Death Knell for Harry Reid - Page 2

Yep, and to heck with the people that are struggling and have lost their homes, after all, they don't really matter.


And many have lost their homes, their families and their dignity DUE to gambling. I don't trust an industry based on people's weaknesses. There is an unclean odor to the whole idea. Same goes for the tobbaco industry. People are not staying away from Vegas because of Obama's remarks...it is as the saying goes, it's the economy stupid!

Well if what I think about it is not true, do you have any proof to substantiate your claim that Obama's first statement is what hurt Las Vegas and that it was not the economy in general?

And as Obama was pointing out, it is ones PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY not to gamble when you have other more pressing responsibilities. I see Vegas as a town that obviously promotes greed drawing people in to get them addicted--just like the tobacco companies promote smoking. Some people are more prone to addiction. A bad culture indeed in my view--to say nothing about how Vegas objectifies woman.

Just because your mayor says someone told him they weren't coming due to the president's comment, doesn't make it true and doesn't constitute proof that convention cancelations were the direct result of what Obama said.

I think Republicans and anyone who is annoyed that Obama is the president just look for anything to get up in arms about. It's the same as Bush bashing all over again, expect it's the other side doing the bashing now.

Pretty ridiculous and I voted for McCain.

Sorry, but to me speculation is not proof.

It would be more believable to me that Las Vegas was hurt by Obama's comment, if for instance, a company that was booked for a convention in Las Vegas had canceled and then held their convention elsewhere.
Then it would have the appearance that economics alone wasn't at work.

Sorry about the new citizens from CA - we're glad to see them go, hope you're able to marginalize them. Our current Governor is taking a lot of heat because of the economic situation we're in ... I'm not a Schwarzenegger fan - but, he has tried to hold the line on spending, and is taking a lot of heat - and blame - because the Spenders can't spend more $$'s.

Funny that you say Reid was unable to get $$ for Nevada - it also seems that way here - we have the Speaker of the House here, and a couple other progressives here, and I'm not seeing any a lot of representations on behalf of our state getting any $$, either - except ?? something for San Francisco. There's some potential stuff - but nothing that will create jobs in the next month or so.

Obama had a point about not throwing away money - but, really - why choose to pick on a state and city that has a high unemployment rate - hotels, car rentals, air transportation, taxi, -- all are people, too - and it was like Obama just said they didn't need to work or the money??? What was he thinking!??

My guess is he was thinking about encourgaging people to spend responsibly. That's all.

I think I made it! In fact I know I did.

How is it proof without statistics to back it up? Just because a person quoted by the media has made that statement, doesn't mean it's true. It was merely the opinion of the person quoted.

I could be quoted by the media insisting that the sky is not blue, but in fact pink.

Are you going to believe that as well? No, of course you won't.

You don't like Obama, we all know that. He made reference to the city you call home, as perhaps not the best place for people to spend/waste money during a severe economic downturn, and you have taken IMO, an over the top amount of offense.
Yes, maybe he should have made a more all-inclusive reference to gambling cities, but his message was clear to anyone with an open mind.

do you deny that business has also tanked severely for Reno? Oh, guess that's the NV connection
And the same for our CA Indian casinos...guess cuz we're next to NV, right? gee, and Inyo & Mono counties, who are much more like being in NV (we shop in Reno, fly out of Vegas), are also tanked could it really be the President? or maybe.....
....or The 2008 Economic Crisis, following the 2007 High-gas prices may have been the real factor....
Vegas was in trouble a long time ago, along with Disney, Mammoth Mountain, & other vacation spots. During the housing boom (it was a boom, just like a mining boom), people flocked to Vegas, water became a serious issue, crime skyrocketed; now the economy collapsed and people are laid off. Part of the problem was that many of the workers in Vegas were employed in the construction trade & hospitality industry; low educational level. I know first hand, because I have suggested to our clients to go there for work (before the 2008 crash) because it was a place that was easier to get a job while on parole and/or having pled guilty to felonies. Those industries, in whatever town you find them, are more likely to give a person a 2nd chance; sadly, those are the people most vulnerable to economic downturns.

"Responsible families don't do their budgets the way the federal government does. Right? When times are tough, you tighten your belts. You don't go buying a boat when you can barely pay your mortgage. You don't blow a bunch of cash on Vegas when you're trying to save for college. You prioritize. You make tough choices. It's time your government did the same".
I agree - the President was simply pointing out that we should spend vacation money on vacation; rent on rent; tuition money on tuition. In other words, spend wisely. He was also critical of conventions that are held in Vegas on taxpayer dollars. Why should taxpayers support conventions and trips to Vegas & Reno for state legislators, etc?
IMO, he's being realistic. I am sick & tired of hearing people complain about they cant' make the mortgage, worry about the high car payment, when they've got huge credit card debt & plenty of toys - quads, travel trailers, expensive hunting gear, top of the line computers, etc. I do have sympathy for the unemployed, but we get so many calls for people who want to declare bankruptcy and they have many more toys than I would ever have dared to buy, but I'm just an old-fashioned country girl who was raised that 100% down, $0/month payments was sound policy.

BTW - Why is this titled "Death Knell for Harry Reid"? Sen. Reid critized the President for the same remark that you are, as is evidenced by the President's letter to Sen. Reid dated 02/04/10:
http://media.lasvegassun.com/media/p.../obama0202.pdf

I thought it was "Waking up in Vegas" by Katy Perry that caused the drop in business.

What makes me mad is the fact that no matter what has happened since Obama has taken office, Obama will NOT take any responsibility - he blames it ALL on the Bush administration.

He doesn't care that he's piled tons more debt on our kids then Bush did in all 8 yrs when he's been in office - and Obama has done this in ONE year! What's the deficit gonna be 3 yrs from now?

And would someone point out exactly what GOOD thing that Obama has done since he took office? Not what he's planning on doing. Not what he's lying to the American people about what is going on...but exactly what good has he done so far??? Those that are tired of the Repubs or "right wingers" saying all the negative things that have occured - tell me what positive things have happened?