We are feeding 21- Please Help!

mlwslb78

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Ok, so here it goes. We are feeding 21 strictly indoor kitties. We haven't been so great with the food we have been feeding them as we have just been feeding them kibble you can pick up Wally World. Well after $600 and two confirmed cases of struvite crystals we need a change. We followed the directions from our vet to keep those two on the the Hill's s/d formula until it's completion and had them rechecked to be sure we had cleared them up. All is now well with them, however we have some other kitties (litter mates) using our kitchen floor as their personal potty and any clothing they can get to. We both work outside of the home so unfortunately we can't tell who's got the issue. Anyway our vet recommended putting the whole household on a higher quality food to help prevent and help reduce any crystals in any other kitties. Which brings me here, I went to a local Mom and Pop shop that carries specialty brand foods and was told that Felidae is a great canned food for them to be on and she recommended Taste of The Wild for the kibble, I went to another Mom and Pop shop who recommended Orijen for the kibble. Again we have 21 and there is no option for splitting up the feedings. Can anyone please point me in a direction to head in. I am looking at three different foods for the kibble they are Taste of the Wild, Felidae, and Orijen. We need something that is going to stick with them, so that they don't blow through $25 plus per week on the kibble, and if anyone could recommend a different canned food I'm open to that too. They do however seem to enjoy the Felidae canned. And of course with 21 and the pee problems we are having I'm more than open to suggestions on that. All 21 have come from rescue situations and are all here for the long haul so we have to figure this out, for their sanity and ours. I just need some good info to point us in the right direction for these Furr Kids of ours. Thanks! and if there is anywhere else I could post for help please let me know- this is my first time posting. Thanks again!!

Wow you guys rock! So here is some additional info on the situation. In the past-prior to the uti's and the blockage in Moose-one of my big boys(20+ pounder!!His blockage is what cost us $500 of the $600 bill) We were feeding Meow Mix or Friskies Indoor. Here locally they run anywhere from $10-$15 for a 15-18 lb bag. That is what our vet told us probably caused the issues. We are in for spending more and have already stocked up on the Felidae wet-as I was able to get an amazing deal on it by the caseload-so far i have been able to purchase 216 cans for only $104. They get 4 cans in the morning and 4 cans at night, so the kibble is really for munching and for the kitties who just flat out don't like wet food. We're up for spending up to $30 per week for the kibble, but would love to see that be every other week-which from what I understand should be doable once they are eating less because a higher quality food will keep them fuller longer. This whole issue is really quite confusing because the vets just want to sell the prescription diets and the pet food shops what to usually sell they're most expensive products. So thanks for all the info so far and I will definitely look into all of the suggestions.
 

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Originally Posted by mlwslb78

Ok, so here it goes. We are feeding 21 strictly indoor kitties. We haven't been so great with the food we have been feeding them as we have just been feeding them kibble you can pick up Wally World. Well after $600 and two confirmed cases of struvite crystals we need a change. We followed the directions from our vet to keep those two on the the Hill's s/d formula until it's completion and had them rechecked to be sure we had cleared them up. All is now well with them, however we have some other kitties (litter mates) using our kitchen floor as their personal potty and any clothing they can get to. We both work outside of the home so unfortunately we can't tell who's got the issue. Anyway our vet recommended putting the whole household on a higher quality food to help prevent and help reduce any crystals in any other kitties. Which brings me here, I went to a local Mom and Pop shop that carries specialty brand foods and was told that Felidae is a great canned food for them to be on and she recommended Taste of The Wild for the kibble, I went to another Mom and Pop shop who recommended Orijen for the kibble. Again we have 21 and there is no option for splitting up the feedings. Can anyone please point me in a direction to head in. I am looking at three different foods for the kibble they are Taste of the Wild, Felidae, and Orijen. We need something that is going to stick with them, so that they don't blow through $25 plus per week on the kibble, and if anyone could recommend a different canned food I'm open to that too. They do however seem to enjoy the Felidae canned. And of course with 21 and the pee problems we are having I'm more than open to suggestions on that. All 21 have come from rescue situations and are all here for the long haul so we have to figure this out, for their sanity and ours. I just need some good info to point us in the right direction for these Furr Kids of ours. Thanks! and if there is anywhere else I could post for help please let me know- this is my first time posting. Thanks again!!
In a normal situation, I would say Orijen any day... However, with a history of Struvite Crystals, and potential UTIs in the house, I would not choose any of these three diets... The mineral levels are way too high for UTI prone kitties; it is just not safe... GREAT foods for healthy cats (I feed Orijen), but not for UTI cats... I am sorry to say, but I would stay away from a Grain free dry on that situation...
I would rather do something like Wellness: http://www.wellnesspetfood.com/cat_w...or_health.html, and give as much grain free (and fish free) wet as possible...
Another option, when feeding that many cats, if you have a Costco card, is their Kirkland food - very good for the cost...
I am sure you will receive a bunch of suggestions/advices - good luck!
 

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I agree with carolinalima, I would recommend orijen any day but not to a cat with crystal problems (in fact I just had this conversation in the pet store with a lady on the weekend). The guy in the petstore (who is amazing, does a lot of research and will only carry foods he agrees with, I think the lowest quality food he has is Nutro) recommended one of the Natural Balance foods if she had to feed dry, not as high quality but better for urinary health. Eventually he talked her into wet but it was just one cat - I can see how it would be cost prohibitive with 21.
 

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Hey welcome to the club! I have 26 barn cats + 5 that I am holding till they can find room for them at the shelter + 2 housecats. They cost about $8 dollars to feed a day with doing raw...close to the same as it did with the wet/dry mix.

Before I switched to raw I fed them Kirkland dry and Sophistacat wet food (cheaper than friskies + I think grainfree; you can get it from Petsmart).

I know you didn't ask this but I am guessing you go through a ton of litter. I use wood stove pellats as litter which is cheap + once used it turns into sawdust which I can just throw outside and it turns into dirt. Its about $5 for 40 lbs.
 

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Some Sophiticats are in fact grain free ... and low in veggies

western family , pets pride , some meow mix , sheba in the tins .... all have grain free , veggie free or low formulas and are reasonable
 

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Welcome to TCS!


I'm in a similar position, with 14 cats currently (plus 2 foster kittens). Several have had crystals, UTIs, & blood in the urine in the past. One has even blocked up.

It's not the highest quality, and I pay $20 for a 16 lb bag of Purina ONE Urinary Tract Health Formula. I've fed Wellness in the past, more specifically this formula, to some of my housecats. I switched foods as it was very expensive (I believe $35 for 12 lbs), they ate a ton of it, they pooped more, and one of them had a nasty coat. I have since switched them to Healthwise & we are still UTI free & looking good.

I'm afraid what it will come down to is what your budget is, what is locally available, and what works best for your kitties. I feed a mix of wet & dry food - as the wet helps prevent UTIs. I do use some Friskies formulas, as they have some that are UTI friendly, and I can get them locally.

I would most definitely avoid fishy foods, as they are not good for cats with urinary issues. Grain free drys are also not very good for cats with a history of urinary issues,
 

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here is my economy list of uti certified or within uti friendly guidelines

Sportmix
Diamond NATURALs
Pro pac
Nutro max - this is cliniacally tested and certified ..
Purina one and pro plan urinary - again clinically tested and certified
Royal canin - has one that is cerified but they keep changing names
Purina Naturals ( available at most grocery and big box stores ...
Healthwise
 

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Originally Posted by sharky

here is my economy list of uti certified or within uti friendly guidelines

Sportmix
Diamond NATURALs
Pro pac
Nutro max - this is cliniacally tested and certified ..
Purina one and pro plan urinary - again clinically tested and certified
Royal canin - has one that is cerified but they keep changing names
Purina Naturals ( available at most grocery and big box stores ...
Healthwise
I'm going to toss in I've had both dogs & cats develop UTIs when on Diamond Naturals, so I don't know that I think of them as UTI friendly. This was over a year ago, so they may have changed formula to become UTI friendly.
 

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Originally Posted by white cat lover

I'm going to toss in I've had both dogs & cats develop UTIs when on Diamond Naturals, so I don't know that I think of them as UTI friendly. This was over a year ago, so they may have changed formula to become UTI friendly.
Glad you brought it up... many foods react differently in different animals thus the more animals you have the harder time finding one food for all

that is why I noted the ones that are in FACT certified vs ones that fit the profile...
 
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