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Tuxedo cats?

post #1 of 48
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My aunt asked me if Marshmallow was a tuxedo cat. Well, he is black and white, but he looks rather more like a cow kitten than a cat wearing a little suit. I wish I could post pictures of him, but you know how hopeless I am with the pictures. I thought all black and white cats were tuxedo cats, but my aunt says no. Is she right? (Darn, I hate it when she's right!)
post #2 of 48
Not all black and white cats are tuxedo.
My Cleo is a bi-color.
post #3 of 48
Here is my Felix, he is a classic tuxedo cat:
post #4 of 48
I've heard tuxedos are mostly black with white paws/legs, bellies, chests, and possible markings on face. I've always called my Swanie a Tuxie, because he fits that definition.
post #5 of 48
And for comparison to the above tuxedo, below is Molly a bi-color.



post #6 of 48
Thread Starter 
Marshmallow is more like Molly, except he has more black than white. Thank you all for your help. My brother and his wife have promised to take pictures and post them for me when my SS present arrives. Maybe I can coax them into taking some cat pictures as well, since I've never been able to post pictures of Siamie, Daisy, or Marshmallow.
post #7 of 48
I really dislike the term "tuxedo" cats. The PROPER name for cats with white and another solid color is BICOLOR. No matter what percent of color and white there is.

The only one that the show cat fancy uses that is an exception to Bicolor is "Van" - where 90% of the cat is white and the color is on the head and tail. Otherwise they ALL are Bicolor cats.
post #8 of 48
There's a classic tuxedo pattern, as Feliz shows off beautifully.
I love tuxedos. Felix is soooo gorgeous. ()

Edit: A cat can be the proper "bicolor" and still be an affectionately termed "tuxedo" too, though, right? I don't see anything wrong with that.
post #9 of 48
Tuxedo is really an "unofficial" term referring to any cat who looks like they are wearing a tuxedo.
Bi-color is the "techical" term for all cats who are two colors including black/white. So a tuxedo cat is really a bi-color but "tuxedo" is more of a descriptive term...

My cat Sneakers is definitely a "tuxedo" cat. I like to say that she has a 3-piece suit because if you look at the markings on her chest it looks like she is wearing a vest or waistcoat as well!
She got a bow-tie for Xmas one year to go with her suit:

post #10 of 48
I get the impression that a lot of people think its a "breed" of cat - not a color. And because bicolors can come in black/white, red/white, blue/white, then they should be called BICOLOR and not "tuxedo".

I guess its due more to me showing cats for a long time - I prefer to use the proper names for colors.

Its my pet peeve
post #11 of 48
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Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45 View Post
I get the impression that a lot of people think its a "breed" of cat - not a color. And because bicolors can come in black/white, red/white, blue/white, then they should be called BICOLOR and not "tuxedo".

I guess its due more to me showing cats for a long time - I prefer to use the proper names for colors.

Its my pet peeve
Sorry, I did not mean to offend. I did not think that tuxedo cats were a breed. Marshmallow is a DLH. But I do think the term tuxedo is cute.
post #12 of 48
You didn't, just kinda bugs me when people use that for their black& white cats. Yes it does look like a tuxedo, but I still would rather hear bicolor. BTW Ling is a black & white bicolor but you could call her "tuxedo" with her markings.
post #13 of 48


This is Roxy, my Tuxedo cat who passed away last year.
post #14 of 48
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Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45 View Post
You didn't, just kinda bugs me when people use that for their black& white cats. Yes it does look like a tuxedo, but I still would rather hear bicolor.
When I say "tuxedo" I don't think of it as a color, I think of it as a description of the cat. Like how I sometimes call white dogs with large black or brown spots "cowdogs."
It's a description of how they look, not a statement of color or breed.

I mean-- isn't "wearing a tuxedo" an accurate description of Sneakers' appearance?
If I just told people I had a bicolor cat they would not be able to picture her unless I wrote a lot more describing her appearance, but if I say "tuxedo" people immediately have an idea of how she looks.
post #15 of 48
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Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45 View Post
I get the impression that a lot of people think its a "breed" of cat - not a color. And because bicolors can come in black/white, red/white, blue/white, then they should be called BICOLOR and not "tuxedo".

Thought I'd find you in here GK agree with your posts, they should be called bicolours.
post #16 of 48
I cow cats


and tux kittehs!! Sooooo adorable!
post #17 of 48
This thread just reminded me of my beautiful bi-colour or tuxedo cat, whichever you prefer, Villy, she sadly passed away in August :-(
I miss her so much.
post #18 of 48
One more funny comment before you guys drive me nutz

My first cat was a "grey" tabby and white. When I took him to one of my first shows, the judge that judged him had this to say (maybe this is why I want to use the correct term).

Diane had him out on the table and was telling the audience that he was a BLUE tabby - not a "grey" tabby. She hated when people used grey to describe the blue cats (she was a Russian Blue breeder). And her other comment was "and I hate when people call them Smokey". I never told her that when Mitten first came to our house we were calling him Smokey!

So I got educated real quick on the proper color names for cats.
post #19 of 48
I love me tuxies. I personally think they need to look like they are wearing tuxes to be called that as a descriptive wording. Some that people call tuxedo cats (like i've seen on petfinder) are really not IMHO. If they have more white than black on the head and shoulder it looks like they are wearing their "shirt" over their heads. Very sloppy tux wearing kitties.

Just as a response to those that show their cats, I can understand the peevishness. I also understand that they are not a breed, but it is a way to describe the pattern of their coat. Not b&w striping, not b&w circles, but b&w tuxedo looking. If my cat were to be lost I would gladly give them any description that would help. Being a bi-color b&w would not narrow the field very much being that their are TONS of b&w cats out there. But if I tell people they are wearing a suit that narrows the field a bit.

The photo of the tux with red bowtie is soooooo super adorable.
post #20 of 48
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The photo of the tux with red bowtie is soooooo super adorable.
That kitteh belongs to Nekochan http://www.thecatsite.com/forums/sho...76&postcount=9
post #21 of 48
Come on, now. LOL! Felix is a former feral!!! Let him feel important by acknowledging that he is a very dapper boy, wearing his tuxedo.

Bi-color, schmi-color! He'll always be my TUXEDO CAT!!!

Cally
post #22 of 48
I think you guys are doing this on purpose.......
post #23 of 48
I don't really see the big deal in using a cute discriptive name for cats. Sebastian (As you can see below) is a tuxedo cat...And his little half mustash just makes him look that much more distinguished.

The truth is to call a bi colored cat who fits the description of a tuxedo cat a tuxedo it is more a comment on the cats pattern than the colors.

I call Fae white with calico patches instead of calico because that is just what she is.
post #24 of 48
It honestly never occurred to me to think that anyone thinks a "tuxedo cat" is a breed of cat!

That said... we have three bi-color black & white cats with Tuxedo markings. (GK is that ok? ) Billy's wearing a traditional Tuxedo, Shelly's wearing knickers, and Tuxedo looks like he got into a bar fight after the event.
post #25 of 48
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Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45 View Post
Diane had him out on the table and was telling the audience that he was a BLUE tabby - not a "grey" tabby. She hated when people used grey to describe the blue cats (she was a Russian Blue breeder). And her other comment was "and I hate when people call them Smokey". I never told her that when Mitten first came to our house we were calling him Smokey!
I got the correct colors before I showed them (partially by asking on here, if you remember the debate on whether Church is a spotted or a mackerel tabby ) but that reminds me of one of the shows I went to. It was more of a laid-back show because it was a household pet only show at a big Pet Expo and not held by any of the cat organizations. Someone had apparently put their cat down as a grey tabby and the judge said "Squirrels are grey, cats are blue."
post #26 of 48
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Originally Posted by CatMom2Wires View Post
Come on, now. LOL! Felix is a former feral!!! Let him feel important by acknowledging that he is a very dapper boy, wearing his tuxedo.

Bi-color, schmi-color! He'll always be my TUXEDO CAT!!!

Cally
I agree! Let him have his place in the spotlight!

Thank you all for the information and for posting such beautiful cat pictures. I won't be troubled if anyone calls Marshmallow a tuxedo cat, even though he appears to be more or less a bovine type of fellow. It never bothered me when the neighbors' kids got it all wrong and asked me when Garfield was going to have kittens...I hardly had the heart to tell them that Garfield was a boy.
post #27 of 48
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I really dislike the term "tuxedo" cats. The PROPER name for cats with white and another solid color is BICOLOR. No matter what percent of color and white there is.

The only one that the show cat fancy uses that is an exception to Bicolor is "Van" - where 90% of the cat is white and the color is on the head and tail. Otherwise they ALL are Bicolor cats.
First in the modeling world.....now it the cat world......

Maybe we should change the standards in those cat magazines. Let's protest and ask for more bicoloured cats to be shown. Perhaps Cat Fancy could have a special edition dedicated to bi coloured cats.

post #28 of 48
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Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45 View Post
I get the impression that a lot of people think its a "breed" of cat - not a color. And because bicolors can come in black/white, red/white, blue/white, then they should be called BICOLOR and not "tuxedo".

I guess its due more to me showing cats for a long time - I prefer to use the proper names for colors.

Its my pet peeve
I don't think it's a breed, I just think it's a cute way to describe a cat. I don't see what's the harm. I don't even know what breed Swanie is, and don't care. I didn't even know what "qualified" a cat to be called tuxedo, until I read a description one day, looked at Swanie, and said Hey Dude! You're a Tuxie!
post #29 of 48
My boy has classic tuxedo markings, but he's grey rather than black (or, according to this thread, blue--but he looks grey, and we named him Grigio accordingly). In any case, would you call him tuxedo if he's not black, since these days, tuxedos come in other colors?
post #30 of 48
Certainly, IMO, you may call your handsome kitteh a "gray tuxedo!" LOL My Felix came from an unsocialized colony from the mean lady across the road from us (she DOES feed--she just doesn't spay or neuter). Recently we've seen a gray tuxedo boy in the group. Felix calls to his "brethren" from the front window and we always say, "Look, there's your gray cousin!"

Cally
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