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Warning: Disturbing detail --Family turns in 17yo cat torturer

post #1 of 21
1/26/10 at 5:31pm
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The poor calico was knifed, put into a bag & kicked to death. The perpetrator's family responded to news stories & took the kid down to the police station. To me that shows a family that loves him no matter what, and maybe he will get the psych help that he needs. But others that I know think that is the ultimate betrayal - to snitch off your own family. What's your opinion?
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post #2 of 21
1/26/10 at 5:42pm
If a family member or someone I knew did such a thing, it would be a toss up between whether I would turn them in or kill them myself.

I don't think betrayal even comes into play when you're dealing with someone who is mentally ill or dangerous. That kids family deserves a medal, IMO.
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post #3 of 21
1/26/10 at 5:58pm
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Originally Posted by Cinder View Post

I don't think betrayal even comes into play when you're dealing with someone who is mentally ill or dangerous. That kids family deserves a medal, IMO.
I agree. Knowing myself, yes, I would report it but before doing so I 'd try to find at least one other relative to co-snitch with me. Strength in numbers.
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post #4 of 21
1/26/10 at 7:06pm
Also, maybe the family doesn't feel like they betrayed him because apparently it was their pet! And on top of that ... declawed.

Possibly other members of the family cared for her (Cleo), which might explain why they turned him in.
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post #5 of 21
1/26/10 at 7:16pm
It isn't betrayal. Likely the parents already tried to help him with certain aggressive behavior, people don't turn into abusers overnight, they had to have noticed something being off about him and tried to help him change. Without the intervention of the law, if nothing else worked- of course they had to turn him in, otherwise he would continue to cause so much harm to innocent animals. I would be worried if they didn't turn him in, that would be one messed up family.
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post #6 of 21
1/26/10 at 7:26pm
Betrayal? No way. Someone who can do that to an animal does not belong free and at large. Everyone is at risk, including the family. I hope the poor kitty died quickly.

The family did the right thing. Maybe the boy can get help, but at the very least, he won't be able to hurt another animal, though there will probably be copy cat crimes from the story.



<by the way, this thread needs a warning of graphic content in the title. If I had known that the first post was going to describe what happened in detail, I never would have opened it. I have a lot of trouble coping with graphic detail like that, and I'm sure I'm not the only one..>
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post #7 of 21
1/27/10 at 3:36am
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Originally Posted by Cinder View Post
If a family member or someone I knew did such a thing, it would be a toss up between whether I would turn them in or kill them myself.
Same here. The thought of letting that die exactly the same way the poor kitty did seems very tempting.
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post #8 of 21
1/27/10 at 8:54am
I would turn in a family member without any hesitation.
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post #9 of 21
1/27/10 at 9:34am
There are members in my family (well hubby's actual) that would not snitch no matter what. When it comes to cruelty or murder then I think the people who KNEW about it and didn't report it, should have some kind of penalty too.

That is just not right to NOT say something and turn them in. I would turn them in to the police in a heartbeat - family, friend or stranger!
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post #10 of 21
1/29/10 at 11:46am
I would absolutely turn in my own family if I caught them doing something like that.

That poor sweet baby, may she RIP
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post #11 of 21
1/29/10 at 12:25pm
He would be dragged, by the scruff of the neck to the nearest police station and officers there would be told - He tortured and killed a defenseless animal. He is all yours. Put him in the general jail population. Oh and let everyone know what he did.
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post #12 of 21
1/29/10 at 1:17pm
I would turn them in, but i need to deal with him/her first
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post #13 of 21
1/30/10 at 5:15am
Of course, the person needs serious help. As far as turning in a family member, we were faced with that decision once. It was the right thing to do even if we did have to visit them in prison, which we did.
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post #14 of 21
1/30/10 at 7:13am
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<by the way, this thread needs a warning of graphic content in the title. If I had known that the first post was going to describe what happened in detail, I never would have opened it. I have a lot of trouble coping with graphic detail like that, and I'm sure I'm not the only one..>
I'm sorry - I should have realized that myself - thank you for the alert, and Thank You Mods, for adding the warning. I feel bad that I've upset some people - and it makes me realize that I might be unaware of how crass I'm becoming (seeing the evidence from crimes combined with life experiences is probably causing this, but I really, really, really don't want to become an embittered or insensitive person)
.....back to the topic - I applaud the family esp. after dealing with yet another parent of a Domestic Violence defendant who took pix of his son's bedroom walls as proof that since the walls aren't broken, the victim wasn't shoved into the walls that hard and is faking her bruisings (I suppose she painted them on ) Sometimes, I want to take the time to create a survey of our defense files, and determine what percentage of our "frequent flyers" have the parents who are over-involved - it's a red flag for me when the parent, not the defendant, calls the lawyers, the rehabs, makes the mental health appts., etc.....
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post #15 of 21
1/31/10 at 12:13am
Kudos to the family for turning in the culprit, especially since they are risking public ridicule/ scrutiny by doing so. Many families would be in denial or are too riddled with problems to report such incidents.

The article also mentioned that the family turned in their other 2 cats to the HS after the incident. Without being aware of the details it seems that they know there is a problem and are possibly trying to get this kid help by turning him in, since this type of behavior is often the first indicator that someone has serious psychological problems and may become a danger to other people.
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post #16 of 21
2/2/10 at 5:08am
I would do it in an instant.
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post #17 of 21
2/2/10 at 6:56am
I reckon I'd tell the police in which hospital they could find what was left of him once I got done.....
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post #18 of 21
2/2/10 at 7:02am
There are no penalties harsh enough for this brutal torturer. The law could have him after I was done with him. Where did he learn this behavior was acceptable? These are the kind of people that grow up to be serial killers. I have no heart when it comes to people abusing animals. As for the family turning him in; well, they should have intervened earlier. Doesn't the possibility of a mental or emotional disorder minimize what he did? NO. I don't care what demons he has, he needs to have a taste of his own medicine.
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post #19 of 21
2/2/10 at 3:20pm
There should be jail time for people who kill cats.
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post #20 of 21
2/2/10 at 3:42pm
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There should be jail time for people who kill cats.
Time in the morgue after a slow, torturous death seems more appropriate to me. People like this absolutely make me sick. If I ever saw someone torturing an animal I would turn them in, no matter who they are, but not before I beat on them for a while. I'd give them a few scars and broken bones so they will remember what can happen if they do it again.
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post #21 of 21
2/2/10 at 4:50pm
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Originally Posted by TigerOnTheProwl View Post
Time in the morgue after a slow, torturous death seems more appropriate to me. People like this absolutely make me sick. If I ever saw someone torturing an animal I would turn them in, no matter who they are, but not before I beat on them for a while. I'd give them a few scars and broken bones so they will remember what can happen if they do it again.
I agree with this too.
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