Can someone give me an opinion on these foods?

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With the idea being weight loss in an overweight cat who is otherwise healthy? And, can someone recommend a food that's just as good/better? (These are all Royal Canine prescription foods). I'm going to try to go talk to my vet this weekend to get Swanie on diet, and this is what she pushes. (He's had his blood tests and they came back fine.)

Ingredients:
Water sufficient for processing, liver, beef, tuna, brewers rice, pea fiber, wheat flour, oat fiber, corn oil, fish oil, calcium carbonate, dicalcium phosphate, potassium chloride, L-Lysine monohydrochloride, taurine, salt, choline chloride, vitamin supplements (E, B-12, D-3), niacin, biotin, riboflavin supplement, calcium pantothenate, zinc oxide, ferrous sulfate, manganese sulfate, folic acid, pyridoxine hydrochloride, thiamine mononitrate, copper sulfate, menadione sodium bisulfite complex, sodium selenite.

Guaranteed Analysis %:
Protein, % 10.9
Carbohydrate, % 5.67
Fat, % 3.58
Crude Fiber, % 2.49
Calcium, % 0.3
Phosphorus, % 0.24
Chloride, % 0.23
Potassium, % 0.22
Taurine, % 0.09
Sodium, % 0.08
Magnesium, % 0.03

Water sufficient for processing, pork by-products, chicken, chicken liver, pork, rice flour, salmon, fish oil, guar gum, natural flavors, calcium sulfate, carrageenan, Vitamins [DL-alpha tocopherol acetate (source of vitamin E), thiamine mononitrate (vitamin B1), niacin supplement, biotin, D-calcium pantothenate, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), riboflavin supplement (vitamin B2), vitamin B12 supplement, folic acid, vitamin D3 supplement], Trace Minerals [zinc proteinate, zinc oxide, iron sulfate, copper sulfate, manganous oxide, sodium selenite, calcium iodate], potassium citrate, inulin, choline chloride, taurine.

Guaranteed Analysis %:
Moisture, (max) \t78
Crude Protein, (min) \t10
Crude Fat, (min) \t5
Crude Fiber, (max) \t1




Ingredients:
Water sufficient for processing, chicken liver, pork by-products, pork hearts, rice flour, salmon, powdered cellulose, flax seed, calcium sulfate, guar gum, natural flavors, carrageenan, potassium citrate, dried brewers yeast, inulin, choline chloride, salt, Vitamins [DL-alpha tocopherol acetate (source of vitamin E), thiamine mononitrate (vitamin B1), niacin supplement, biotin, D-calcium pantothenate, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), riboflavin supplement (vitamin B2), vitamin B12 supplement, folic acid, vitamin D3 supplement, L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (source of vitamin C)], Trace Minerals [zinc proteinate, zinc oxide, iron sulfate, copper sulfate, manganous oxide, sodium selenite, calcium iodate], tricalcium phosphate, taurine, L-carnitine.
 

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IMO those are junk. Though at least they are wet food.

You don't need a "special" wet food for cats to lose wieght. Instead try looking for something with low carb, no grain, and no by-products.
 

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Originally Posted by Misty8723

With the idea being weight loss in an overweight cat who is otherwise healthy? And, can someone recommend a food that's just as good/better? (These are all Royal Canine prescription foods). I'm going to try to go talk to my vet this weekend to get Swanie on diet, and this is what she pushes. (He's had his blood tests and they came back fine.)

Ingredients:
Water sufficient for processing, liver, beef, tuna, brewers rice, pea fiber, wheat flour, oat fiber, corn oil, fish oil, calcium carbonate, dicalcium phosphate, potassium chloride, L-Lysine monohydrochloride, taurine, salt, choline chloride, vitamin supplements (E, B-12, D-3), niacin, biotin, riboflavin supplement, calcium pantothenate, zinc oxide, ferrous sulfate, manganese sulfate, folic acid, pyridoxine hydrochloride, thiamine mononitrate, copper sulfate, menadione sodium bisulfite complex, sodium selenite.

Guaranteed Analysis %:
Protein, % 10.9
Carbohydrate, % 5.67
Fat, % 3.58
Crude Fiber, % 2.49
Calcium, % 0.3
Phosphorus, % 0.24
Chloride, % 0.23
Potassium, % 0.22
Taurine, % 0.09
Sodium, % 0.08
Magnesium, % 0.03

Water sufficient for processing, pork by-products, chicken, chicken liver, pork, rice flour, salmon, fish oil, guar gum, natural flavors, calcium sulfate, carrageenan, Vitamins [DL-alpha tocopherol acetate (source of vitamin E), thiamine mononitrate (vitamin B1), niacin supplement, biotin, D-calcium pantothenate, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), riboflavin supplement (vitamin B2), vitamin B12 supplement, folic acid, vitamin D3 supplement], Trace Minerals [zinc proteinate, zinc oxide, iron sulfate, copper sulfate, manganous oxide, sodium selenite, calcium iodate], potassium citrate, inulin, choline chloride, taurine.

Guaranteed Analysis %:
Moisture, (max) \t78
Crude Protein, (min) \t10
Crude Fat, (min) \t5
Crude Fiber, (max) \t1




Ingredients:
Water sufficient for processing, chicken liver, pork by-products, pork hearts, rice flour, salmon, powdered cellulose, flax seed, calcium sulfate, guar gum, natural flavors, carrageenan, potassium citrate, dried brewers yeast, inulin, choline chloride, salt, Vitamins [DL-alpha tocopherol acetate (source of vitamin E), thiamine mononitrate (vitamin B1), niacin supplement, biotin, D-calcium pantothenate, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), riboflavin supplement (vitamin B2), vitamin B12 supplement, folic acid, vitamin D3 supplement, L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (source of vitamin C)], Trace Minerals [zinc proteinate, zinc oxide, iron sulfate, copper sulfate, manganous oxide, sodium selenite, calcium iodate], tricalcium phosphate, taurine, L-carnitine.
You know RXs are not great on ingredients but do serve a purpose
.. While I do not like any of them I would not recommend the pork ones as the fat indigestible... The top one looks the best IMHO

How overweight is Swanie? what has he been eating ?
 

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Prescription diets from a vet are generally given for a good reason so discuss the food with your vet.

Wet food is better to help your cat lose weight than dry because dry is full of useless calories.

It is never recommended to put your cat on a diet without guidance from a vet or feline nutritionist because you can do harm.
 
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Originally Posted by sharky

How overweight is Swanie? what has he been eating ?
Swanie currently weights 20 pounds. He has a big frame and he's a solid cat, but he's definitely fatter than he should be. I haven't discussed what he should weight yet with the vet. My personal opinion would be that I think when he was 15 lbs was probably about right.

Right now I feed him about 1.5 oz wet food 3X a day. He and Cindy split a 3 oz can of food. Neither eats the whole amount, but Swanie defnitely eats more of it than Cindy, and if I don't pick her dish up right away, he will get into that one too. They also get a 1/2 cup of dry food to munch on overnight, because Cindy is a grazer. So I haven't figured out how to regulate that.

The types of food I give them at the moment is a rotation of:

Wellness
Natural Balance
Authority Chicken
and occasionally
Innova
California Natural
Eagle Pack Holistic
Fancy Feast
because sometimes that's all her fussiness Cindy will eat

Dry food is about 3-1 California Natural / Innova

They each get a little handful (about a dozen) of TOTW and a couple Greenies as treats.

Also, unfortunately, while I'm at work I have no idea what DH is giving him, but I know he gives him dry food dispite me yelling at him not too, and probably part of his lunch as well.

I don't like any of that stuff the vet sells, but she thinks it's a "good quality" food. I wanted to have some alternatives when I go in to talk to her. I already have some ideas on my own, I was just interested in what I would get on this board, since you all are so well informed.\\

Thanks for the help.
 

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how old are they both?

Pesonally I would ask the proper wt at the vet prior to changing things.... you may think 5 lbs when the vet thinks 2
 
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Originally Posted by sharky

how old are they both?

Pesonally I would ask the proper wt at the vet prior to changing things.... you may think 5 lbs when the vet thinks 2
I don't really know how old they are, we got them from a shelter. Swanie is probably around 4 or 5 and Cindy is older, maybe 6 or 7. Just guessing based on the range they gave us at the shelter.

Oh, I'm not doing anything until I talk to the vet, he's getting his regular meals until I can get in to see her. But I know she wants me to get the Royal Canine because she already told me that's the food she's recommending now, she said it was a great food. I don't agree. So I'm gathering information I can present her with rather than just tell her I don't want to feed him that crappy food. She's a good vet, but just doesn't know much about nutrition I don't think.
 
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