Security - Full Body Scans - Page 2

To be honest, I have flown into the US with open tickets and had less hassle with security clearances than when I had a return also so the extra security screening is not a given.

No, it is not a given... All I am saying is that the only thing that ever gave me extra security checks were open tickets; nothing else.

A lot of things are not a given....
Wanna know a scary example of that? My key chain is a pepper spray. I can not even begin to tell you how many times I forgot to leave that behind and it made through security. Back and forth all over the country... And yes, well after September 11, on the main cabin, hand luggage.

Another example: I worked on the Beauty Industry - Once some of my product samples, a foot rasp had a razor blade in it - same thing... Right through security. I even TOLD TSA I had it, and if they wanted I could leave it behind, as my meeting was over anyways... "Nope, not a problem"...

During my travels I saw a LOT of mistakes being done. Not a few, a LOT.

Just one more reason for me NOT to fly.... since 2001 I have been given a plethora of them and I did NOT like to fly prior to then

It bothers me that someone in a room in the back is looking at everyone naked...I don't think it's necessary. In Europe they always have women doing the scanner searches to women and men to men while in the US they don't even have it gendered like that..people are just tolerating being violated for the sake of security, I am not really okay with that.
As far as radiation, I'm not too paranoid about that, mutagens are everywhere, we all get exposure some more than others but you can't avoid it.

hit the nail on the head there, ive heard some people worry about child and normal pornography as its a 3D pic of the person, ok so you cant make out the face or anything but it only takes someone to download it and well who knows what

in princible they are a great idea but in real life i find it well degrading to a certain extent

Oh really?
Three words:
"My Pet Goat"
And that my friend, was September 11...

Great comeback. Excellent debating skills.

I totally understand. There really is no defense.

Learned from the best - you.

IMO, the above means next to nothing. "Many" people?
This terrorist is from an affluent family, you can bet he had credit cards and good credit cards that would not be considered "fraudulent."
But nice of NPR to try and minimize the red flags that were ignored.

Oh, I don't think you can find to many posts of mine like that, if any.
So, do you care to debate anything from my analysis in my previous post?

Of those, #4 and #5 are the only really egregious ones (that said, they should have been enough if people were paying attention). I've done #1 and #3, and would do #2 if I lived in a country where more things were done with cash, though since I usually buy tickets online it probably wouldn't be convenient.

ckblv, Bless your heart... I should have explained myself better... But I didn't think I needed to make my post that long, just for the sake of it... especially in this case, where we were bombarded with this image and its consequences for so many years... But since it seems that you need better explanation, let me start;
Sorry, see, I just like going straight to the point...

You are ridiculing and blaming Obama's Administration for something he has no blame. You are basically saying he is not working on security, and had no response to the threats, and his response to the attack was ridiculous (attack that luckily, but yet killed nobody). And then you list the attack to 13 people.
So, I am coming back you you with the pathetic response of your brilliant president to the attack that actually killed over 3,000 in American Soil.

Now, security was also advised of that attack - over and over and over again. Actually, the information got to the president, didn't it?

And that attack KILLED over 3,000 in America, and as result of it we are still in war, the economy has gone to sh*tter, and thousands and thousands of Americans have lost their lives in wars in response to that... plus in a unnecessary war in Iraq.
So, please, how can you even start telling me that things are worst now?
His brilliant response?
Read "My Pet Goat" upside down to kids at school
Now THAT is a President we can trust!

Now, ckblv, that is all I have to say... have a blast going over it.

You have flown overseas with no checked luggage?
And he didn't live in a country where "more things were done with cash." He just flew through there.

People can say the five things I listed weren't red flag but they were, when all put together.

I said during the campaign last year that National Security was my #1 thing against Barack Obama. He underestimates the extremist Islamic jihadists big time in my opinion.

Oh, I get it, you are one of the people that believe that Bush, upon hearing that ONE plane had hit the WTC, with no inkling, at that time that it was the work of terrorists, should have gotten up and ran out of the room full of school kids screaming, "We are under attack".

I got it now.

Upside down? I don't think so, but if that makes you feel you have made a valid point, you go for it.

So, I wonder just how long all things will be Bush's fault rather than the Current President of the United States.

And sorry, but Barack's initial reaction to this attempted, terrorist attack, which he made 3 or 4 days AFTER it happens WAS, "This was the work of a lone etremist.

And I notice you don't debate what just happened but go back to 9-11. Why am I not surprised?

One, last question, just what IS Barack's fault? What IS he responsible for?

ai ai.... it is just that IMO it is not worth it debating with some people... But you asked for an explanation, and I thought you deserved the benefit of one - so there it is. However I am not be going over and over and over like a broken record...
But yes, That was my post, as I said, have fun with it

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_obama_airline_security

"Difficult" for Barack but so simple for President Bush.

I guess Barack does not agree with you Carolinalima, that the attempted terrorist attack was "not his fault". Barack has, FINALLY, at long last, took some responsibility. To tell you the truth I am impressed, it is a small step and I'm sure it was VERY hard for him to do but it is a step in the right direction.

Overseas...I'm trying to remember one way or the other, about the second UK trip...I remember hating having so much to carry around the first time, and the amount of stuff I took (it was a week and a half trip and I planned on doing laundry at the halfway point, so, not a ton of clothes) could have fit in a backpack and laptop case. I loathe the baggage claim and consider it a matter of traveler pride to avoid it so it's possible I went without a duffel. In fact, I think I did, because I realized at the last moment that I needed to cram my purse (acquired there) into my laptop case because I was over on personal items...if I'd been checking baggage, I would've only had the laptop case and purse, so I would've called the laptop case my carryon.

With the airlines charging for checked baggage these days, it's getting to the point where even if it's a longer trip where you need more clothes than you can fit in a carry-on, you're better off taking only underclothes and going to a thrift store for the rest when you get there anyway.
I can see how you get that from that, but the list created by patterns of secondary things could become so long that it wouldn't be possible to screen them all in a reasonable amount of time, and in this case, we could've gotten the same improvement to the outcome by paying attention to the single data point of whose own father tried to turn him in.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100113/...ttack_congress

So, Congress gots its' "first, behind-the-scenes look" at the attempted, Christmas Day, terrorist attack and officials are saying the security failures were even "worse" than what Barack told us last week.

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