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post #1 of 47
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My kitties and I were at the show in Dayton this weekend and a photographer from the Dayton Daily News spent some time with us.

Photo gallery from the show.

This photo of PB was published by the paper in full color.

My girl, Ellie.

The photographer really liked the way the light reflected off of our toy. Juju agreed.
Juju has the toy in sight
Attack!
And again!
post #2 of 47
Congrats on getting in the paper.
I love the picture with the toy.
Do you know who owns the sphynx that was on the site?
post #3 of 47
Wow, that's so exciting!!!
Make sure to save some of those papers - that is pretty special! Congrats!
post #4 of 47
All the pretty kitties! Your kitty is adorable! How did she do?
post #5 of 47
I liked the expression on RB's face.
post #6 of 47
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Mews - I've got the catalog and will send you the info.

PB gets away with murder on account of that face. . .
post #7 of 47
Well done. I love getting in the paper.

ETA: gorgeous scottie fold!
post #8 of 47
Cool pics. Love the Ocicat too. Its not Jack's breeder - must be Fran something (I think that's her name). Check in your catalog and see which Oci's were there and PM me. Dayton is in Jack's breeder's backyard and I think she went to that show.

And just WHO is that stunning Mau?????


I think at the Fargo show, Jack was in the paper - we have it and didn't know he was there till someone mentioned it. Hubby went out and got a paper for us to keep in Jack's book.


MrB - which Russian Blue - I didn't see the picture - there was a British Blue but not a Russian.
post #9 of 47
Hmm

the persian in photo no.14/19 seems to have an eye problem, you can clearly see the brown smudges- why is it possible to show an obviously unhealthy kitty at a cat show? I thought there are vets checking out the cats before they can be entered?

The sphynx on photo 26 doesn't seem to have any whiskers, poor baby. In Germany breeding such cats is seen as a form of animal cruelty (same thing with the cat in photo 35).

@ Ferris cat, your girl is absolutely gorgeous , congratulations, I'd also have given her front page

regards,

christine
post #10 of 47
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Hmm

the persian in photo no.14/19 seems to have an eye problem, you can clearly see the brown smudges- why is it possible to show an obviously unhealthy kitty at a cat show? I thought there are vets checking out the cats before they can be entered? That is a white Persian, IMO there is no eye problem there - you need a miracle to get spotless eyes on a white Persian. Those eyes are just fine, super clean actually.

The sphynx on photo 26 doesn't seem to have any whiskers, poor baby. In Germany breeding such cats is seen as a form of animal cruelty (same thing with the cat in photo 35). Why is that an animal cruelty? Nobody is waxing them That is a breed like any other, and is a very healthy breed, BTW. The cat on #35 has curly hair - why would that be animal cruelty? nobody gave him a perm either IMO Animal cruelty would be waxing a cat or giving it a perm to get those looks.

@ Ferris cat, your girl is absolutely gorgeous , congratulations, I'd also have given her front page

regards,

christine
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post #11 of 47
Hi

That is a white Persian, IMO there is no eye problem there - you need a miracle to get spotless eyes on a white Persian. Those eyes are just fine, super clean actually.

Um, I've never owned a pure white cat (though a good friend of mine does), just cats with white fur around the eyes . None of my cats ever needed their eyes cleaned or had such stains around their eyes- unless they had an eye problem, in which case I'd go to a vets. So why would you need a miracle to get spotless white eyes with a persian if there is no underlying health problem???

Why is that an animal cruelty? Nobody is waxing them That is a breed like any other, and is a very healthy breed, BTW. The cat on #35 has curly hair - why would that be animal cruelty? nobody gave him a perm either IMO Animal cruelty would be waxing a cat or giving it a perm to get those looks


I realize nobody is waxing them. But a cats whiskers do have a function, they're not purly decorative (thoght I must admit I do find white whiskers on a tuxedo cat very beautiful).

Have a look at what wiki has to say about whiskers:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskers

and

http://www.petside.com/petsideblog/2...ed-to-know.php

"In some mammals, the follicles of vibrissae are surrounded by a highly developed sheath of muscle tissue which can be used to move them, such as in the case of whiskers found on cats, dogs and other mammals."

"A large part of the brain of many mammals is devoted to processing the nerve impulses from vibrissae, because this is important for survival. Information from the vibrissae is transmitted and processed through the trigeminal nerve into the brainstem and thalamus before relaying to the barrel cortex of the brain. Mammals use a great deal of energy to keep the follicles housing their whiskers warm and ready to use."


Some white cats are deaf, nobody makes them that way either. But that doesn't mean it would be OK to breed with a deaf white cat. Similarly it's not OK to breed a cat without whiskers as these are important sensors for a cat.


regards,

Christine
post #12 of 47
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Originally Posted by cjh27 View Post
Hmm

the persian in photo no.14/19 seems to have an eye problem, you can clearly see the brown smudges- why is it possible to show an obviously unhealthy kitty at a cat show? I thought there are vets checking out the cats before they can be entered?

The sphynx on photo 26 doesn't seem to have any whiskers, poor baby. In Germany breeding such cats is seen as a form of animal cruelty (same thing with the cat in photo 35).

@ Ferris cat, your girl is absolutely gorgeous , congratulations, I'd also have given her front page

regards,

christine

Sphynx cats do not HAVE whiskers from what I have read. Why is it animal cruelty? As for the white persian, I don't see anything unhealthy about it. The eyes are clear and bright and like Carolina says, it is practically impossible to get spotless eyes on a white persian.
post #13 of 47
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Sphynx cats do not HAVE whiskers from what I have read. Why is it animal cruelty? As for the white persian, I don't see anything unhealthy about it. The eyes are clear and bright and like Carolina says, it is practically impossible to get spotless eyes on a white persian.

... as said above- I've never had problems with any of my cats regarding spotless eyes, they wash their faces themselves and thats just that. Why should this be a problem with a persian????


regards,

Christine
post #14 of 47
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ETA: gorgeous scottie fold!
You have to see that cat to believe your eyes. . .
post #15 of 47
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And just WHO is that stunning Mau?????
Mimesis Poker Face, aka PB. He's my showkitty.

I'll get the Oci info out to you
post #16 of 47
Good Quality show sphynx do not hve whiskers.
In Germany the sphynx breed is treated bad.
My friends have told me.
If there was something wrong with the Persian the judges would not allow it to be shown.
Here are pics of my sphynx and as you can see they do not have whiskers.
In fact having no whiskers does not bother them at all.
I will post the sphynx standards and history of them if you want.



post #17 of 47
Congratulations, PB and Ellie are gorgeous.
post #18 of 47
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Hmm

the persian in photo no.14/19 seems to have an eye problem, you can clearly see the brown smudges- why is it possible to show an obviously unhealthy kitty at a cat show? I thought there are vets checking out the cats before they can be entered?

The sphynx on photo 26 doesn't seem to have any whiskers, poor baby. In Germany breeding such cats is seen as a form of animal cruelty (same thing with the cat in photo 35).

@ Ferris cat, your girl is absolutely gorgeous , congratulations, I'd also have given her front page

regards,

christine
Umm you're seriously living in the dark ages if you believe that cats really need their whiskers.

Cats that live together in pairs + usually bite each others whiskers off and it doesn't do them ANY harm.

That white Persian does NOT have an eye problem. Those eyes are fine.

If you have never owned a white Persian then I think you need to seriously watch what you say.

It always always my dream to own a white Persian and I wasn't allowed one until I was 10 (I think)

I found this photo of her



Sorry but my cats do NOT have eye problems, they are healthy and well looked after - when you've owned your first white Persian come back and tell me how easy it was!
post #19 of 47
Christine - you must be kinda new to purebred cats. Some breeds (natural mutations) don't have everything. Cornish/Devon Rexes and Sphynx have curly whiskers or no whiskers. This has never hurt the cats in any way. They still act normal, navigate normal,etc.

Manx cats have no tail - does that affect them much? No. I would suggest you read about some of the breed history before you jump to conclusion about "cruelty".
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Umm you're seriously living in the dark ages if you believe that cats really need their whiskers.

Cats that live together in pairs + usually bite each others whiskers off and it doesn't do them ANY harm.
So you're trying to tell me now that cats don't need whiskers and that whiskers don't have any function? So why do cats then have whiskers in your oppinion?

Grown up cats do not bite off each others whiskers in my experiance- this is something a mother will sometimes do to try to stop kittens from leaving the nest too soon. None of my grown up cats have ever bitten of each others whiskers (we've had up to 6 cats living together here), nor do my neighbours cats have bitten off whiskers (they both have 4).

Maybe you're the one living in the dark ages concerning the functions of a cats whiskers?



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That white Persian does NOT have an eye problem. Those eyes are fine.

If you have never owned a white Persian then I think you need to seriously watch what you say.

Why? This is a free forum and I should be able to say what I think and comment on things I see in photos freely.


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It always always my dream to own a white Persian and I wasn't allowed one until I was 10 (I think)

I found this photo of her



Sorry but my cats do NOT have eye problems, they are healthy and well looked after - when you've owned your first white Persian come back and tell me how easy it was!
For me your cat in that photo quite cleary has an eye problem- why else is there so much brown discolouring around the eyes? A healthy cat does not look like this.

If you think I'm not getting the point then please explain to me where this discoulouring is coming from, it's not typicall for white domestic cats.

regards,

Christine
post #21 of 47
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For me your cat in that photo quite cleary has an eye problem- why else is there so much brown discolouring around the eyes? A healthy cat does not look like this.

If you think I'm not getting the point then please explain to me where this discoulouring is coming from, it's not typicall for white domestic cats.

regards,

Christine
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That is simply Tear Staining, common in Persians, and actually also in many white dogs, like the Maltese for example.
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That is simply Tear Staining, common in Persians, and actually also in many white dogs, like the Maltese for example.
Um, I realize its tear staining, I do have cats , but why should tear staining be normal? What is causing this tear staining? How can this be normal or common in any type of cat? An eye simply shouldn't be tearing that much!

With my cats tear staining is a sign to go to the vets to get it checked out.

regards,

Christine
post #23 of 47
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Um, I realize its tear staining, I do have cats , but why should tear staining be normal? What is causing this tear staining? How can this be normal or common in any type of cat? An eye simply shouldn't be tearing that much!

With my cats tear staining is a sign to go to the vets to get it checked out.

regards,

Christine
Christine, if you want to accept this or not, it is your choice - as said many times before, by different members this is not a sign of bad health - this is tears staining that is typical to PERSIANS. You do not have Persian cats nor you need to, so just stay away from them.
There is a reason why they are one of the most popular breeds IN THE WORLD, and #1 breed in the USA. If that was a sign of bad health, do you think this would be the case? I think not
Tear staining is simply a cosmetic issue on Persians. That is all, if you want it or not, that is reality.
If your cat, who is not a Persian suddenly has a lot of discharge from his eyes, then yes, go see a vet because that is not normal for your cat.
Tear Staining is normal on Persians, and can be noticed much more on white persians. Period..
post #24 of 47
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Grown up cats do not bite off each others whiskers in my experiance- this is something a mother will sometimes do to try to stop kittens from leaving the nest too soon
I have a boy who chews whiskers off kittens and adults, I've seen other adults with chewed whiskers too so it does happen
post #25 of 47
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Christine, if you want to accept this or not, it is your choice - as said many times before, by different members this is not a sign of bad health - this is tears staining that is typical to PERSIANS. You do not have Persian cats nor you need to, so just stay away from them.
There is a reason why they are one of the most popular breeds IN THE WORLD, and #1 breed in the USA. If that was a sign of bad health, do you think this would be the case? I think not
Tear staining is simply a cosmetic issue on Persians. That is all, if you want it or not, that is reality.
If your cat, who is not a Persian suddenly has a lot of discharge from his eyes, then yes, go see a vet because that is not normal for your cat.
Tear Staining is normal on Persians, and can be noticed much more on white persians. Period..

OK, but then please also accept my oppinion that this can not be good for persian cats in general. I do NOT think this should be seen as something normal just because it is common. In my opinion there is no need to breed cats with constantly tearing eyes, breeding should be about improving cats!

regards,

christine
post #26 of 47
Sphynx were not bred not to have whiskers.
It is a natural mutation.
Having no whiskers does not effect them at all.
Some sphynx will grow little whiskers that curl up.
They do not grow normal whiskers like other cats.
Here is the sphynx breed profile.
http://www.cfa.org/breeds/profiles/sphynx.html
post #27 of 47
Unless you are interested in working with the breeds, its really not right or fair to critisize what is normal on certain breeds. No one said you have to own one you don't like.

I don't own Persians for the simple reason that I can't stand to have to comb them every day (a requirement if you own a long hair). But to say "a Persian shouldn't have a long coat cause it gets matted too much, is silly".
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Unless you are interested in working with the breeds, its really not right or fair to critisize what is normal on certain breeds. No one said you have to own one you don't like.

I don't own Persians for the simple reason that I can't stand to have to comb them every day (a requirement if you own a long hair). But to say "a Persian shouldn't have a long coat cause it gets matted too much, is silly".
Hi,

I love cats and am interested in cats in general. I don't think its fair to tell people they are not allowed to be critical and ask questions about breeds or breeding practices.

You don't have to like my oppinions, but please don't tell me I'm not entitled to them.


regards,

Christine
post #29 of 47
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Wow, we are really off topic here!

I've never heard of a cat passing away due to their bald whisker pads or stained under-eye area. In my opinion, we're talking about cosmetic issues and not health issues. Health issues imply something chronically debilitating.
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Congratulations, PB and Ellie are gorgeous.
Thanks I like them a lot too and both will be kept for breeding. Juju is already neutered
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