6 Things I Learned from Our Ringworm Plague (book length....)

We saw a new vet one Wednesday. She's at a cat hospital. She went through ringworm at her house a year ago. I feel so much better with her on the case. She was empathetic and didn't rush me through my questions or dismiss my concerns. She said that Butter looks like a cat that is halfway through ringworm treatment. She said something about it being generalized rather than localized which is why his hair is falling out all over. We could knit kittens out of the hair that comes off of him when  we dip him. She did bloodwork and it all came back good so he will be taking fluconazole. It will be fish flavored-yum. I pick it up from a compounding pharmacy today.

I noticed that my little chihuahua mix has a couple of places where the hair is missing but one of them has been that way for at least a month. The other two I didn't notice before. I'm thinking that's just how she is but I never really paid attention. She has very sparse hair on her underside and the spots are within a quarter of an inch or less from her belly where she has absolutely no hair at all. She has always been really naked. I'm also hoping that since they are just little bald spots without any crusties or scaling or rash of any kind and the hair around them isn't brittle or broken that this is just her. She came to the rescue we foster for with a nasty skin condition. They determined it to be an allergy. We have had her for 2.5 years now and she has been fine but it's possible that she had permanent hair loss from the condition she was in. They are so small that I had to go searching for them. One is hairless but the other two are kind of more like thin hair than hairless. Also, she was treated with the lime sulfur for three weeks and hasn't had any contact with the cats since we found out about the ringworm. I'm either fooling myself into thinking she's ok or making myself crazy worrying about something that's not real.

So far all of us people are ringworm free. I sure hope it stays that way.

How is Shakti?

Hi, Cassie.
Shakti went back to the vet a week ago Friday. He took blood and the oral meds are NOT affecting her liver. He also took the Woods lamp and couldn't find any fluorescence anywhere. On Sunday, however, I saw that she was developing yet another lesion. So, instead of a week on, a week off, and a week on, we're doing ten days on, a week off, and another ten days on. When I take Shakti back on October 1, the vet will take her first post-baths and post-oral treatments hair culture of two. Wish us luck!

How is Butter doing on the oral meds?

I'm wishing you luck!

Butter ran out of his oral meds on Sunday. I'm going to call the vet today. I forgot to yesterday. I thought they were supposed to go for 30 days (he was on fluconazole). The new vet thought he looked good and took some samples a week ago tomorrow. She said to keep dipping him and giving him the oral meds but she thought that we would get negative tests back this time. So we wait. And treat. I'm still treating the other cat once a week.

I noticed another spot on my chihuahua where the hair seems sparse. She's been getting twice weekly dips as well. I'm going to continue them with her as long as I'm treating Butter. The other places where I noticed sparse hair haven't changed. There is no less hair there and no more hair. I think that's just the way she is. She does have really dry skin on her tummy which could be from the dips-when it gets on my hands they are super dry.

Our ringworm never flouresced. I wish it had because then we could monitor it that way.

The way this vet is doing the testing is to test one time and continue the treatment for the entire time we await the results (they allow it to run for 4 weeks). She said that we need to treat at least 3-4 weeks beyond the negative culture so IF it comes back negative then we will be done with treatment because we will already have treated 4 weeks past when the negative culture was taken. I may still continue baths for a few weeks. I feel as anxious towards the end of the treatment as I did when we first found out because I'm terrified I didn't clean well enough and we're going to have it crop back up again after we stop treating.

Interrupting the thread to let everyone know we've just published an entire guide about ringworm infestations, triggered and inspired by this very thread 

It's actually two guides and not just one! The first is the more general one - 

Ringworm in Cats

The second covers the ins and outs of the housecleaning aspects of Operation Ringworm -

Ringworm Infestation in Cats: The Housecleaning Regime

I'd like to take this opportunity to thank the person who started this epic thread - @Bunnelina  for all of her help in preparing the articles. Her comments were invaluable! 

when you say that Shakti was developing another lesion what do you mean? what is it you see that indicates a lesion?

Butter was looking amazing but had some thinness on the back of his neck and shoulders. today he had a nickel sized spot that was thin with short hair. there isn't a lesion per say, no red ring or patchy/flaky skin. Just a round spot with thin short hair. is that what you see when you see a new lesion?

It's actually nice to hear I'm not the only one going crazy to clean. How long do surfaces, etc need to be cleaned? I had found a kitten and although I had him isolated after his first dip some workers came into my house ignored me telling them to not go anywhere near him and had moved him and his stuff to another part of the house along with the fact that they went touching every corner of my house. I have cleaned what I can but there's only so much I can do considering I don't know every place they touched in my two story townhouse and I'm so paranoid my two dogs or someone in my family will catch (especially on the scalp as someone scared me saying they caught it on their scalp from their cat before). It has been 6 months since we've had him in our house as we had found a rescue to take him in two weeks after having him but I can't help but feel like the spores are everywhere in my house since he was only dipped once and I keep wanting to clean everything over and over again every single day and it's driving me insane :/ . I've read 12-18 months of cleaning. Is this true? I would ask my vet office but they have actually been rude to me since I I had brought a few stray kittens to be seen by them.

Hi frenchielatina, are you saying that you are still worried six months after the kitten left your house?  And that you've been cleaning all this time? You poor thing! Please read the two ringworm articles that Anne has posted links to, above (two posts ahead of yours) to learn more about ringworm and how to treat it and clean effectively. As long as you've done a good job of eliminating dust and fur around your house via one or two good, thorough cleanings (as described in the article), your house should be okay. If you've gone for six months without your animals or your family showing signs of ringworm, you can probably relax. If your worries are still "driving you insane," why not have your dogs cultured? It will take a few weeks for you to get the results from the lab.... but then you will have real information, and that should give you peace of mind.

When our kittens had ringworm, I "only" had to clean like a maniac for about two months, and they were not isolated anywhere in our small apartment. Isolating an animal who carries an airborne fungus doesn't always make sense — remember that ringworm is not like a virus or a germ (within the body, transmitted via body fluids), but much more like ragweed pollen — floating everywhere in the atmosphere.  It takes a high concentration and other "ideal" conditions for there to be an outbreak of lesions. I bet if it were going to happen in your house, you'd have seen signs by now. 

After those two months of intense cleaning, I still cleaned for another month, but it was down to a routine and a lot easier since I no longer felt the need to clean everything continually. At the end of our three-month "plague", we'd gotten three negative cultures on our infected kittens, and so we knew we were in the clear. I hope you decide to get the dogs cultured so you can relax!  Best of luck to you! 

So Butter had a culture four weeks ago that was negative. We should be in the clear, however, he developed a spot on his shoulders during that time that we had cultured and so far it's negative (it's only been 11 days though). The vet thought that was just an allergic reaction to fleas but he's never had an allergic reaction to fleas before and we've started flea treatments back up. So last Wednesday he developed a dime sized spot on his front leg (I happened to notice it then-not sure when it developed) that was just missing some fur. I called her and she thought it was probably still an allergic reaction. Today it's kind of like ashy scaly with a tiny black something. It's very subtley scaley. Like I had to look really hard to see if it was scaly or if it was actually just skin. Now he has another spot on his other leg that looks the way the other one did last week. I'm going to take him in. I'm going crazy with this. I hope it's just an allergy but he's never had any before. Any ideas?

I don't know what it looks like when it's just starting to form. There was no trauma to the skin and it looked completely normal. So I'm wondering, what happens first, the hair loss or the lesion. My biggest fear is that we think we're in the clear and then have to start all over.

Oh, CassieP3, I wish I knew what to say. I hope it isn't ringworm, and that your vet is right! Ringworm can present all sorts of ways. With our cats, we noticed a few odd, perfectly oval light gray spots on our kitten's white ear. She also had a couple of claws that looked weird, with nasty-looking reddish areas. Then our other kitten suddenly developed a wet-looking, ashy-black splotch of ringworm right across his nose. While ringworm can develop anywhere, it most often turns up on a cat's head or toes, if that's any comfort. And when you culture a spot that IS ringworm, the culture often can be read as positive pretty quickly, so 11 days of being negative is also a good sign. Keep us posted and hang in there! You've been so conscientious and sensible about handling your situation and you really, really deserve good news!

This spot started out as just a thin spot. It's not completely bare-even now-with a little dandruff. He's had dandruff since this started or maybe even before but I didn't notice? He had it when he was cultured 5 weeks ago-the one that was definitively negative. They took samples from several places but didn't do the toothbrush thing.

Our vet is out sick today. She's only in the office one day a week. I have to wait a week to talk to her. But this is the vet that has been following him and has taken great care of him and this is the one set up through the rescue group. I'm praying for it not to be ringworm and for my sanity to hold.

I was told by someone who has had cats with ringworm many times (she is in rescue) that they are very very very unlikely to get new spots while being treated twice a week with lime sulfur plus the oral fluconazole. It does seem like he would have broken out with new spots earlier if he was going to-before we started the oral meds rather than 9-10 weeks after we started lime sulfur baths and 3-4 weeks after we started oral meds.

*edited to change "ringworms" to "ringworm". I'm aware it's a fungus.

Hello all - I am new to this site and have never actually posted to a blog in my life! But I need some help and advice.

I adopted a kitten about 3 months ago, and started to get spots all over my body. We quickly realized the kitten was a carrier even though the kitten had no physical signs (but tested positive in a culture). My older cat (5 years old) started to get spots and it has spread quickly. I have been treating both cats for about 2 months with oral medication, following cleaning procedures, and lime and sulfur dips 1:16 dilution twice a week (and they have been separated in isolated rooms). I am finding little to no improvement on my older cat and have noticed that both of their coats are increasingly getting VERY dry, dandruffy, and shedding lots of hair. 

Question #1: Is it normal for the cat's coats to get this bad during treatment? Does it get worse like this before it gets better? I have been torn to switch to an anti-fungal shampoo but don't know if it is as effective. Or doing a 1:8 dilution.. but want to be as aggressive as possible. 

Question #2: I have a cone on both cats, as they were scratching and excessively cleaning which I wonder if that has made it worse as they are not able to groom? But I also don't want to brush them either as worried to spread spores! What to do! 

I need a light at the end of the tunnel!!! The kitten who had no visible signs, now has dry scaly skin around the base of his ears which I wonder if it's from the lime and sulfur dips and maybe not even ringworm signs? Am I doing more harm?

Please help me! Thank you so much!!

Hi Rosie T,

Oh, dear, this has been going on for a long time! I have a  few questions for you, since it's been a long time since you began treatment and you should be seeing results by now.

1. What oral medications are you using, and how long have you been using them?

2. Are you following the directions on the bottles of veterinary lime sulfur for diluting it?

3.  How often are you culturing and what are the results so far?

The lime sulfur is not supposed to be irritating but if your cats have been getting twice-weekly baths for many months, without any rinsing, they may have quite a buildup of the stuff on their fur and skin. You might consider a warm-water rinse to help remove some of it — they've had massive doses of the stuff by now and it should have done its job after all this time. When it dries on their fur it makes them dusty, dry, and yellowish. Even one dip can make cats a lot less contagious so don't worry about rinsing some of that stuff off after all this time. And then I hope you will remove their collars since they should have nothing to lick but their fur. I'm sure they'll be thrilled and they certainly don't need the added stress of wearing a collar.

Have you checked out the two new ringworm articles posted here on the site? You are probably a ringworm expert yourself after all this time, but it might be a good idea to check them out, just in case  you find some new info or tips. And please keep us posted!

Bunnelina

Hi Bunnelina, 

Thank you for your fast response!

Month One:

My first month of treatment consisted of anti-fungal shampoo 2%Miconazole 2%Chlorahexidine  (twice a week) and Tresaderm applied topically to my older cat's leasions. This did not help, and I switched vets who got me on track...

Month Two:

1. Oral medication -

Oscar (kitten) has been on Itraconazole for 3 weeks. Since switching vets, we have increased the dosage of the itraconazole to be more in-line with 10mg per kg (this higher dose has been for 1 week).

Izzy (older cat) has been on Tebinafine about 35mg per kg for almost 2 weeks. (She gets 3/4 of a 250mg tab).

2. The directions on the lime sulfur bottle says to mix 4oz per 1 gallon of water (1:8 dilution). I have doubled this based on recommendations and research (1:16). Where are the links to the ringworm articles? I'd love to read them. I have been doing lime sulfur dips for about 3 weeks.

3. I have only cultured once (the kitten) when we first were suspicious of the ringworm. He cultured positive for M. Canis. I have not cultured recently as Izzy (the older cat) still has significant hair loss and visual signs. I have been considering culturing Oscar (the kitten) but delayed as he seemed to be showing some signs of dryness around his ears. Part of my delay of re-culturing is cost (we have spent a small fortune treating the cats, right after we moved into our new house). I was thinking of waiting to re-culture until they visually seemed to be improved but maybe that is a mistake?

4. E-Collar - so I originally only used the collar after dipping, but found Izzy (older cat) was constantly cleaning her face and seemed to be causing the spread of the ringworm lesions. Maybe that is in my head? If I took the cone off now she would go crazy licking herself… and a lot of hair would fall out but maybe that isn't a bad thing? I just recently put  a cone on Oscar full time as he was scratching with his back leg at the dry skin around his ear and it seemed to be making it worse. But again maybe I should let them scratch? 

Thanks SOOO much for any advice I can't tell you how much I appreciate it!!!! 

Hi Rosie,

Here's the link to the Ringworm article, which is new: http://www.thecatsite.com/a/ringworm-in-cats

Within the article, you'll find a link to a second article about housecleaning. Please read both; the cleaning article has info about how to reduce the number of ringworm spores in your house that you may not find easily elsewhere on the web (unless you are using Dr. Moriello's treatment plan and it sounds like your vet does know about it).

It sounds like you've been treating the cats with the most effective baths and meds for about three weeks, which is good, but it will probably take awhile longer to get results. The lime sulfur does make them dry and dusty, since you don't usually rinse it off, but they shouldn't be suffering from it. If they are, talk to your vet. Maybe twice a week baths are too frequent. Maybe you can switch to weekly. The dilution sounds okay. I used the weaker solution on our four cats, too.

Culturing is the only way to know if your cats are ringworm-negative. They can look fine and have ringworm and they can look very awful and actually be clear and healing. You can't really tell visually — the culture is the way to go. If the culture doesn't turn positive sooner, the labs like to wait about three weeks before giving you a negative result. You are supposed to keep up the nasty old baths at least until you get your first negative result. And typically, vets like to see three negative cultures before the cat is considered cured. So the sooner you can get cracking on the cultures, the better. Ask your vet about the timing. Maybe you can start doing them after one more week of treatments. But if your cats are miserable, please talk to your vet about solving that, and persevere.... because those collars (and isolation —be sure to read about that in the article) are stressful and cats need all of their strength and resources to fight off the ringworm and heal. 

Best of luck to you... and I promise that you will get through this nightmare and it will fade to a memory!  Hang in there!

I know I went against all ringworm wisdom, but I never used lime sulfur dips on my cat.  I did use topical miconozole on him as his was limited to just his ears.  I was insane about cleaning the room where he was quarantined.  I found the compounded intraconazole was much easier to give him than the griseofulvin my vet started with.  My cat lost a lot of fur in the beginning, but less as time when by.  I had one of those grooming gloves I used on him to remove the loose hair and try to control the spread of the fungus on his hair follicles.  I really have no idea what finally worked, I just know we did a lot of cultures and the whole thing was crazy stressful.  You'll get through it.  It's just a miserable, exhausting, stressful thing.  Good luck to you.  Let me know if I can help. I am not the expert here since I didn't follow a lot of the recommendations, but I did get through it.

Hello, All -

I found this site (and thread) today via a search for ringworm information.  I picked up two Devon Rex kittens two weeks ago yesterday from a cattery in North Carolina.  I did a lot of online research about this breed before deciding on this cattery, and had been there three weeks previously to pick out kittens.  (I had wanted a small cat because I also have a Yorkie, and this breed only goes 7-9 lbs as adults.)  When I called to confirm a pickup time, the breeder told me that both kittens had small spots that could be ringworm.  They had apparently gotten ringworm in the cattery via a loaned cat from another cattery they had brought in for breeding. They did not do a culture, but had started twice-weekly baths with Chlorconazole shampoo.  They provided a bottle of the shampoo and told me to continue it for two weeks. They also told me to treat the small spots with a diluted bleach mixture (9 to 1), and said that after two weeks the kittens would be fine.  They said there had been no follow-on issues with other kittens they had sold.

I will admit I gave a lot of thought as to whether I should actually follow through and pick up the kittens.  I did a lot of reading about ringworm online, and everything I saw gave me pause.  Unfortunately, I didn't find this site until today.  Also unfortunately, my vet was out of town and the vet tech wasn't as helpful as I had hoped. Finally, a friend of mine consulted her vet, who advised there was no reason not to bring them home.  I should mention that one of the kittens was born on 20 July, and the other on 22 July, so they are coming up on four months old.

I picked them up on Saturday, 1 November, and did purchase a large dog cage to confine them in (the only thing I could get quickly), and did not let them run through the house I was at for the weekend.  I confined them to a bathroom, where I let them out to run around for a few hours each day. I had previously scheduled an appointment with my vet for the following Tuesday morning, and she immediately recommended doing a culture for each kitten.  She also told me to immediately discontinue using the diluted bleach mixture on them, and prescribed Tresaderm, but only wanted me to use it on one skin irritation that was rather red looking.  It was under one of the kitten's front legs, and I think it looked worse because of its location (sort of in the "armpit). After several days of 2x/day application, I could no longer find it.  As I write this, the other few spots they had have also completely disappeared (for several days now) and I haven't found any new ones. The irritations were also quite tiny, but spot is the best description that comes to mind, or tiny red/pink pimple maybe. The vet also said their little spots could be ringworm, or not - and might just be little skin irritations.  Given the way they wrestle with each other, I'm surprised they didn't have more of them.

My vet also recommended providing clean towels for their bedding every time I gave them a bath, and adding bleach to the laundry.  She also told me to clean their cage, etc., with a diluted bleach mixture. Her other recommendation was to use a change of clothes for when I am in with the kittens, with the same instructions for laundering. On bath days I thoroughly clean their cage, the floor, and hard surfaces with the diluted bleach. I do try to spend a few hours with them each day, usually one hour in the morning and a couple of hours in the evening.  I work all day, and they are caged overnight and during my work day.  The cage is quite large, and easily accommodates a place to sleep, the litter box, food and water, and a tower toy.  Coming from a cattery, they are thankfully used to being confined.  There isn't a peep from them all night. 

I live most of the time in a small (800 sq ft) condo, which has a sunroom with tile floor where I can keep their cage and let them out to run around a bit.  I couldn't remove all of the things in there (no other place to put them, but there are no rugs and nothing upholstered. I do leave the door open to the rest of the condo when they are caged because the room isn't heated or cooled, and I need to let the heat from the condo warm up the room - so far, so good on the weather for that this time of year.  The sun, of course, really does a nice job when it is out.

I apologize for the long post, but it is good to find a place where real people have been dealing with this problem.  Of course, I am at the stage of not knowing if the kittens have ringworm or not (thankfully no news is good news from the vet at this point, with this Tuesday marking the two week point for the cultures). I do not have any signs of ringworm on myself and, as I noted earlier, the kittens currently have no signs at this point.  I am very hopeful that the Tuesday before Thanksgiving will bring word of a negative culture -- and we can enjoy the holidays. This is certainly not the way I imagined bringing two kittens into my life and, after reading everything you folks have gone through, it is hard for me to imagine having to deal with it for several months if the culture comes back positive, especially given the nature of my job and the hours I work.  This is why I opted for kittens instead of another dog after losing my dog of 16 years in September, because I know they require a lesser level of care/training than puppies (or even an adult dog).  Never having had cats before, I find the whole litter box thing a miracle!

I learned a lot by reading through this thread, and now fear that perhaps I am not cleaning enough, but I can't provide an environment sterile enough/quarantined enough.  I am encouraged by reading about Bunnelina's experience in her small apartment. Honestly, though, if I had read all of this first, it might have convinced me not to proceed with getting the kittens.  I'm generally a believer in rising to the occasion and doing what you have to do to deal with any given situation, but will admit that this one scares me, particularly with the holidays coming up and needing to go back and forth to another house.  And, while the dog is currently with my husband in another location, it will be really hard to insulate her when here in this small condo.

Again, thank you for posting your experiences with ringworm.  This cat novice is trying not to be too paranoid given the verdict on whether my boys really have ringworm is still out.  I'm also very interested in anyone's experience with the chlorine dioxide products. I saw one reference to it and wonder if anyone else has tried it.

Thanks to all.

Dear Cat Novice,

Welcome to the Cat Site. I hope your kittens don't have ringworm, but in case they do, I strongly recommended reading the two articles about ringworm that were written by the person who runs this site, in consultation with me. So many people are dealing with ringworm, websites are full of misinformation, and our vets aren't always up to date on the most successful and safest treatments. So please read this:

http://www.thecatsite.com/a/ringworm-in-cats

There's a link in that article to the article about housecleaning, which does not emphasize bleach — it's so toxic, esp in the concentration required to kill ringworm. There are better, safer ways.

The two articles should tell you all you need to know, and if you have more questions, do come back here. Keep in mind that ringworm is an airborne fungus, so keeping the cats caged isn't doing much to keep the spores from floating around your house.... I'd recommend that you start cleaning your whole place, especially if you have been letting the kittens out. Cages can't contain spores...

Fingers crossed that it's something else and in the meantime, try not to panic and hang in there! There are many of us here who've been through it and come out the other side!

Bunnelina

Thanks Bunnelina! I really appreciated your advice. I took both cats today to the vet for a progress check, and did cultures. We'll see how the cultures turn out! They said I should remove the cone on Izzy (the cat that has been excessively grooming). So I will do that, but am still worried that she is shedding SO much hair. When I hold her I am covered with hair, and last night she threw up a hair ball - so I'm worried with the cone off she might get really bad hair balls! Any suggestions? I will try to brush her really good before I take the cone off, and they also mentioned giving her Vasoline to help with the hair balls which I might try.

Thanks again!!!!

-Rosie

Hi Rosie,

Yay, no collar!  You might try one of those gloves that is like a soft rubber brush for catching more of that flying hair. I can understand why you are worrying about it flying around, but I'm not sure there is a lot you can do. Keep in mind that the lime sulfur is supposed to make cats much less contagious. Even one dip should do a lot if the cat got really saturated to the skin... and it sure sounds like yours did.

I'm not a big fan of giving cats vaseline. It's petroleum jelly, a chemical by-product of the oil industry, and not something I feel cats should eat. If I were you, I'd brush away and try to find a more natural hairball remedy at a good pet store. I'd also take a good hard look at what you are feeding. I know this is off the subject, but I feel it's very important, especially when you're starting off with a new kitten. After years of feeding Hill's kibble and the usual grocery and big-name pet-store brands, I am now feeding my cats the best diet I can afford and manage, which is primarily canned food that are all grain-free, very low in carbs, 95% meat, and as pure in ingredients (no carrageenan, meal, etc.) as I can get. I also feed some frozen raw commercial food and would like to switch over to raw entirely (our tiny freezer makes it impossible). I never, ever feed dry food, having lost too many cats to kidney failure and so on. I did my homework on the subject, which was not easy, and I learned. Since I've been feeding my five youngsters mostly meat, I seem to have very healthy cats and very few hairballs or other issues, despite all five being medium-to-longhaired. Back when I didn't pay any attention to my cats' nutrition, my previous cats always seemed to be throwing up or having other issues and they didn't have such lovely coats. And they were overweight. (I thought this was normal and unfixable; it is not.) They all did live good, long lives, but they were also all chronically ill for many years... So I'm hoping a better diet will change that. Anyway, mine don't shed much and I think this is due to quality food — it certainly isn't because I spend much time on grooming! (I do brush their teeth every other night. And it's a pain!)

Sorry for the lecture but I am rather obsessed about cat food now that I no longer have to be so obsessed about ringworm.  I hope those cultures are negative! Remember that the labs will wait weeks to give you a negative result. The positives show up much faster.

Keep us posted!

I just wanted to pop back to let you know that Shakti was cleared as ringworm-free at the beginning of October. (Hurray!)
It was actually in June that the small lesions disappeared, and she had a huge patch across the shoulder blades that looked totally different and horribly inflamed. That was because it wasn't ringworm at all. As Shakti was less than four months old when I found the first lesion--and as it happens, when my vet spoke with the breeder's vet, it came out that Shakti had been treated already even before I got her--my kitten's immune system was greatly compromised. When that happens, staph germs, which are always present, can erupt in an infection. Unfortunately, that is when I finally gave in and allowed the vet to treat her with 34 doses of oral iconazole, the medicine my gut told me not to give Shakti. In the middle of that treatment, rounder, deeper lesions erupted all around Shakti's neck, with ugly, thick scabs. Finally, a dermatologist diagnosed these as granulomas from allergic dermatitis. Well, guess what? Shakti had developed an allergy to iconazole (remember she was on the topical form--miconazole--since February), which we continued throughout the dipping period. I believe it was the sulphur lime dips that did the trick, as far as the ringworm was concerned.

Famous last words--listen to your gut.

Thanks for all the wise advice here.

Much love and many blessings,

Eileen