Gift threads - A decision from TCS Moderating Team

valanhb

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Some of you may remember that a thread was posted about a policy and some threads were removed regarding publicly thanking other TCS members for gifts right around Christmas. Bah Humbug!
We have come to a decision regarding these types of threads and would like to clarify it to everyone.

What we were concerned about and what had actually been disallowed in the past were thank you threads between friends on the site as those can be done privately. The history behind this was a group of people who had become friends were sending each other little gifts and were thanking each other on the board, but it was very apparent to anyone who was paying attention that it was a small circle of friends. We got complaints from new and old members who said that it made them feel very excluded on the entire site and especially in the Cat Lounge because they werenâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t included in the “cliqueâ€. I know that the group werenâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t trying to be exclusive or form a clique, but that was the perception by some other members, and it was something we could understand as well. Sometimes perception is as bad as actually doing the perceived deed. So thanking privately sent gifts publicly was disallowed. There wasnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t ever a reason to remind the members of this policy until this year when it seemed that suddenly the Cat Lounge was taken over by Thank You threads.

After long discussions by the team including input from members who had given anonymous gifts and felt that those should be an exception to the overall rule, we made a decision. The main argument was that the anonymous pick-me-up gifts should be excluded because posting on the board is the only way for the person to share their thanks and excitement with whomever sent the gift, and because it shares with the community that this is a different kind of web-community. That we truly care for each other, we notice when things are going wrong in a personâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]s life or that they donâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t have people in real life to share Christmas (or birthdays, etc.) with, and that we truly are friends here.

For those main reasons, and many more, we made the decision that while we do still ask people to keep their thanks for gifts between friends private, we will allow the anonymous thank-youâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]s to continue as they have for years. We have made a note to remind people of this policy well before Christmas, as that is when the Lounge can be overrun with those types of threads as it was this year.

If you have any questions or comments, please feel free to post them here or PM any of the Moderators.
 

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I'm a little confused by what you mean by 'gifts'. Are you talking about the "gifts" you give here in the forum, (tree, heart, bandaid etc) or actual presents sent to a person via the mail?
 

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Originally Posted by otto

I'm a little confused by what you mean by 'gifts'. Are you talking about the "gifts" you give here in the forum, (tree, heart, bandaid etc) or actual presents sent to a person via the mail?
actual physical that are mail
 

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IMO I don't care who gives who a gift "in person - for real". But the thank you should be private - why would you feel the need to announce to the public that someone gave you gift?

IMO that would be like going to a mall and making an announcement in the middle of a crowd that so in so gave you a gift.
 

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Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45

IMO I don't care who gives who a gift "in person - for real". But the thank you should be private - why would you feel the need to announce to the public that someone gave you gift?

IMO that would be like going to a mall and making an announcement in the middle of a crowd that so in so gave you a gift.
Thank yous for gifts between friends are to be private. It is when a gift is sent anonymously from someone on TCS to someone on TCS that a "thank you" thread is allowed.

...and when you've been depressed, felt alone, been fired, been ill, or any number of not-so-happy things, to know that someone cared enough to do something thoughtful is often something many people do want to share with others.


I know I always enjoy reading about random acts of kindness on this board.
 

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What about random acts of kindness that someone NOT on this board did? For example, someone you know personally did a really fantastic thing for you and you want to share what they did?
 

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Originally Posted by Catkiki

What about random acts of kindness that someone NOT on this board did? For example, someone you know personally did a really fantastic thing for you and you want to share what they did?
That's allowed of course. What we were trying to steer clear of are public thank you's from one member to another.
 

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I hope this isn't the end of SS! Based on the logic that some people have been feeling excluded and uncomfortable with public postings of thanks to individuals, I'm sure that some also feel excluded and uncomfortable with SS because it's public, it's thanking individuals....and not everyone can afford to participate even though they may want to.

When I was on disability and couldn't afford to participate I felt left out when SS came around. I saw all of the posts of people anxiously awaiting their gifts, and the pictures and people so happy and excited.

I felt very left out and sad. Some others here have felt the same way too about SS. In fact I know that for a fact because I've talked about it with some members. Because of that I've offered and have sent money to some so that they can participate and get in on the fun so that they wouldn't feel excluded.

There will always be someone feeling left out, no matter what the situation. Banning something fun that promotes a sense of kindness and well being to a forum won't change that.

It's a known fact that you can't please everyone. By banning people thanking each other, you are appeasing a few and taking away from a large percentage of people: The givee, the giver and those of us who enjoy reading the forums and seeing people post about random acts of kindness be it anonymous or not.

Am I advocating banning SS based on the logic that some people feel left out and excluded? No. But if you are going to create a rule that prevents people from posting thanks to individuals, perhaps a public gift exchange where people are bragging and talking about their gifts and giving public thanks to each other should be re-evaluated so that people who can't afford to participate in such activities do not feel left out and have it repeatedly shoved in their faces for 2 or 3 months or even more.

Yes, there are some who genuinely feel happy and live vicariously though others who have participated in SS. But there are also others that feel sad and excluded even though they don't publicly post that fact. Both of these situations hold true for random acts of kindness where individuals are thanked for something good that they did for someone.

Why ban giving public thanks to an individual through the year, and then allow it under a different circumstance? That doesn't make sense to me at all. Aren't those same people feeling left out now, going to still feel left out if they don't or can't afford to participate in SS when the time comes around again?
 

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The difference is that one is a gift giving once a year thing where one person sends and received one gift. The other is people sending gifts between friends and making those who couldn't afford to be part of SS wonder why they weren't considered special enough to receive a non-SS present.

If someone is going through a particularly rough time through the year, and someone sends them an anonymous present out of the kindness of their heart, then no - we don't want to stop that, and we don't want to tell the appreciative receiver they can't thank the person.

If you noticed that the same couple of people kept sending each other presents throughout the year and talking about it on the main boards, then people would definitely start feeling left out - that's what we don't want to happen. If it's a present between friends, then it should remain a private gift.
 

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Originally Posted by Natalie_ca

I hope this isn't the end of SS! Based on the logic that some people have been feeling excluded and uncomfortable with public postings of thanks to individuals, I'm sure that some also feel excluded and uncomfortable with SS because it's public, it's thanking individuals....and not everyone can afford to participate even though they may want to.

When I was on disability and couldn't afford to participate I felt left out when SS came around. I saw all of the posts of people anxiously awaiting their gifts, and the pictures and people so happy and excited.

I felt very left out and sad. Some others here have felt the same way too about SS. In fact I know that for a fact because I've talked about it with some members. Because of that I've offered and have sent money to some so that they can participate and get in on the fun so that they wouldn't feel excluded.

There will always be someone feeling left out, no matter what the situation. Banning something fun that promotes a sense of kindness and well being to a forum won't change that.

It's a known fact that you can't please everyone. By banning people thanking each other, you are appeasing a few and taking away from a large percentage of people: The givee, the giver and those of us who enjoy reading the forums and seeing people post about random acts of kindness be it anonymous or not.

Am I advocating banning SS based on the logic that some people feel left out and excluded? No. But if you are going to create a rule that prevents people from posting thanks to individuals, perhaps a public gift exchange where people are bragging and talking about their gifts and giving public thanks to each other should be re-evaluated so that people who can't afford to participate in such activities do not feel left out and have it repeatedly shoved in their faces for 2 or 3 months or even more.

Yes, there are some who genuinely feel happy and live vicariously though others who have participated in SS. But there are also others that feel sad and excluded even though they don't publicly post that fact. Both of these situations hold true for random acts of kindness where individuals are thanked for something good that they did for someone.

Why ban giving public thanks to an individual through the year, and then allow it under a different circumstance? That doesn't make sense to me at all. Aren't those same people feeling left out now, going to still feel left out if they don't or can't afford to participate in SS when the time comes around again?
The difference is that everyone has the opportunity to join in SS...if they do not participate for whatever reason, they did have the opportunity. I can completely understand if someone feels sad because they were financially unable to participate, but that member was not excluded.
 
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