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Seeing as some think waterboarding isn't torture

post #1 of 10
2/8/10 at 2:00pm
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Seeing as there are some that insist that waterboarding isn't torture, then that would make this perfectly acceptable, right?

U.S. soldier Joshua Tabor waterboards his daughter, 4, because she couldn't recite alphabet: police


It actually makes it interesting that this soldier is being charged with felony assault. Assaulting a prisoner to obtain information he/she may or may not be withholding is considered torture. So how does this add up?
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post #2 of 10
2/8/10 at 2:21pm
Stupid courts! They should have left that little girl with her grandparents instead of giving her to her whacked father.

When I get home I am going to look up the local newspaper from where this happened and get more info.
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post #3 of 10
2/8/10 at 6:58pm
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
Stupid courts! They should have left that little girl with her grandparents instead of giving her to her whacked father.

When I get home I am going to look up the local newspaper from where this happened and get more info.
But why? They had no indication that her father was "whacked". And from what I've been told numerous, as in lots and lots, of times on this very forum is that waterboarding is hardly worse than corporal punishment.
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post #4 of 10
2/9/10 at 12:03pm
You may want to wait until the investigation is complete. Seem as though the media may have jumped the gun on the waterboarding



http://www.yelmonline.com/articles/2...6704151680.txt

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The term was picked up by national media outlets; however, Stancil said he never referred to it as waterboarding.
Stancil is the Police Chief. I think they should throw the book at this guy and I'm glad to know the little girl is back with her grandparents in Montana. No way will this dude EVER get her back. If he does then the responsibility will lie with the State of Washington.
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post #5 of 10
2/9/10 at 12:11pm
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But why? They had no indication that her father was "whacked". And from what I've been told numerous, as in lots and lots, of times on this very forum is that waterboarding is hardly worse than corporal punishment.
There has to be some reason why this girl was living with her grandparents and not with her mother and not with her father.

Fact is, we are not privy to the details of why. There is much more than meets the eye with this case.
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post #6 of 10
2/9/10 at 2:30pm
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
You may want to wait until the investigation is complete. Seem as though the media may have jumped the gun on the waterboarding



http://www.yelmonline.com/articles/2...6704151680.txt



Stancil is the Police Chief. I think they should throw the book at this guy and I'm glad to know the little girl is back with her grandparents in Montana. No way will this dude EVER get her back. If he does then the responsibility will lie with the State of Washington.
Ah, ok. So giving the same psychological technique a different name makes it all ok.
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post #7 of 10
2/9/10 at 2:31pm
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There has to be some reason why this girl was living with her grandparents and not with her mother and not with her father.

Fact is, we are not privy to the details of why. There is much more than meets the eye with this case.
It would be quite improper for him to have had his daughter with him in a combat zone. Maybe even a little dangerous.
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post #8 of 10
2/9/10 at 2:39pm
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Ah, ok. So giving the same psychological technique a different name makes it all ok.
The fact is, this guy is a puke of a father. But it is only same IF water was poured on her face.

I didn't read anywhere, when he was overseas, did you? And where was mommy dearest?

Besides, did you miss the words, "court ordered"?
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post #9 of 10
2/9/10 at 2:45pm
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The fact is, this guy is a puke of a father. But it is only same IF water was poured on her face.

I didn't read anywhere, when he was overseas, did you? And where was mommy dearest?

Besides, did you miss the words, "court ordered"?
It was in the original article;

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Cops said Army Sgt. Joshua Tabor, 27, who served 15 months in Iraq, admitted to punishing his daughter by holding her down on the kitchen counter in suburban Washington State and repeatedly pushing her head backward into a full sink.
Of course the court would award custody a birth parent, unless they have very, very good cause to do otherwise. What did the court miss that would have told them he would waterboard his daughter?
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post #10 of 10
2/9/10 at 2:52pm
This whole story makes me sick. That poor little girl. She is going to have to live with the memory of this horrible abuse and trauma.
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