical, but it can happen.

The last kitten, the longhaired white female... it looks like she is in a kitten mill style cage. And either she is in poor health, or she does have some Persian in her. Either way, it would be in your best intrest to either get a real Persian or a DSH from a shelter. I have seen a lot of DSH kittens that look like some of the cats you have posted... Try www.petfinder.com to see if they have any local listing for you. I really hope that you don't give your money to those people.








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OH MY! That has to be one of the prettiest cats I have even seen! I never saw a Persian that color, grey/white is my fav. So is longhairs.
Thanks for saying what I should have said regarding Doll face kittens, you're absolutely right.

Also thanks for the compliments on "Badger".

I breed them in the Longhair version too. Here is one who is going to a show home. Photo taken at 2 months old



post #42 of 45
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Originally Posted by WellingtonCats View Post
Thanks for saying what I should have said regarding Doll face kittens, you're absolutely right.

Also thanks for the compliments on "Badger".

I breed them in the Longhair version too. Here is one who is going to a show home. Photo taken at 2 months old



Now, THAT is a cute Persian!

I am too lazy for a Persian though.... I've got to admit... I love the long hair/low maintenance of a Ragdoll . Nothing Against Persians... Not at all... I think they a WONDERFUL cats, with the best personality ever! But seriously, I barely brush MY own hair every day - let alone all kitties! No way!
Now, the exotics on another hand..... that is a whole other story!
post #43 of 45
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Originally Posted by Carolina View Post
I am too lazy for a Persian though.... I've got to admit... I love the long hair/low maintenance of a Ragdoll .
That's why I was going to go with BSHs instead a Persian (had a blue Persian in the past), but I just couldn't help myself when the BSH litter had that one extra hairy fluffball in there..and I ended up with a longhair. The coat texture is very similar to Persians, just 'supposed' to be a bit shorter (which actually doesn't happen that often, atleast in silvers).
I swear I'm going to end up with a Persian one day,shaded or chinchilla of course..
post #44 of 45
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Originally Posted by WellingtonCats View Post
Also thanks for the compliments on "Badger".

I breed them in the Longhair version too. Here is one who is going to a show home. Photo taken at 2 months old



Oh my goodness!!!!! I didn't realize that the other one wasn't longhaired, that wispy kitten hair fools me.


How can you stand so much cuteness??? Your babies are so cute!
post #45 of 45
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Originally Posted by missymotus View Post
That's common over here too, first vaccine at 10 weeks then they only need one booster at 14 weeks instead of a round of 3.

Doing it under 10 weeks is pretty useless according to many vets when kittens are with mum.
It's important to know that the colostrum (the antibodies) is only present in the first 24-36 hours of milk flow. After that, kittens aren't getting any more antibodies from the queen. So regardless of how long they continue to nurse, there will be no more immunity passed on.

Here is a link to an interesting article that explains the whole process. Most interesting is the "window of susceptibility" in regards to vaccines and preventing disease.
http://www.peteducation.com/article....1+1388&aid=845
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