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post #1 of 23
Thread Starter 
Wow, where to begin. I recently adopted a cat from the shelter I volunteer for. I am calling him a rescue because he was from a hoarder situation. There were about 13 or so cats living in 3 years worth of garbage trapped and brought to the shelter. Of those cats, the one I rescued is the only one that was tame enough to handle. He is now neutered, vaccinated and chipped.
I adopted him on the 10th of this month, and then had to go out of town on the 12th. I boarded him with my other cat for the time I was gone. In that short time he bit 2 of the kennel help, and managed to severely harm one of the techs putting multiple puncture wounds on her shoulder and neck. When I called to check in on them, I was told everything was fine. There was never a mention of him harming anyone. When I picked both cats up today I was given the rundown on what happened.
Now, why on earth they would try to handle a frightened rescue multiple times was beyond me. However, when I brought him home today he gave me a bit of a scare. I have an area set up in my laundry room that is private for him while he adjusts to his new quarters. I went in and fed him, and he solicited petting. As I was petting him he turned and put a nice puncture wound in my hand. The bite was inhibited as he didn't sink his tooth all the way into my skin. It is painful though, and I will have to go get a tetanus shot tomorrow. It wasn't a cute little "love nip" like my other cat gives. His pupils dilated so I am guessing it was fear? Maybe pain?
I have never taken in an unsocialized, semi-wild cat. I am a foster home for Doberman rescue and have dealt with many dog behavior issues, but really have no idea how to train a cat. How can I approach this guy without fear of being bitten? My reaction was to screech quite loudly when he bit me and stop petting him. That's what I would do if a *puppy* bit me. Not so sure if he understood though.
Umm... Help?
post #2 of 23
Welcome to TCS & thank you for rescuing a hoarder kitty!

From what I've seen at the shelter here, hoarder cats often take more time to adjust than your "average" kitty.

He hasn't been with you long - and has been through *many* changes since his arrival. He's still scared, unsure of things - or probably a bit defensive from the sounds of it.

Have you tried Feliway or Rescue Rememdy? I'd honestly give him a quiet place for awhile, in a few months he should settle down - but given what he's lived through, I'd probably bite people, too.
post #3 of 23
Mazy cat was an unsocialized biter when she came to me. Sent me to the ER a few times. (You may need antibitoics, and don't be surprised if the dept of health gets involved once you anounce you've got a cat bite.)

It took a long time for me to be able to handle her at all. And hands coming at her was definitely something I avoided.

I would limit the petting for now. One stroke, if he asks for some lovings, for starters.

I agree with the feliway plug ins.

Welcome, and please do keep us updated!
post #4 of 23
Thread Starter 
Where do I go about purchasing this Feliway? Thank you for the quick responses. Here is a picture of Boomer the day I brought him home.

post #5 of 23
You can order Feliway online - many people like to order from Amazon.com - I can find it at my vet, or Petco (it's $$ in Petco, IMO).
post #6 of 23
Thread Starter 
Thank you. I will see if I can at least get some of the spay from a Petco or Petsmart, and order the plug in online.
Poor Boomer. He really wants to trust, I can just see it in his eyes. I will be more respectful of his boundaries even if he solicits attention. It's my fault for getting bitten. I was just SO HAPPY that he came to me.
Ironic that he has his canines but is missing all of his incisors from malnutrition. His front legs are a bit bowed as well. He has been eating Orijin for the short time I have had him. Seems like he can't get enough food and just inhales it. He is still very, very thin. I hope there are no underlying heath issues causing it.
I am a sucker for a hard luck case.
post #7 of 23
Hi there!!!
Cheapest place to get feliway is Amazon... Here are the links for you - they are anywhere from 40-60% below store prices, plus the shipping is free or very little, like $2.50...
Plugin
Refill
Spray
3-pack Refill

What a beautiful kitty!!! Wow! Lucky was shy when she came home, and Hope was a stray, little feral kitty... Little complicated, but they were not bitters... By the way, if you have a bitter, scratcher at home, a great thing to have is Colloidal silver I put enough in a piece of cotton large enough to cover the wound and then put a bandage over it. I never had an wound get infected treated with colloidal silver, not even cat scratches or bites. I also use it on the kitties, on their scratches/injuries.
Kitties like this take a lot of patience, but it is sooooo rewarding when they start responding - and they do!
One way to get their trust is to spend a lot of time with them, but not interact with them... Sit down in the room, and just read out loud... Stay there, as much as you can... Don't reach to him - let him come to you.
Do not stare at him... When you look at him, blink several times, just keep blinking - yawning is good too ... turn your face, just don't look straight at his eyes...
Instead of petting him with your hands, get a little wand toy and pet the sides of his cheeks with it.
Keep going there and spending as much time in the room as you can with him.
Get a sweaty, used shirt of yours, fold it and put it underneath his food dish.
What you are doing is making yourself "available" in case he wants pets... You are giving him the chance to trust you - it is very important to no impose yourself into him, but let him come to you on his own terms.
So, just make yourself available, and let him know that you are not a threat - he will come to you... And when they do, there is nothing more rewarding in the World!!

Good luck!
post #8 of 23
The best price, fastest shiping, for feliway plug in diffusers is entirelypets.com: $22.99 for a plug in and a 48 oz. bottle.

google "entirelypets.com coupon" for a coupon code to save 5% or free shipping.

Amazon.com does have several stores where it is slightly cheaper, but I ran into so many shipping issues (would not ship feliway to my PO box, quoted shipping times in excess of 2 weeks) I went to entirelypets.com. The order comes in three days or less, right to my PO box.

I don't know whether the spray will help or not, I've heard mixed reactions.

Rescue Remedy added to his food or water may be a better immediate option while you wait for the feliway diffuser to come.
post #9 of 23
All I have to say is he is a beautiful cat!
post #10 of 23
Thread Starter 
Doesn't rescue remedy have alcohol in it? I know our heath food store carries it, so will check it out.
He is quite beautiful. I have been working at the shelter for a while and was waiting for a Siamese or some sort of color point short hair to come in. We had a Siamese from the time I was 9, until I was about 24-25. She was the most loud, in your face kitty I have ever owned. I fell in love with that temperament. Hoping that Boomer will come around and be full of himself. If not, he is what he is and I will love him no matter what.
post #11 of 23
EntirelyPets is having an end of the year sale going on right now. Save 10% off all orders with the coupon code NEWSTAR. I buy my Feliway from them and it's always the best deal. They usually have free shipping on orders over $100 so look around and find more things you "need".

Here's the link to the Feliway page: http://entirelypets.ecomm-search.com...liway+diffuser

I would say take it slow and easy with him. You might want to go into the room with him and sit on the floor and read to him, play with him using a wand toy or feather toy, talk softly to him. Play some soothing classical or instrumental music for him and provide him a "safe place" that's nice and dark with easy access and lots of comfy warm bedding.

He might have bitten you from being overstimulated. I have a cat that does that and it's not fun. Don't get mad at him when he bites or yell. Continue to talk in soothing tones and take care of the bite.

Welcome to TCS and keep us posted on how he's doing! You might also want to check out the feral forum for more tips and ideas.
post #12 of 23
You're already gotten great advice, so I don't have much to add. I will just say the first thing that occurred to me was that as he "solicited" the attention, that the problem is overstimulation, which he doesn't yet know how to express appropriately.

I say if he solicits attention, give him one stroke and tell him what a good kitty he is. Over time, increase it to two, then three.... maybe bump it up every week or two.

All of our cats are feral rescues, and none of the them could "take" much petting at the beginning. One of our boys could stand exactly one pet (but he let us know it was enough by putting his paw on our hand) for quite some time. Seven years later, he can be petted seemingly forever, and he LOVES being brushed.

I do disagree with Stephanie on what to do when he bites (if it ever happens again). I agree with not getting mad at him - but I think kinda yelling "OUCH" lets them know what we're feeling.

You're a love for adopting this beautiful boy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
post #13 of 23
Thread Starter 
I didn't get mad at him. It's not his fault, he is a cat. Animals can only communicate with the resources they have. It's not like he can verbally say "I've had enough!" LOL
As I said in a previous post I am a foster home for Doberman rescue and have dealt with many "broken" dogs. I know animals are animals and not "furbabies" (pet peeve of mine). I am just NOT savvy with cat behavioral issues. I can learn though and am a quick study
Thank you again for the advice. Boomer will come around, I just have to be patient.
post #14 of 23
Rescue Remedy has a "for pets" version which does not contain alcohol.
post #15 of 23
My Fiona came from a hording situation. She was allowed outside though so she had some psychological outlet. She was very sick with URI and even though she was very sociable I was warned she was a biter. I could get one little pet in and then she would bite me. Even though she liked to rub against me she had a limit to how much I could touch her. I learned to let her rub a little, than I would pet once or twice, than walk away.

Play was very important to her. I could see it relieve her stress greatly. Wand toys, balls. She loved to jump and run. I would eat with her because if I didn't stand there she wouldn't eat, she wouldn't let me out of her sight. I always talked to her, sang, did the whole eye blinking thing and I could see it mellow her.

It took time. She will still occasionally bite me if I pet her for too long when she is wound up, she is still what I call "high strung". But she will lay beside me and let me rub her belly what a difference!

So, long story short, my advice is PLAY, loving calm talk or singing, do the eye blinking and yawning technique, give him space to come to you, good nutrition, feliway plug-in, AND TIME.

He may always be a biter but you give yourself a good chance of seeing what he is really like underneath all his trauma if you do what people habe advised and give it time. It will be amazing to see how he changes under your TLC.

BTW: GORGEOUS CAT!
post #16 of 23
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Originally Posted by otto View Post
The best price, fastest shiping, for feliway plug in diffusers is entirelypets.com: $22.99 for a plug in and a 48 oz. bottle.

google "entirelypets.com coupon" for a coupon code to save 5% or free shipping.

Amazon.com does have several stores where it is slightly cheaper, but I ran into so many shipping issues (would not ship feliway to my PO box, quoted shipping times in excess of 2 weeks) I went to entirelypets.com. The order comes in three days or less, right to my PO box.

I don't know whether the spray will help or not, I've heard mixed reactions.

Rescue Remedy added to his food or water may be a better immediate option while you wait for the feliway diffuser to come.
Sorry - gotta say, amazon is still cheaper right now... and I also have to say, I buy pretty much everything from them, and have been doing for many MANY years - never had a problem. Yes, they tend to quote a long shipping time, but it doesn't take that long to get here - At all.
Even when I buy from entirelypets I buy through Amazon due to cheaper prices - just did that, and just got my order yesterday... even during Christmas had no problem. Not from their own store, or affiliated stores (such as Entirelypets).
post #17 of 23
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Originally Posted by carolinalima View Post
I never had an wound get infected treated with colloidal silver, not even cat scratches or bites. I also use it on the kitties, on their scratches/injuries.
You've been very lucky. Surface treating a puncture wound does little good (information from doctor who treated my bite and from vet treating bite wounds on cats). The actual bacteria gets sealed into the wound - with the skin trying to heal fairly quickly.
If anyone needs a visual display of how this happens, make up some jello. Take a toothpick and dip it into some chocolate sauce (or something else that will show up) then poke it into the jello and pull it right back out. You'll see the chocolate inside the jello and the surface of it close back over.

To the OP: You don't have to worry about tetanus as much as you do pasteurella. If the bite doesn't get infected, it's pure luck as most bites do even with antibiotic treatment. I strongly suggest you do see a doctor as an infected bite on your hand could cause you to lose fingers or even your hand - the closer to any joints or bones the bite is, the worse it can be due to infection being able to spread into bones.


I have a former stray that was a biter. She'll still rarely nip me. With her it was over stimulation and just her not knowing any better. Because she really did want pettings she learned not to bite because every time she did I would stop petting her and would immediately leave the room she was in or put her down (mostly because if she was over stimulated enough she would lean over and bite my arm. ) I'm very lucky that she has little girl cat teeth and never bit hard enough to break any skin.
I have another former stray that was a tom for 2-3 years. He as a lot of places he does not like being touched, and though he doesn't bite if you touch those spots, he gets that look on his face that says he wants to. He's came close before, but does stop himself.
Your kitty, having been a tom for a while, could be the same way. Learn what places to avoid. Most cats are ok with head petting and shoulder scratches - avoid the butt and tail. On a cat that isn't use to it, legs and feet tend to be off limits as well. If you don't do chin scratches right it can even elicit a bite - mostly because some cats will think you're trying to grab their neck (in kittens it can be an instant invitation to rough play).

Might I suggest that if you have to leave home again that you try to find a good pet sitter with lots of cat experience - and understands he's a hands off kitty?
post #18 of 23
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Originally Posted by strange_wings View Post
You've been very lucky. Surface treating a puncture wound does little good (information from doctor who treated my bite and from vet treating bite wounds on cats). The actual bacteria gets sealed into the wound - with the skin trying to heal fairly quickly.
If anyone needs a visual display of how this happens, make up some jello. Take a toothpick and dip it into some chocolate sauce (or something else that will show up) then poke it into the jello and pull it right back out. You'll see the chocolate inside the jello and the surface of it close back over.
I guess I have.... I have been bitten throughout my life numerous times, still have all my limbs... never lost a finger... As an adult, I have been treating my kitty accidents with Colloidal Silver, and it has been working.
Note: I AM NOT ADVISING ANYBODY TO DO THE SAME. BY ALL MEANS GO TO THE DOCTOR.
I won't, unless a wound gets infected, but that is only ME.
post #19 of 23
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Originally Posted by carolinalima View Post
I guess I have.... I have been bitten throughout my life numerous times, still have all my limbs... never lost a finger... As an adult, I have been treating my kitty accidents with Colloidal Silver, and it has been working.
Note: I AM NOT ADVISING ANYBODY TO DO THE SAME. BY ALL MEANS GO TO THE DOCTOR.
I won't, unless a wound gets infected, but that is only ME.
A bite gets infected within hours. I know you're not employed atm, but if you get bit when you have insurance in the future, please please get to a doctor. I got bit one day around 1pm, by that night I was in a lot of pain from the swelling the infection caused. It left my hand and most of my arm very bruised! I know if I hadn't already started an antibiotic that the infection would have been much worse.

My step sister had the same thing happen to her a little over a year ago. Little bite to her finger, she washed it up and put ointment on it. By the next morning her hand was swollen, they had to cut all of her rings off, and she ended up admitted for a couple of days. She had to have a surgeon check her hand - he said it was a near miss, if she had waited any longer she would have had to have surgery on her hand, possibly losing the finger bitten.

Scratches, on the other hand, I always suggest that one puts some sort of ointment on them. Those back claws can really shred and leave some nasty scars - an antibiotic ointment can heal them faster and reduce scarring. (and if there's a pain reliever in the ointment it helps)
post #20 of 23
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Originally Posted by strange_wings View Post
A bite gets infected within hours. I know you're not employed atm, but if you get bit when you have insurance in the future, please please get to a doctor. I got bit one day around 1pm, by that night I was in a lot of pain from the swelling the infection caused. It left my hand and most of my arm very bruised! I know if I hadn't already started an antibiotic that the infection would have been much worse.

My step sister had the same thing happen to her a little over a year ago. Little bite to her finger, she washed it up and put ointment on it. By the next morning her hand was swollen, they had to cut all of her rings off, and she ended up admitted for a couple of days. She had to have a surgeon check her hand - he said it was a near miss, if she had waited any longer she would have had to have surgery on her hand, possibly losing the finger bitten.

Scratches, on the other hand, I always suggest that one puts some sort of ointment on them. Those back claws can really shred and leave some nasty scars - an antibiotic ointment can heal them faster and reduce scarring. (and if there's a pain reliever in the ointment it helps)
Oh don't worry, if I feel something like that, of course I will to the doctor. If it starts swelling, I will go... I won't play around with it... But I never had a problem, and won't go if I don't have a problem. Again, colloidal silver has been great for me. I don't just put on the top either.. I open the wound, and put inside... keep a wet cotton with CS in there... Has worked for me. But don't worry, I won't be with an infected wound in the house - if I notice there is something wrong, AT ALL, I will run to the doctor, but it has never happened, and hopefully never will...
post #21 of 23
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I have already been to the doctor today and started on antibiotics. It is indeed infected and painful. I tried soaking my hand in rubbing alcohol after it happened but it didn't really seem to help.
Next time I will try to find someone to pet sit. I am sure one of the girls that works at the shelter with me would be more than happy to do it for less than the cost of boarding.
When we leave all the dogs come with, and I have always boarded the cats. My previous companion to Chloe, Bella, was not a special needs cat. Bella is 16 and long story short my mom has Alzheimer's and loves Bell. My dad is 10 years younger than mom and healthy, so after some discussion we decided that Bella had a higher purpose to serve and is now my mother's constant companion. Oh God, she's so fat now... mom forgets she fed her and will feed her over again.
I digress though. I had room for another cat after mom and dad took Bella and was waiting for the "right" cat. Boomer probably would have been put down had I not chosen him. I am a sucker for an underdog since I have seen how my fosters (Dobes) can turn around.
I will post an introduction and background if I can find the "Newbie" section.
post #22 of 23
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Originally Posted by BoomerKitty View Post
I have already been to the doctor today and started on antibiotics. It is indeed infected and painful. I tried soaking my hand in rubbing alcohol after it happened but it didn't really seem to help.
That's good to hear. Did the doctor or a nurse mention soaking it in warm water and epsom salt? I was told to do that and it did help the pain a little. NSAIDs (aleve and ibuprofen) can help with the swelling if you can take them.
Look forward to at least a week or two of this.

I hope you heal up well. Boomer will just take time. I suggest you read as much information as you can about feral cats. While he's not feral, there's a lot of good socializing tips to be found. If you can find her around, hissy is a good person to ask.
post #23 of 23
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Originally Posted by BoomerKitty View Post
I have already been to the doctor today and started on antibiotics. It is indeed infected and painful. I tried soaking my hand in rubbing alcohol after it happened but it didn't really seem to help.
Try soaking your hand in some warm water with Epsom Salt in it. The Epsom Salt will draw out the infection and the warm water will soothe your hand.
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