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post #31 of 44
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Originally Posted by SamhainBorn View Post
As far as letting Prissy outside without supervision, that was my mother's doing, not mine.
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Originally Posted by the_food_lady View Post
It is rather amazing that one has a cat that's known for being at admitted high risk of getting run over by a car, who seems to have no knowledge or fear of rattlesnakes, has sustained such a horrific injury and resultant tail docking when it all could have been prevented. As pet owners we're not expected to know "everything" but a good pet owner will at least 'learn' from their mistakes.
I think that is a bit mean. I do not agree with having cats outdoors either BUT she said that it was her mother who decided, not her. If she is living in her mother's house, then she has no choice.
post #32 of 44
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I believe that the site specifically says No Flaming right below the "submit post" button. I am here for support, not to be judged. I think it's very sad that I am doing the best that I can, but still being criticized.

I do not abuse my animals. I do not starve them. I get them regular pet checks ups and all the medical care they need. All my pets are spayed and neutered. I do pet rescue AND TNR. They are kept up to date on shots. I feed them a good food. I keep them clean and monitor their health. I do not declaw. Are these not the hallmarks of a good owner?

I do not feel the same way as you do. These cats aren't human children. These are in part still wild animals. Hell, even human children aren't normally subjected to 24 hour containment. When a child is, there are usually calls made to the authorities about child neglect and abuse. Why should it be any different for animals? I live with my husband in a small apartment now. Are you truly saying it would be better to keep them enclosed in such a tiny space for their entire lives?

That being said. This is not the first time I have been attacked on this site. I do care for my furbabies. But I neither expect nor wish to be told that I am abusing, neglecting or intentionally hurting them, or allowing them to be hurt. You do the best by your pets, and I won't comment about how you're an over-protective snob who is limiting the experiences of your pet: I'll do the best by mine, and you can just leave me alone.

I am beginning to feel like I am not welcome on this forum, and that is fine. It will not bother me to take my questions and comments elsewhere.
post #33 of 44
SHB, I would like to apologize to you. I should not have used Prissy's accident in a comparison that implied it was your fault. That was not nice of me and I take it back. I agree that cats are safer indoors, but I also agree that it is nice for them to get fresh air and sunshine; that's why I take my cat out on a harness and leash. She even sometimes goes in the dog kennel for a little while, weather permitting. I can take her anywhere the dogs go, but ON leash. That way I don't risk losing her. I am the last person to humanize my animals, so I'm with you there; I don't think the other poster was either though. I still don't appreciate the implication that routine tail docking on docked dog breeds is cruel and I don't like being told that if I plan to dock that I should get a different breed; that's just not fair. However, everyone is entitled to their opinion too. That's what makes the world go 'round and keeps things interesting is our different viewpoints. But I do apologize for any flaming, even unintentional. I do think you should stay and I hope that Prissy is doing better now.
Allmycats and her five dock-tailed sporting dogs and one spoiled, loved, undeclawed (I might add) kitty!
post #34 of 44
Just thinking about the litter box - I wonder if it'd be worth getting a whole new box, putting it in a somewhat different location, and maybe trying either your same litter or Cat Attract? If by chance she does associate the old box with some discomfort?
post #35 of 44
My little Larry who also has a nub sends his wishes for a speedy recovery! He looked exactly like little Prissy does now. And no, he doesn't miss his tail at all. I remember thinking that I didn't want to look at it and that I would never get used to it. Now it's just a normal part of Larry. He always will be adorable with or without a full tail! I don't recall him having phantom pains though...

Little Larry was born outside with a crooked tail. He stays inside permanently now. He was inside when he got hurt. Best guess is that he always walks literally right behind you when he is following you around and we think he got it closed in a door. My mother was staying with us at the time and she can't hear too well... we think she didn't even know it happened.

You've just got to take care of your pets as best as you can.
Whether inside or outside, these things happen. I have a former feral that I try to keep inside, but he still manages to get out quite alot. It makes me worry, but this is what he is used to. He spent over a year outside before we finally got him to come inside at night. It's my opinion that he will never change and I accept that.

Anyway, the gang and I are sending get well wishes to little Prissy! Feel better soon!
post #36 of 44
Awwww poor Prissy!

Sending vibes for fast healing!

post #37 of 44
I hope you did not take my post the wrong way. Personally, I think cats should be indoors. But I do not look down at people who have indoor/outdoor cats because I understand why someone would feel the need to let there cats have some freedom. My cats do get to enjoy the outdoors supervised on a harness (the ones that actually LIKE going out, I have 3 that are terrified of outside). It's just one of those things that is personal preference. I just can't do it because I would be worrying the whole time that my cats were gone. I am a worry wart, lol.

Please don't leave, you are just as entitled to your opinions as anyone else here. I hate that so much bashing goes on, but I guess it is going to happen with so many different members who have different opinions.

Back to the OP, how is Miss Prissy doing? Shouldn't her stitches be coming out soon?
post #38 of 44
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Originally Posted by SamhainBorn View Post
I do not intend to start and argument or debate or speak ill of the decisions of others.

However.

should find another dog.

. As I've stated in another post, I will not have indoor only pets. Sure, they may be safer inside and live longer lives, but how much of our own lives would we enjoy if all we did was stay inside one building our entire lives? How much of a life would it be if we never ventured out, even if we lived to be 150, even 200 years old? I take all the precautions I can, but I refuse to be condemned for doing the best I can and caring for my animals.
I respect your choices, but I disagree with your argument. Cats aren't humans. Cats are domesticated animals and if they are given the proper attention and stimulation can be quite happy and adjusted as inside cats.

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Originally Posted by KatKisses View Post
I hope you did not take my post the wrong way. Personally, I think cats should be indoors. But I do not look down at people who have indoor/outdoor cats because I understand why someone would feel the need to let there cats have some freedom. My cats do get to enjoy the outdoors supervised on a harness (the ones that actually LIKE going out, I have 3 that are terrified of outside). It's just one of those things that is personal preference. I just can't do it because I would be worrying the whole time that my cats were gone. I am a worry wart, lol.

Please don't leave, you are just as entitled to your opinions as anyone else here. I hate that so much bashing goes on, but I guess it is going to happen with so many different members who have different opinions.
Very well said. But believe me, the discussion going on here is not bashing. This forum is like being licked by kittens compared to other forums. I'm not complaining. It's refreshing to come here where people are not constantly at each other's throats and being as rude as they can be. But disagreement and having strong opinions is not bashing, it's the way of the world.

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Back to the OP, how is Miss Prissy doing? Shouldn't her stitches be coming out soon?
Yes, that's really why I was coming in to this thread. Just kind of stumbled into the other indoor/outdoor discussion
post #39 of 44
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Yes, you're right, Prissy's stitches are out. Mostly. The original vet and the local vet both told me I could take them out myself if there was no infection and if they didn't get grown over. I had DH hold her and pet her while I clipped the stitches and pulled them through. (She took one out on her own yesterday, so I figured I wouldn't wait until Monday and the vet's like I'd planned.) I got two stitches out without any problems. They came out perfectly clean, no tugging or catching or tearing. The last stitch we may wait until monday and the vet's though. Prissy doesn't like to be held, so I couldn't get the last one before she lost patience and wanted down. I don't think it's grown over, but the knot is very close to the skin, and she doesn't sit still very well. I'm going to try again later. :-) If it looks like it's going to be too difficult, or cause her any pain, then I'll just wait for the vet to do it Monday.

As far as phantom pains go, I think it may have just been habit. Now that she's had more time to adjust, I don't catch her grooming air anymore. I think it only happens when she forgets she doesn't have a tail there anymore. Since she didn't have much feeling at all before the amputation, I think that makes the idea of phantom feelings less, but also makes it harder for her to realize there's not a tail there, since she was used to not feeling it before.

thank you all for your well-wishing. I know she's appreciated the extra love. And I apologize for being so over-sensitive. But this was a difficult experience for me, and between feelings of guilt and worry for my little girl, even the gentlest words feel like a harsh reprimand and judgment.

ANd Darlili, I am considering the new litterbox idea. I don't have any other place to put one, but I can get a new box. She seems to be using it better now than before, but she still prefers to be outside to use the bathroom, unless it's too dark or too cold.
post #40 of 44
I am so glad that Prissi is on the mend, my friend Kim has 2 cats that have had to be detailed due to medical reasons and they are both just fine. xx
post #41 of 44
I am glad that she is healing so well. I hope the vet visit goes well!
post #42 of 44
Thread Starter 
There's still one stitch in. The others have either come out on their own or with assistance (mine, or Prissy's) Maybe i can get her dosed with some catnip and get that last one out tonight. :-)
post #43 of 44
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Originally Posted by SamhainBorn View Post
There's still one stitch in. The others have either come out on their own or with assistance (mine, or Prissy's) Maybe i can get her dosed with some catnip and get that last one out tonight. :-)
I wonder if you noticed my apology above....I do hope you accept it. Thank you.
post #44 of 44
LoL, so I am not the only one that 'nips their cat so that they cooperate!
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