Closed captioned oddness

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I watch TV with the CC on, Its just kind of a habit I got into though I am hearing.
I wonder why they caption some of the stuff they do. Why do they caption actions? For instance, I was watching a show where someone slammed a folder on the table in front of a person they were interrogating, the captioning read "slams folder on table" well yea, I do believe deaf people saw that. Another I saw was someone opened a door to leave a room, it read "Opens door and leaves" again, think we all saw that. ???
I have also noticed some channels are almost always horribly out of sync, either lagging behind several paragraphs or jumping way ahead. I am not talking live stuff like news where it is understandable to lag a little. The jumping ahead, well, can't explain that at all.
I understand no technology is perfect, but come on.
 

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I watch TV with captions on too..It keeps my attention because I get distracted even if I'm watching something mildly interesting..And I have to say nothing is THAT interesting on TV lately to keep my attention
But, sometimes I'm so bored that I'll watch..
I am not sure why they would caption actions, maybe because the action results in a sound that would make it easier to understand for those who can't hear.
 

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I would like to know why the people who do the CC can't spell. We once had the sound go out on a TV and it we had to wait until payday to get a new one. In the meantime we watched it on CC. I was amazed at the amount misspellings there were and how many times the wrong word was used. Like using the word "blew" instead of "blue".
 

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Originally Posted by ink

I would like to know why the people who do the CC can't spell. We once had the sound go out on a TV and it we had to wait until payday to get a new one. In the meantime we watched it on CC. I was amazed at the amount misspellings there were and how many times the wrong word was used. Like using the word "blew" instead of "blue".
It seems like words are spelled phonetically by some kind of voice recognition software...at least to me judging from the type of misspellings

I don't think people write them, because on live shows that would be impossible to type that fast.
 

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I think sometimes when they describe an action it's because that action is supposed to have made a loud noise, which of course a deaf person cannot hear.

I've seen a lot of "Slams door"


I used to always have the CC on because I hate having my TV up very loud.
 

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As a deaf person who obviously uses CC on telly, I think the actions are there to indicate that a sound has occured.

I am guessing a folder would make a noise when being slammed on the table. A door probably makes a noise when it is being opened and shut. Right?

The technology that they use to write the captions is quite similar to those stenographers use in court.

When something lags in a tv show, it usually means that the programme has started earlier or later than usual as cc are usually set up to turn up at the same time as the show.

It takes a lot of work to make the subtitles appear on the tv shows - they work frame by frame - my sister has a friend who used to work in the industry and it was quite interesting to hear from that perspective.
 

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Originally Posted by Kiwideus

As a deaf person who obviously uses CC on telly, I think the actions are there to indicate that a sound has occured.

I am guessing a folder would make a noise when being slammed on the table. A door probably makes a noise when it is being opened and shut. Right?

The technology that they use to write the captions is quite similar to those stenographers use in court.

When something lags in a tv show, it usually means that the programme has started earlier or later than usual as cc are usually set up to turn up at the same time as the show.

It takes a lot of work to make the subtitles appear on the tv shows - they work frame by frame - my sister has a friend who used to work in the industry and it was quite interesting to hear from that perspective.
*That does make sense folders and doors do make sounds when slammed around. And if CC is there to basically write out noises then it saying that a door slams or folder slams on table..it makes sense..But I dont use CC because then Im paying more attention to trying to read than watch tv and then Im totally lost in the show and dont know whats going on*
 

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Originally Posted by Kiwideus

As a deaf person who obviously uses CC on telly, I think the actions are there to indicate that a sound has occured.

I am guessing a folder would make a noise when being slammed on the table. A door probably makes a noise when it is being opened and shut. Right?

The technology that they use to write the captions is quite similar to those stenographers use in court.

When something lags in a tv show, it usually means that the programme has started earlier or later than usual as cc are usually set up to turn up at the same time as the show.

It takes a lot of work to make the subtitles appear on the tv shows - they work frame by frame - my sister has a friend who used to work in the industry and it was quite interesting to hear from that perspective.
Those actions do make noises yep. Slamming doors and books usually makes a loud jarring noise. So that makes sense... I just would have never of thought of it the way you put it.
 

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I could see why it would say "slams door" or "slams folder" because these actions had an emphasis, and is germane to the tone of the scene. It probably doesn't do it as often if the door is closed normally, or something is just set down.

Kellye, that's interesting about the lag time...I never thought about them being broadcast...I guess I thought the cc was somehow linked to the actual program, and not broadcast simultaneously.
 

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Originally Posted by Kiwideus

When something lags in a tv show, it usually means that the programme has started earlier or later than usual as cc are usually set up to turn up at the same time as the show.
Wow, thanks for that info. I've been wondering about that for the longest time. I watch the tv with CC, as my husband is ESL and it helps him learn the language. Even though he could probably do without after all these years, I'm so used to it I can't watch TV without it. When it lags, it drives me nuts and I have to watch something else. I suppose I could just turn the CC off, but I'm so used to it I can't watch TV without it. Drives my parents nuts when I visit them and have to fiddle with their billion remotes to turn the CC on
 

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Originally Posted by rahma

Wow, thanks for that info. I've been wondering about that for the longest time. I watch the tv with CC, as my husband is ESL and it helps him learn the language. Even though he could probably do without after all these years, I'm so used to it I can't watch TV without it. When it lags, it drives me nuts and I have to watch something else. I suppose I could just turn the CC off, but I'm so used to it I can't watch TV without it. Drives my parents nuts when I visit them and have to fiddle with their billion remotes to turn the CC on
I prefer the US remotes where you can turn on the cc with one button. Here in NZ we have to turn on teletext then press 801 to turn them on. We also have to turn them on every time we turn the tv on. Its a big pain in the bum!
 

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Originally Posted by Trillcat

I have also noticed some channels are almost always horribly out of sync, either lagging behind several paragraphs or jumping way ahead. I am not talking live stuff like news where it is understandable to lag a little. The jumping ahead, well, can't explain that at all.
I understand no technology is perfect, but come on.
My sister is hard of hearing, so she watches tv with the CC on. When I was visiting with her recently, I noticed that on the supposedly live nightly news show, the captioning was running way ahead. I can understand it on a recorded show, but why would it do that on "live" news?
 

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Originally Posted by Misty8723

My sister is hard of hearing, so she watches tv with the CC on. When I was visiting with her recently, I noticed that on the supposedly live nightly news show, the captioning was running way ahead. I can understand it on a recorded show, but why would it do that on "live" news?
They would have had a script
 
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