Laser Declawing

Originally Posted by tiberius709

I never said that I was going to get it done, I was asking a question and I got jumped on like I said I was going to.

I already said I am against declawing but I guess no one took time to read that.

This will be my last post and maybe a reminder that you guys should take the time and give suggestions to people and not make them feel like a child who's been scolded.

I'll figure out how to handle this issue by myself, but I thank the people who were kind enough to give me some suggestions to try.

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You asked us what we thought of laser declawing, and we have simply told you our opinions on declawing in general. If you want alternatives, look at Soft Paws. They are the best declaw alternative I've found. And if you want your cats to use a scratching post, you should start scratching it in front of them. They will want to emulate you. And if that doesn't work, rub some catnip on it.

Originally Posted by tiberius709

This will be my last post and maybe a reminder that you guys should take the time and give suggestions to people and not make them feel like a child who's been scolded.

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No one is scolding you, but you have to understand that were all here for the welfare of cats and the education on subjects such as declawing.

Were trying to help you see it from another angle.

Originally Posted by tiberius709

I never said that I was going to get it done, I was asking a question and I got jumped on like I said I was going to.

I already said I am against declawing but I guess no one took time to read that.

This will be my last post and maybe a reminder that you guys should take the time and give suggestions to people and not make them feel like a child who's been scolded.

I'll figure out how to handle this issue by myself, but I thank the people who were kind enough to give me some suggestions to try.

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Look, this was your first post:

already know that regular declawing methods are not the way to go, but was curious if anyone here had the laser declawing done on their cats?

I have been clipping their nails but honestly, I would prefer not to have to do this. I hate struggling with them and they use their back paws like weapons. lol

My vet actually will not perform any other method than laser so that is thankfully my only option. I really respect them for that as most vets will give you an option.

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Reading the bold parts, and considering the fact that you came here to ask for opinions and experiences, clearly shows that you were considering having this procedure done - you only said you were against the regular declaw...Kuddos to you for researching, but at the same time, where is the open mind to accept the facts?

When you put something out there, in a cats lovers board, where in the rules it is stated that we are against declaw... You will hear strong opinions... You will not hear what you want to hear if you are looking for approval. If that is what you want, than... HOWEVER -
We here know for a fact that declaw IS amputation, can result in serious psychological and physical damage, that might never ever be fixed for life, and we also know for a FACT that you LOVE your cats, and that is not what you want.
So, please open your mind, put your defenses aside, and hear us out, because that is what you came here for, right? NOBODY is judging YOU - we are all judging DECLAWING - there is a HUGE DIFFERENCE!
We are trying to give you solutions for your problem, and if you run away, you just might miss out on this opportunity...

Have you heard of Soft Claws?? They are a wonderful solution for declawing!!! SUPER easy to apply, they last like 4-6 weeks in the nails, and completely cover/protect furniture, your arms, everything!

I misspoke in my first post under the advice of my vet that this was not amputation.

Someone previously mentioned Softpaws and I looked and I actually love the idea.

I am not stupid, I know that declawing is bad and maybe I should have made my OP more clear.

I was considering it on the advice of my vet, which I now know from reading articles online that it's not a good choice at all.

I am going to order softpaws as I believe this is the best option for me.

Originally Posted by tiberius709

I am not stupid, I know that declawing is bad and maybe I should have made my OP more clear.

I was considering it on the advice of my vet, which I now know from reading articles online that it's not a good choice at all.

I am going to order softpaws as I believe this is the best option for me.

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We know your not stupid Here in the UK it's illegal, but from what i've heard from some of the US members is that vets offer the declaws while they do the spays or neuters, and because their vets some people take what they say as gospel when really their getting their pockets lined

If you do a search in the "Care and Grooming" forum on the soft paws you'll find lots of threads there about them, and besides they look gorgeous with bright pink nails!

Originally Posted by tiberius709

I misspoke in my first post under the advice of my vet that this was not amputation.

Someone previously mentioned Softpaws and I looked and I actually love the idea.

I am not stupid, I know that declawing is bad and maybe I should have made my OP more clear.

I was considering it on the advice of my vet, which I now know from reading articles online that it's not a good choice at all.

I am going to order softpaws as I believe this is the best option for me.

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Thank you for understanding how your post could have been mis-interpreted. We all care very deeply for our pets, as we know you do as well, obviously, or you would have just gone and had it done without asking for our input.

Vets make money on declaws and will offer it up as a bargain extra with spay/neuter. We are all praying for the day when declawing will be illegal in North America.

Even though we are against it, we also are aware that there are instances where it may be necessary for medical reasons, i.e., a compromised immune system of a cat owner is one good example. In cases like that it would be wonderful if that person adopted an already declawed cat from a shelter rather than declawing another poor animal.

Originally Posted by tiberius709

I misspoke in my first post under the advice of my vet that this was not amputation.

Someone previously mentioned Softpaws and I looked and I actually love the idea.

I am not stupid, I know that declawing is bad and maybe I should have made my OP more clear.

I was considering it on the advice of my vet, which I now know from reading articles online that it's not a good choice at all.

I am going to order softpaws as I believe this is the best option for me.

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See.... Aren't you glad you came here? I seriously have no clue why vets do this! I would be running to another vet! Gosh, my vet feels bad and tells my kitty "sorry honey" when he gives her an injection !
I am sooooooo happy you made your mind!!!! Soft claws are awesome! They are so easy to put it too!
Follow the instructions carefully, and voila - no problems for a month and 1/2!!!! and after that you just replace a nail at a time.... heaven sent!
good for you!

Originally Posted by Rosiemac

If you do a search in the "Care and Grooming" forum on the soft paws you'll find lots of threads there about them, and besides they look gorgeous with bright pink nails!

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I thought that was the best part I just think they would look so cute with bright pink nails... and my furniture wouldn't be getting all messed up!

Originally Posted by carolinalima

See.... Aren't you glad you came here? I seriously have no clue why vets do this!

I would be running to another vet! Gosh, my vet feels bad and tells my kitty "sorry honey" when he gives her an injection

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I am sooooooo happy you made your mind!!!!

Soft claws are awesome! They are so easy to put it too!
Follow the instructions carefully, and voila - no problems for a month and 1/2!!!! and after that you just replace a nail at a time.... heaven sent!
good for you!

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I didn't want to do it at all, I love my little girls and want nothing but the best for them. (i guess that's why I drive an hour to spend $50 on the best cat food for them lol)

I don't know why vets do it either, and I don'tk now why they tell people that it's the best choice and people like me will believe them. But luckily I'm a saavy web user.

Originally Posted by tiberius709

I thought that was the best part

I just think they would look so cute with bright pink nails... and my furniture wouldn't be getting all messed up!

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They also come in orange and black for Halloween, and green and red for Christmas.

i must apoligise i jumped down your throat without reading your post right

im thinking about soft paws for my two as they are not going to be living fwith me for a while so i dont want them to scratch and damage furniture at the (future)MIL's house

Now, when you get your soft paws we need pictures of your little divas showing off their bright pinkies, even better the red ones!, now that's a diva colour!

You must also understand I have literally killed hundreds of cats - declawed cats who have behavior issues to the point that it makes then unsafe to adopt out. And I bawl with every one of them - it's hard not to, when they are that way because their owner wanted to save their furniture. They didn't choose to be that way, they didn't get asked if they wanted to be mutilated.

Many times our posts come across as harsh, because so many times no matter what we say people do not listen - they declaw anyways - and come back later wanting help for behavioral issues caused by the declaw.

From your original post, I would have thought you were seriously considering declawing your kitty. I'd rather bombard you with info beforehand, than have to help you with the problems declawing can cause after the fact.

I have only raised 1 kitten into adulthood that I kept. She had to wear Soft Paws from about 6 months to 2 years - but she now understands to use the scratching post & I have no problems with her.

Originally Posted by tiberius709

I thought that was the best part

I just think they would look so cute with bright pink nails... and my furniture wouldn't be getting all messed up!

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I have a friend that keeps asking, do you really need those? I think NO, but I love it when they have the cute nails . I buy 4 differnt colors. Levi gets purple, Jordan gets blue, Isaac gets red & Maggie gets pink.

Actually, there is some laser surgery which stops the claw movement so they are not removed but not usable so if the OPs vet was suggesting this it isnt counted as an amputation but is still serious surgery. As for the OPs question on cost, laser declawing and tenectomies are more expensive than regular declawing but can vary a lot from vet to vet

Secondly, new research shows that increased biting after declawing is a myth, using false information just gives people a reason to answer back...

However, unless it really is your last resort, try soft paws, clipping short using gloves etc first.

Originally Posted by white cat lover

Many vets will not tell you it is amputating, or that it is a routine procedure. In fact, most vets perform several declaws every week...declaw is offered at the same time as spay/neuter regularly - at a discounted rate. It is hard to find a vet who doesn't declaw. Actually, in many countries declawing is illegal, believe it or not. Yet it is so commonplace in the US.

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wow whitecatlover. that's news to me. yikes. yikes because i look at vets as ultra-humane so reading this puts me in a very bewildered state! my vets never offered declawing and i never asked. penny & daisy still have their claws/paws and it will stay that way. also, the vets never provided any education to me on declawing either verbal or brochures - nothing. i learned about declawing on TCS!

Most vets offer it with spay/neuter here, even the low cost spay/neuter clinic

Originally Posted by c1atsite

wow whitecatlover. that's news to me. yikes. yikes because i look at vets as ultra-humane so reading this puts me in a very bewildered state! my vets never offered declawing and i never asked. penny & daisy still have their claws/paws and it will stay that way. also, the vets never provided any education to me on declawing either verbal or brochures - nothing. i learned about declawing on TCS!

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Not only do the offer it with the spay/neuter as if it is just a matter of course. I had one vet try to talk me into it stating he had very good pain control techniques. I do go to that clinic, but my kitties never go to that particular vet.

Originally Posted by icklemiss21

Secondly, new research shows that increased biting after declawing is a myth, using false information just gives people a reason to answer back...

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IMHO this is far far from a myth.... I would be interested in the source of these researches... It sounds to me they might be quite biased to say the least...
Also, saying that someone Like Nat who like she says, literally and personally participated in the euthanasia of hundreds of cats with behavioral problems directly derived of declawing are giving False information is quite unfair, and uncalled for, IMHO.

I work in a shelter just like Nat does, I see the cats with behavioural problems but unlike Nat, I get to see them sit in cages as person after person turns them down, but you know what, we have just as many with claws with behavioural issues and they sit there too.

I am not saying go ahead and declaw, but if people can find legitimate (and there is a lot of it recently) research to refute the claims made, they will ignore the whole argument of not declawing. My own vet who will not declaw unless for medical reasons even agrees that the newest research seems to have some truth to it, not that she has looked into it that deeply as she doesnt do declaws.

People say litterbox issues and biting are the main reasons for declawed cats ending up in the shelter, well the percentages of speutered (and therefore cared for at some point) cats who end up in the shelter with litterbox issues or biting issues is almost identical for the shelters around here. Most of those with litterbox issues have untreated UTIs and are fine once treated too.

I have a copy of the study at the shelter and would be happy to share, it still comes to the conclusion that in 95% of cases the declaw surgery was not needed and there was no reason why the cat could not be trained, have its claws clipped short or use soft claws so I dont see the bias in the study. It also found that declawed cats are less likely to be brought to the vet as they are seen as indoor only and therefore do not require shots etc/