So angry about the swine flu shot

Have you tried at the local Heath Departments?Ours did free shots on Sat. for kids ages 6 months to 24 years.
All 4 of mine got the shot.
As for the Drs office,mine stated the same thing.That there is a shortage,and they wouldn't be getting them in.But, to go to the Health Department.
It may be a place to start?

This is part of why I've pretty much decided against getting it...I'm not in any high risk groups so I figure someone else probably needs it more than me.

If the government takes over health care in the guise of "helping" 97% of Americans - you can bet your butt things will be a LOT worse then they are now!

Anyone that believes the lies being sent from the WH, has their head in the sand!

I beg to differ. A young, healthy, 13 year old hockey player fell ill and died within 24 hours last weekend. On that basis alone I do believe elementary school children are at high risk.

Who gets the vaccine is determined by your government?

Oh please, 2 months ago the general public was calling the swine flu an overblown myth being perpetuated by an overreacting government who had some sort of agenda. Now it's the government's fault because they haven't done enough.

Everything is always the government's fault. Never mind that the vaccine takes a long time to actually make - longer than they had expected, because they hadn't had to make it before. Never mind that there is only one company making it - and they're doing so in a government facility that's purpose built for just this occasion, which Bush was smart enough to have constructed while he was in power.

A vaccine doesn't just appear. They use chicken eggs to grow the vaccine, so they need to get chicken eggs - and not any old chickens, ones that are in sterile, clean conditions, then they have to inject the eggs with the virus, incubate the eggs to grow the virus, then use that to make the actual vaccine. It's a big process, and with millions and millions of people who want the virus, and want it NOW, it's not exactly an easy process to try and make enough vaccines, then find a way to get them to ONLY the high risk patients first.

The local doctors and health departments should be making sure only high risk patients are getting the vaccines first. I'm high risk, but I can't get the vaccine because there has not been ONE SINGLE vaccine available in my entire county - not even for health care providers. I don't blame the government though, I know it's just a difficult process to try and make that many vaccines, and distribute them to the needed areas.

I'm flying to Australia on Friday, and have an appointment first thing Monday morning to get my H1N1 vaccine there - which of course is free thanks to Australia's fantastic government run health care system.

That would surprise me, actually. There are bottlenecks here, because although the German government ordered millions of doses months ago, the pharmaceutical companies can't produce fast enough to meet demand. Doctors are ordering from pharmacies, and the pharmacies are waiting for further deliveries from the producers. One vial contains ten doses, and once opened, the vaccine has to be administered within 24 hours. Doctors are determining who gets the vaccine when.

Of course it's the government's fault! Gotta blame someone and they have the widest shoulders it would seem.

I wonder how many of those that said they didn't think the vaccine was safe and certainly wouldn't be getting it, are now wanting it and complaining that they can't get it soon enough.

I stand my ground on NOT wanting the vaccine. You don't see me whining and complaining. You all can have my vaccine whenever it's available.

Good for you for standing for what you believe in.

I don't know what they are doing in the US, but here in Canada they are making one without the adjuvant (sp?) for pregnant women just in case there might be a problem with that. One doctor that was interviewed said the adjuvant was the same one that is used in the malaria vaccine so it has been tested already some time ago.

Im not getting the vaccine either!! Ill give mine to my daughters at 5 and 6 they need it more than I do!!! Although I have been exposed to the virus by 2 people one lady at work has a 14mth old son who got it and the manager I work with the most has tested positive for it also...knock on wood so far so good I havent had any flu symptoms and noone else at work has had it

Of course here nobody can seem to get the vaccine, not even all school children but they are talking about vaccinating all the inmates

I was one that was totally against the shot! But,when faced with a chance of death for my kids--the shot was a no brainer--they got it.
2 of my 4 are high risk.1 is so HIGH that he gets pnemonia again,and we undergo immune suprescent tests.And he WILL be hospitalized.
As I've said, in my home flu shots are NOT a choice...they are simply a must.Seth will have to have them for the rest of his life.And anyone in his home,will also have to have them for HIS safety.
I am NOT one complaining about me getting the shot.I would soooooooo much rather high risk people get it.If and WHEN they ever get enough for the rest of us, then I will get mine.Until then, I have to hope and pray--that my husband and I do NOT come into contact with the H1N1.

As I understand it, it is the health department in each state and county, god help us, that basically decides how the shipments are divided - not the federal government. My county is giving some doses to private practices but most to public health agencies. My own doctor has been getting some, but, of course, they're immunizing children and pregnant ladies, which makes sense - I'm in line due to a chronic illness, but I'm good with the decision to date. Other counties are doing it in other ways.

I understood the Obama girls got their shots when the rest of the DC school population got theirs - and mom and dad are still in line. Actually, I'm not sure I agree with that - I think at least the President should have been immunized.

Re prison populations, assuming the reports are right - I wonder if they're thinking of a lot of the inmates being right in the target age group, obviously a lot of contact (even more than a college campus dorm), and the possibility of a massive breakout in an enclosed facility, expanding to the greater population through contact with guards and visitors. Also, would it be all inmates or the same target groups - juveniles, pregnant inmates, and those with compromised health?

But, yeah, I was thinking a lot of people who didn't care if they ever got the shot are probably very annoyed they can't get it now.

PS - see the news that it's confirmed that a cat in Iowa did get the swine flu, probably from the humans in her home. Couple of ferrets too.

I must do some research on this, but does anyone know if an egg-allergic person should not have it, despite being in a high risk group? My friend is is aged 80 with severe dementia lives in a care home and I have been asked as her executor to give permission for her to have it. No one at the home seems to know the position. I am seeing her doctor next week when I am in the UK.

They can have mine too

no,they are turning away people/kids with egg allergies.They are not giving them the shots or mist.

The Swine Flu Vaccine Screw-Up
Ehrenreich is a very prominent scholar and writer, whose books and articles I've had to read in many instances throughout my education in sociology. This is what she has to say about the swine flu vaccine ...it makes me mad. It goes on and on but I am not quoting the whole thing ...just click on the link ..

I'm pretty sure she shouldn't get it. I'm not sure what the other options are...

Edit: Hubby just looked it up, and there are some non-egg based vaccines being produced for those that are high risk but have egg allergies.

If she's elderly though, she was probably already exposed to it previously, and most likely already has some resistance to H1N1. If you can find a non-egg based vaccine, I would recommend it.

I personally feel that ALL children should get the shot(if they want it that is).Not all of them are at as high risk as some others,but could be exposed to high risk kids all the time.
2 of my 4,have to take breathing treatments all the time.Every 4 hours for Seth,and Jordan when theirs flare up.They are BOTH on inhalers,and Singulair.

EXACTLY.

I think any child in the school system should be able to get the vaccine if wanted.

I am curious, what is the criteria for getting the shot where you are?

Here:

Only the following individuals may attend the clinics listed below:
· Individuals under the age of 65 who
- have underlying medical conditions;
- are household members of children under the age of six (6) months
- are household members of individuals with problems with their immune systems (examples: cancer treatment, HIV/AIDS, transplant patients, kidney dialysis, taking long term steroids and some other drugs);
· Children between six (6) months and less than five (5) years of age;
· Pregnant women with underlying medical conditions or healthy women over 20 weeks of pregnancy;
· Health care workers

compliments of http://www.healthunit.com/default.aspx

School age children are being put on the list here today I believe.

My will be SIL is almost 20 weeks pregnant and went to the doctors yesterday and because shes a major high risk pregnancy (heart problems) she was recommended to get the vaccine and after getting all the information she could her and her husband debated for a week as to get it or not. She ended up getting the vaccine because the pros outweighed the cons for her. I guess (according to her) Geisenger is screening everyone who goes into the hospital now *They ask if you have had a fever for 2 days and have a sore throat or a cough..Thats it..some screening IMO* But I guess the maternity ward and childrens ward has had great access to the vaccine and has been able to get it to a lot of people. Im going to be calling my mom today to find out if my girls have gotten it because their elementary school plus high school have both had cases of H1N1 there and the last thing I want is my girls to get sick. My youngest has severe seasonal allergies and Im not even sure if she can get it because of her allergies.

I'm still confused - is it Obama's government that is distributing the vaccine and determining who should get it?

Our regional health authority decides who gets in. High risk was last friday. My oldest daughter and i both got the vaccine. Our health nurse is annoyed that household contacts ( Dh and my other 2 kids ) aren't able to gt it for another 3 weeks. There is no shortage of vaccine here, but there is a shortage of health nurse to give the vaccine.