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post #1 of 58
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It would appear that the National Tea Party Convention has attracted more reporters than participants.

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20...0340/1001/NEWS

The idea of the sponsor using this as a money maker appears to have gone bust in a really, really big way. He won't even make enough to cover Palin's tab.

It's a shame really. If the movement had maintained some momentum, it may have amounted to something. I guess Americans in general just don't have the attention span for such things.
post #2 of 58
For me, the problem with the tea party movement is that there doesn't seem to be a real unity of purpose. Just look at the signs that are carried at their rallies, which seem to be all over the map, and it's hard to even figure out what they're protesting for or against.
post #3 of 58
Don't count the Tea Party movement out just yet SKippy.

If you haven't been to "figure out" what the Tea Party movement is about, then you are one of the few. They are against Government taking over everything and taxing us to death to do it. They are, bipartisan protestors that are critical of Republicans and Democrats alike.
post #4 of 58
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Don't count the Tea Party movement out just yet SKippy.

If you haven't been to "figure out" what the Tea Party movement is about, then you are one of the few. They are against Government taking over everything and taxing us to death to do it. They are, bipartisan protestors that are critical of Republicans and Democrats alike.
I'm not counting them totally out yet...and I think that an umbrella movement covering lots of ideals is great. I just wish they could get together and use one umbrella.
post #5 of 58
...and ya gotta love that remark that Tancredo made about literacy and civic tests. Looks as if he wants to bring back George Wallace's America! I figured the Tea party out, they are about hate. Dust off those old John Birch Society bumper stickers and put them on yer truck!!!
post #6 of 58
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Originally Posted by Mom of Franz View Post
...and ya gotta love that remark that Tancredo made about literacy and civic tests. Looks as if he wants to bring back George Wallace's America! I figured the Tea party out, they are about hate. Dust off those old John Birch Society bumper stickers and put them on yer truck!!!
LOL, oh yes, if you disagree with the Obama administration policies your are a "racist" and about "hate."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTamBfz0Efo&NR=1
short video: 58 seconds total that shows the ultimate hypocrisy of the above words, IMO.

If you protest the policies of the Obama administration you are a "hater" and a "racist", if you protested the policies of the Bush administration you are the good guy. hahahahahahaha What a joke.



post #7 of 58
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The United States isn’t Weimar Germany, not least because of our well-established two-party system. But the Tea Party movement is busily taking over the Republican Party (and in effect already controls its powerful propaganda ministries on Fox News and Clear Channel, something the Nazis never enjoyed.) That movement is based largely upon paranoia and absurd theories about who controls America, what the Obama Administration is doing, and why. (Rush Limbaugh, to whom I listened for a while today, insists that Obama has purposely wrecked the economy to make a statist takeover possible. He could not conceal his excitement over the possible Republican victory in Massachusetts and what it might mean.) And of course, one of their tactics is to pin the Fascist/National Socialist label on President Obama, a moderate liberal.
Now while I am not accusing the Republican Party or the Tea Party movement of Fascism, I do think that we are now threatened with a complete collapse of national authority, brought about in large measure by their mad ideological excess and hatred of liberal elites.
http://historyunfolding.blogspot.com/search?q=tea+party

Hopefully this will die a quick death. I'm not looking forward to living through a repeat of teh McCarthy era.
post #8 of 58
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http://historyunfolding.blogspot.com/search?q=tea+party

Hopefully this will die a quick death. I'm not looking forward to living through a repeat of teh McCarthy era.
That article is the biggest bunch of hogwash I have ever read.

The Tea Party Movement wants the Constitution of the United States upheld, do you want our Constitution to die a "quick death?"

No one can disagree with the policies of Barack Obama? Because that is all it is, people that disagree with making government any bigger than it is right now. So that is a horrible thing? That is something that deserved to be called "hate" and "racism?" I beg to differ.
post #9 of 58
If you protest the policies of the Obama administration you are a "hater" and a "racist", if you protested the policies of the Bush administration you are the good guy. hahahahahahaha What a joke.



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No joke...

Hmmmmm, let's see Tea Party + Hitler posters, that pretty much adds up to hate in my book!

I'm glad someone else sees the correlation to McCarthyism here. Old Joe is doing a fox trot in his grave!
post #10 of 58
I fully support the Tea Party movement and I don't think it is going away any time soon. In fact, if things keep up the way they are, it will only grow stronger and that is a very very good thing. I want goverment out of our lives and I am sick and tired of paying more and more of my hard earned wages in taxes. I pay more taxes and then have the stupid goverment telling me what I can or can not do in my private life. We need to take back this country and do it fast, before it is to late
I disagree with Obama's policies, so I guess I am a hater...my wife too, because she can't stand him either.
post #11 of 58
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If you protest the policies of the Obama administration you are a "hater" and a "racist", if you protested the policies of the Bush administration you are the good guy. hahahahahahaha What a joke.



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No joke...

Hmmmmm, let's see Tea Party + Hitler posters, that pretty much adds up to hate in my book!

I'm glad someone else sees the correlation to McCarthyism here. Old Joe is doing a fox trot in his grave!
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There was a reporter on CNN (I think) who went to one of the tea parties and preceeded to make fun of and show the protesters in the worst possible way. Interrupting and being basically a total jerk. But then someone put a video out on youtube of this same reporter, first frowning at a sign that showed Obama as Hitler (she want on and on about how 'disrepectful' it was) and then it went to her at a anti-Bush rally a few years prior. And here she showed a protester with big sign that showed Bush as Hitler and she said "And we see some familiar faces." and laughed at it. so I gues it all about who you are protesting against, not how you do it.
post #12 of 58
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LOL, oh yes, if you disagree with the Obama administration policies your are a "racist" and about "hate."
If you protest the policies of the Obama administration you are a "hater" and a "racist", if you protested the policies of the Bush administration you are the good guy. hahahahahahaha What a joke.



My sentiments exactly.
post #13 of 58
Telynn, The first quote in your post above, it NOT mine!
post #14 of 58
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
Don't count the Tea Party movement out just yet SKippy.

If you haven't been to "figure out" what the Tea Party movement is about, then you are one of the few. They are against Government taking over everything and taxing us to death to do it. They are, bipartisan protestors that are critical of Republicans and Democrats alike.
There actually seems to be three different organizations who are "in charge" of the tea party movement, FreedomWorks (Dick Armey), Americans for Prosperity, and dontGO. Whether or not this is an astroturf movement or genuine grass roots is up for debate. They seem to have somewhat different agendas.

http://politics.theatlantic.com/2009..._in_charge.php

What I see when I watch the rallies and protests are a lot of signs protesting different things - not just taxes, which is what it was originally supposed to be about I believe.

Right now, more than I ever remember seeing in the past, this nation is a house divided. There is nothing wrong with protesting the policies and politics of the party in power. However, even better would be for those who are in a postion to do something, try working together for compromises both sides can live with. Nothing is absolute, nothing is black and white, but some would have us believe it is.

None of this should be about which party is in power - which is what its all boiled down to. Neither party cares one whit about the country or the Amrican people. All they care about is getting and maintaining power. The Republicans want to give the power to the big banks and corporations, who also don't give a whit about anything other than their own profits. The Democrats don't know what the heck they want, and spend most of the time chasing their own tails. Government is not only too big, it's totally ineffective. We one party saying NO to everything, even if its something they believe in, because they've determined its the way for them to take back power. And the other party spends all their time trying to make that party say yes to something so they can claim they are "bipartisan." Then we have lies and distortions being fed to us by so-called reliable news sources (from both sides).

Okay, I've veered off topic. To get back on topic, I see the Tea Party crowd and supporters as fear mongers who are trying to take down this country, not take back the country. Take it back from what? To what? I would rather try to figure out what we all have in common than participate in activities that further divide us. And that goes for Right, Left, and everything inbetween.
post #15 of 58
There was a reporter on CNN (I think) who went to one of the tea parties and preceeded to make fun of and show the protesters in the worst possible way. Interrupting and being basically a total jerk. But then someone put a video out on youtube of this same reporter, first frowning at a sign that showed Obama as Hitler (she want on and on about how 'disrepectful' it was) and then it went to her at a anti-Bush rally a few years prior. And here she showed a protester with big sign that showed Bush as Hitler and she said "And we see some familiar faces." and laughed at it. so I gues it all about who you are protesting against, not how you do it.[/quote]

Thank you for this post.

At any protest there will be a few that step over the line, it always happens and it happens to both parties.
post #16 of 58
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Originally Posted by Misty8723 View Post
There actually seems to be three different organizations who are "in charge" of the tea party movement, FreedomWorks (Dick Armey), Americans for Prosperity, and dontGO. Whether or not this is an astroturf movement or genuine grass roots is up for debate. They seem to have somewhat different agendas.

http://politics.theatlantic.com/2009..._in_charge.php

What I see when I watch the rallies and protests are a lot of signs protesting different things - not just taxes, which is what it was originally supposed to be about I believe.

Right now, more than I ever remember seeing in the past, this nation is a house divided. There is nothing wrong with protesting the policies and politics of the party in power. However, even better would be for those who are in a postion to do something, try working together for compromises both sides can live with. Nothing is absolute, nothing is black and white, but some would have us believe it is.

None of this should be about which party is in power - which is what its all boiled down to. Neither party cares one whit about the country or the Amrican people. All they care about is getting and maintaining power. The Republicans want to give the power to the big banks and corporations, who also don't give a whit about anything other than their own profits. The Democrats don't know what the heck they want, and spend most of the time chasing their own tails. Government is not only too big, it's totally ineffective. We one party saying NO to everything, even if its something they believe in, because they've determined its the way for them to take back power. And the other party spends all their time trying to make that party say yes to something so they can claim they are "bipartisan." Then we have lies and distortions being fed to us by so-called reliable news sources (from both sides).

Okay, I've veered off topic. To get back on topic, I see the Tea Party crowd and supporters as fear mongers who are trying to take down this country, not take back the country. Take it back from what? To what? I would rather try to figure out what we all have in common than participate in activities that further divide us. And that goes for Right, Left, and everything inbetween.
1. Ahhh, the old, "Republicans are for the big corporations" argument. Did Barack not bail out Wall Street? What is Wall Street?
Did Barack not take over auto mfrs, so now GM is known as Government Motors?
Did Barack not make special deals with the corrupt Unions? (Remember that secret ballot thingie, among others)
Did Barack not bail out banks? That old argument is tired and has died IMO. Has Barack not given the sweetheat deals to his biggest campaign contributors?


The Tea Party people and supporters want the Constitution upheld, some people call that "fear mongering", I don't happen to be one of them.

2. "Take the Country back from what", you ask, from an administration that will not be satisfied until they nationalize every dang thing in this country.

IMO, the Obama administration is the one that will bring the country down if allowed to.
post #17 of 58
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
LOL, oh yes, if you disagree with the Obama administration policies your are a "racist" and about "hate."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTamBfz0Efo&NR=1
short video: 58 seconds total that shows the ultimate hypocrisy of the above words, IMO.

If you protest the policies of the Obama administration you are a "hater" and a "racist", if you protested the policies of the Bush administration you are the good guy. hahahahahahaha What a joke.



Hey, no one commented on my cool youtube video link?
post #18 of 58
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
Hey, no one commented on my cool youtube video link?

That video is a lot like the one of that reporter I was commenting on. When it was Bush being shown as Hitler it was all giggles. When it was Obama it was horribly disrespectful.
post #19 of 58
Thank goodness America is waking up. I think it is the beginning of the end for politics as usual. Gee, sorry I don't want to pay for other people. I don't want to "share the wealth". My husband and I have worked very hard for all we have. There is no reason a person can't "make it" in this country.

I think that in fifty years, we will look back at this time in history and it will be obvious that this is the start of the second American revolution. Not bloody as the first, but changed at the voting booths.

If Obama ran today, I think he would loose.
post #20 of 58
I agree with FarleyV. I think if we had elections right now, Obama would be packing up and leaving Washington. I think America is waking up. Many of those who voted for him are realizing they are getting change, but not the kind of change they were expecting. Hang on America and come on 2012.
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Thank goodness America is waking up. I think it is the beginning of the end for politics as usual. Gee, sorry I don't want to pay for other people. I don't want to "share the wealth". My husband and I have worked very hard for all we have. There is no reason a person can't "make it" in this country.

I think that in fifty years, we will look back at this time in history and it will be obvious that this is the start of the second American revolution. Not bloody as the first, but changed at the voting booths.

If Obama ran today, I think he would loose.
I agree. It's time we pulled the plug on all those socialist programs like WIC, Welfare, Medicare, Social Security, prescription drug subsidies for seniors, etc. Because after all, anything following a socialist model is bad, right! Think of all the money we'd save. We could refund the pitiable amount people paid toward Medicare and let them "make it on their own". No more paying for anyone else.
post #22 of 58
Ah, but a lot can happen in 2 1/2 years. I don't have any trouble at all imagining any one of a dozens scenarios.

The Tea Party thing is, I think, a flash in the pan that is currently being exploited by the Republicans and the independents (and certainly the Libertarians). Do I think it will still be around in 2012? Probably, but I don't think it will be very significant, because most people know that a big third party is a good way to elect the second best candidate.
post #23 of 58
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I agree with FarleyV. I think if we had elections right now, Obama would be packing up and leaving Washington. I think America is waking up. Many of those who voted for him are realizing they are getting change, but not the kind of change they were expecting. Hang on America and come on 2012.
The ol' "if the election were held today" line is a load of crap anyway, since the election is NOT being held today. Similar to "if pigs had wings!"

People forget that Ronald Reagan did not have a very positive first year either, in fact he was considered a "one termer."

A lot of people here are just dying, foaming at the mouth to see Obama fail...that is a really sad state of affairs. Of course you won't admit it, that would be "Un-American" huh?
post #24 of 58
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I agree. It's time we pulled the plug on all those socialist programs like WIC, Welfare, Medicare, Social Security, prescription drug subsidies for seniors, etc. Because after all, anything following a socialist model is bad, right! Think of all the money we'd save. We could refund the pitiable amount people paid toward Medicare and let them "make it on their own". No more paying for anyone else.
Now, Skippy, that isn't what he said. Although you do realize that Medicare and Social Security are not just freebies, they take $$$ out of each and every paycheck to go to both. But I digress, I fully support helping all people that need help. I do NOT support giving hand outs to people that just want to live on the Government's (the American taxpayer's)
dime.


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The ol' "if the election were held today" line is a load of crap anyway, since the election is NOT being held today. Similar to "if pigs had wings!"

People forget that Ronald Reagan did not have a very positive first year either, in fact he was considered a "one termer."

A lot of people here are just dying, foaming at the mouth to see Obama fail...that is a really sad state of affairs. Of course you won't admit it, that would be "Un-American" huh?
I will admit it! I want most of the policies that Barack wants to institute to FAIL!
post #25 of 58
I do not believe the Tea Party movement wants to become a third political party.

T = Taxed
E = Enough
A = Already


To all who think the average American is not paying enough in taxes, feel free to adjust your W-2 accordingly, Barack would be thrilled to get your extra money. After all, Barack knows better than we do, what to do with our money.
post #26 of 58
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Now, Skippy, that isn't what he said. Although you do realize that Medicare and Social Security are not just freebies, they take $$$ out of each and every paycheck to go to both.
They aren't freebies, but some people get a lot more out of those programs than they paid into them. So they are in fact a redistribution of wealth. Sounds pretty socialistic to me.
post #27 of 58
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A lot of people here are just dying, foaming at the mouth to see Obama fail...that is a really sad state of affairs. Of course you won't admit it, that would be "Un-American" huh?
Obama has ALREADY failed IMO. He will continue to fail for the rest of his term.
post #28 of 58
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They aren't freebies, but some people get a lot more out of those programs than they paid into them. So they are in fact a redistribution of wealth. Sounds pretty socialistic to me.
And some people get NOTHING out of these programs that they paid into.

post #29 of 58
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
Now, Skippy, that isn't what he said. Although you do realize that Medicare and Social Security are not just freebies, they take $$$ out of each and every paycheck to go to both. But I digress, I fully support helping all people that need help. I do NOT support giving hand outs to people that just want to live on the Government's (the American taxpayer's)
dime.




I will admit it! I want most of the policies that Barack wants to institute to FAIL!
No socialist policies are freebies. They all take tax and distribute, and almost always like these policies, distributing to most far in excess of what they contribute. If socialism is that bad, then they have to go.

In fact, when those programs were being instituted, there was shouting and protesting that they were "socialist" and "nationalizing healthcare". So why are they now "must have's"? If they were socialist then, they are socialist now.
post #30 of 58
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And some people get NOTHING out of these programs that they paid into.

But those that need it, do. That is where the "social" in social programs comes from. It doesn't mean "social" as in meeting over cocktails at the Brown Derby. It is social as in "socialist". That means they're bad, right?"
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