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post #91 of 447
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Should I be concerned that she is depressed (if she is?) I don't want to break her spirit during this journey.

I decided to start reading in a spot closer to her - not scary close, but basically positioning myself across from her in the room, but me facing 90 degrees away from her (so not directly facing her). I know not to look her in the eye, but gosh it's hard not to. I do the slow blink if I do and look away, and I yawn, etc. She'll watch me for a while, then she'll close her eyes, start to drift off, then she'll put her head down and fully sleep in the carrier. She eventually got used to the page turning sound and was able to fully sleep even with slight noise. I don't know if that is more trusting of me or if she's just hoping I'll go away when she wakes up.

She's actually somewhat of a picky eater! She doesn't like the loaf style chicken anything (wet food). I'm still figuring out what brands and types of wet food to feed both cats but I know to rotate lamb/beef/turkey/chicken so they don't get finicky - but she seems to be finicky already.

Well, I just hope she's not getting depressed. I know she does explore the room, but I don't think she understands her toys, not sure about scratching posts. So she probably has long boring days of just wondering why she's imprisoned. Maybe I am sadder about this than she is, but I don't want her to die of depression, if that is possible.

I'm still trying to figure out tasty treats she likes. She isn't a nut for the usual things - doesn't like KFC.. doesn't like chicken baby food.. doesn't like the moist cat treats I got for her (she'll eventually eat the crunchy ones when I'm not around). So I'll just keep trying different things til I hit the jackpot.

Perhaps I should get one of those cat grass things? Something green and outside-like for her to nom on?? I'm up for any ideas.

We go to the vet again on Friday! It's been almost 4 weeks already.
post #92 of 447
So what happens Friday? You bringing a poop sample to make sure she's rid of worms? Distemper follow up? At this point.... if she's free of parasites, I'd consider thinking about working towards kitty intros. Not so much because she's ready to be out and about - but because her ability to watch you interact with Batman may help her along.

Because you have to take her to the vet Friday, I'd bring two wash clothes or clean rags or something, and wipe her all over with each. Put one under Batman's dry food dish, and use the other one to put treats out on for Batman when you're done with a play session or something. This gets him to start associating her smell with good things. And if you have a sweaty t-shirt under her food dish, then maybe start leaving treats out for her (if you've found any she likes) on the one that smells like Batman.

Our kitties never self-regulated on grass when we used to feed it to them, so we'd have to clip it and feed it to them. But you can always give it a try.

... her falling asleep while you were there and doing stuff is actually really good. It is a big trust hump.

...and as to a special treat, maybe try shrimp. It's not the greatest thing for cats, but in small amounts, it's not bad. Especially warm. If she doesn't got nuts for that... I don't know what to suggest! At this point, you really need food to lure her to interact with you, I think.

But yeah.... I think sleeping in there is a good idea. And maybe moving a little closer to her carrier each day when you go in there to read - see how she reacts. If it doesn't bother her, just keep going until you're next to the carrier! That is.... if you haven't found a treat to lure her out of there while you're in the room.

But if your vet thinks it's OK (I'm pretty sure it should be fine by now), I'd do that scent swapping thing for a few days... and then maybe consider starting intros. Is there a wand toy that Batman goes nuts for? Does he like being brushed? Because either playing with him a little bit in there or brushing and petting him in there if he's up for it may really help her along.
post #93 of 447
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Laurie, you are awesome. Thank you again for your help.

Friday's apt is that stuff plus I am going to get another combo test done and ask them if they need to test for giardia/anything on the poop aside from parasites. I read online that FIV/FeLV can incubate for 8-12 weeks. Which makes me nervous. I know she's been around other cats - I've seen cats (then don't see them again) in the neighborhood. I don't have a plan B at this point if shes does test positive so I'm hoping everything is still clear. I will talk to the vet about the incubation and if I need to go in again in another month! for Patches.

Great tips on the towel scent stuff! Yep I have shirts with my scent and my husband's by food so I can leave a Batman scented one there too. Batman is already very interested in her scent - he tries to get a sniff before I change clothes when I go in/out of her room. He actually sleeps by her door a lot too.

Shrimp! Great idea! I'll let you know how that goes, unless I eat it all.

I sat with her again last night and read. She actually curled up in the carrier and ignored me after a while, her head completely tucked in and relaxed. She'd pick up her head if I made too much noise turning a page, but fall back asleep. I guess that is good! I give her a handful of treats in front of the carrier whenever I'm in there and lately she hasn't been retreating back an inch when I do that. She doesn't seem terrified of me - she seems a bit indifferent and suspicious... It's frustrating she was getting trusting of me outside, but regressed inside - but I knew that would happen. Still am frustrated though

I know toys won't be her thing for a while - but I did have a little feather wand I was moving around and she was following it with her eyes. Not sure if that scared her of if she was intrigued. She didn't move farther back into the carrier - she just watched the feather.

I agree - her watching me interact with Batman has to be helpful. I hope that can happen sooner than later to help her adjust better - will find out on Friday if scent swapping is good after getting her checked out. Hopefully the vet will be less scared of her this time... But they'll ask if I touched her and I'll say no... then they'll be unsure how much they can handle her. We'll see how it goes!

I'll probably have a billion questions after the scent swapping about how to handle the intro I have read up on regular cat intros, but this will be a bit different. Not sure if Batman will play normally if he's in her room with me, for example. He may be too interested in exploring her digs and her, but I'll bug you about that later
post #94 of 447
I'm not going to have a lot of advice on that, because we never had the space to separate kitties for intros. Well - that's not exactly true. We lived in a house when we rescued Ming Loy, and we kept her in a separate room for all of a week. She wasn't scared of us (very young when rescued and had to stay at the vet for about a month before the vet gave her the all clear to come home - we have a kitty with an autoimmune disease). ...and the other kitties didn't bother with her, so we just opened the door and that was that.

Quick funny story. She ignored all the boxes and carriers and such we had in there, and slept under the cedar chest. She had to squish down and wiggle under there - and she'd go to the far end, near the door. We'd open the door and call "Where's Ming Loy?" and we'd hear this THUMP (as she hit the bottom of the cedar chest), and she'd come wiggling out and run over. When we opened the door, and brought her into our bedroom, she'd wander around exploring. We'd call "Ming Loy" and she ignored us. After a while, Gary and I looked at each other - and could tell we were thinking the same thing. We called "Where's Ming Loy?" - and she came running! It took a few weeks to switch her name - because she thought her name was "Where's Ming Loy" !

.... But yeah.... I can see Batman wanted to head straight for her carrier - and her hissing and swatting back at him, so not necessarily being a good thing.

I don't know if you want to go this far.... but what a number of people have done is to temporarily replace the door on the "separation" room with a screen door. This accomplishes a lot of things - kitty can hear the rest of the house better, resident kitty and new kitty can see and smell each other better (and you can guage reactions to how they interact through screen).... her interest in Batman or what goes on outside her room may perk up and she may sit at the door... or it may be scary, and she'll just stay in her carrier. But it would enable you to interact with him so that she can see it, but he can't get at her.

But one thing is for sure. Getting them familiar with each other's scent in a "positive" way with the food or treats on the "scented" clothes definitely won't hurt.
post #95 of 447
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Poor Patches. She had a ROUGH afternoon. I flipped all her hiding boxes upside down so she only had her carrier to hang out in for the past several days. It should've been a simple matter of closing the carrier... but... I didn't factor in the little handtowel that she was slowly pushing out of the carrier. So when I went to close the carrier, I couldn't... the little bar wouldn't go in the hole because the towel was blocking... so when I slowly tried to move the towel, she freaked out, darted past me - which startled me and I let out a girlish scream (which probably scared her) - and I got a couple minor scratches, and then poor Patches, jumped onto the nightstand, tried to climb up the window... and was just frantic. It was sooooooo sad. There was 1 little hiding area she found (in this fur lined cube I thought she was ignoring). So.. I got the towel out, then nudged her cube enough to encourage her to get out... (which made me feel awful...) and she got out, looked around, went to carrier... and then I finally had her. It was NOT GOOD and I knew it wasn't an easy start to a stressful vet trip. Next time... no towel in the carrier...

So at the vet, the vet assistant started opening up the carrier - and I'm like 'uhhh you may want to leave her in there until the vet is here to not freak her out' but she wanted her out... so poor Patches was just sitting on the bottom part of the carrier, no lid on, exposed, just shaking... the vet tech was going TO PET HER and I warned her not to.. I told her she was a former stray that I have not yet touched.. and I said I was worried she'd freak out and dart out of the exam room but she wanted her out. Please keep in mind everyone when walking into exam room got her life story up to this point in 30 words so I don't know why they wanted to pet her!!!!

The vet was awesome though... She and another lady got their gloves and towels and gave her a really good exam - and I was there for it this time. They of course wanted to pet the pretty kitty - Patches hissed. Not surprised.. but they wanted to try. However Patches did great with them... I mean, she was freaking out, but she was not ballistic. They kept telling me she was being wonderful too. They were able to check her teeth, her heart/lungs, temperature, everything - last time the team there was too uneasy about her to do that - these ladies were very gung ho. They said her lungs were a little wheezy but probably from the stress. Some plaque, but not bad. They said my 3 year guess seemed right on.

So the bad news is... they advised me to do a combo test 3 months after the first 1 - so that is February 4th. So 2 more months of full quarantine. I'd rather be safe than sorry though... although I have no idea what we would do if she WAS positive. If we had to keep her in a seperate part of the house, she might get depressed. Being a basement cat would stink... bedroom cat would stink... but I'm not going to think about that unless I have to!!!! So let's hope Patches is negative in 2 months

The other handler told me deals with ferals a lot - she compared them to possums. I didn't know what to think about that but she did say as far as Patches' disposition goes, she thinks she will come around soon enough. Everyone gushed over how pretty she was.

Anyways... so yeah, looks like Patches is stuck just hanging out with me for 2 more months. I know today was a bit set-back for her on trust... but since I wasn't actually touching her at the vet, maybe it won't be TOO bad. Will get some tasty shrimp this weekend and see if I can find her weak spot, although I'm sure tonight would not be a high probability of her coming out, after today's stress. Poor baby.

I'll keep you posted!

Laurie, that is hilarious Ming Loy's first name in his mind is "Where's" Maybe your signatures need updated with his full title
post #96 of 447
Oh poor you and poor Patches! Things like this happen, so don't (well, try not to) fret.

....can you talk to DH about maybe trying the screen door on the room? Sounds like a great (rather inexpensive) Christmas present, doesn't it?

Originally Posted by killerapple View Post
Laurie, that is hilarious Ming Loy's first name in her mind is "Where's" Maybe your signatures need updated with her full title
I love that story about her - it really is too funny!
post #97 of 447
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Originally Posted by LDG View Post
I love that story about her - it really is too funny!
Oops, I called her a he didn't I.

I did bring up the screen door idea to my husband. He seems open to looking into possibilities but said it would be a lot of work. He was thinking though - mentioned plexiglass too soooooo we'll see!

I'm leaving Miss Patches alone tonight other than food/etc. She ignored her wet food tonight but did use litter box - figure she's going to move as little as possible after her scare today. Poor little girl. Honestly though it could've been SO much worse. That's what I keep telling myself. She only hissed. She didn't do that scary low meow or spit or lash out, so maybe as bad as it was for her, she did not react that bad - more defensive and being scared than acting aggressive. And she's really healthy all things considered (living outside 2+ years!) So I'm trying to tell myself all of that over, instead of focusing on the awful scary experiences she went through.

We got her a Christmas stocking last weekend.

I'll let you know how the shrimp goes. I figure I'll wait a few days until she is less traumatized before I try that.
post #98 of 447
Originally Posted by killerapple View Post
I'll let you know how the shrimp goes. I figure I'll wait a few days until she is less traumatized before I try that.
Yeah, that's a good idea.

Thankfully all the vets around here are used to working with feral cats. If they're freaking, they just tranquilize them in the trap or crate. All of them have needles rigged on these long stick things for just that purpose. ..but really, most of the ferals we've ever taken in are SO completely freaked out, they just hunker down and go completely quiet. It's the semi-ferals - like Patches - that are the problem.
post #99 of 447
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Patches is finally "over" the vet visit. She was on a hunger strike the rest of the weekend, but she ate like a champ yesterday. We're on the 2nd Feliway diffuser now. So now that she's eating, I'll be gracing her with more of my presence and Operation Shrimp will be under way very soon. I will keep you posted
post #100 of 447
I don't even know what to suggest if she doesn't like shrimp! it'll be her "magic" food too.
post #101 of 447
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A couple nights ago when I went in (after knocking) she was actually sitting low to ground in front of the night stand table - exposed, not in a box. I sloooowwwwly sat down, got my book, read. She just stayed there. She did look VERY scared, but I am not completely sure if she was frozen in terror or was more trusting because she could've easily ran off and hid. She just stayed there and I ignored her and read. After 40 minutes, I did get up because it was getting late. I slowly moved over to a part of the room to do my cat-room chores, turned my back to her. She used that opportunity to quietly retreat into a box. I was then able to do litter box clean-up etc. (I didn't want to mess with litter and scare her.)

So I think that has to be a good sign? That she stayed out in the open that day.

Things are going slow. I wish she was eating her wet food but she's eating enough dry that it's probably ok. She doesn't like the pate style wet food at all. She's surprisingly very finicky about food. Also, last week I started transitioning her dry food to Wellness brand.

I am going to look into getting an inflatable air mattress so I can sleep in there without killing my back. I think that is the next step I need to do.

Batman figured out it IS possible for him to shove his paw under the door bottom if he goes in at the side where I didn't quite line up the plastic draft protector right... So I'm not sure if he terrorizes her at night. I did hear her playing with the door a few nights ago at like 3am. He used to sleep very close to her door - until we got the Christmas tree put up (now he sleeps under the tree all the time).

We'll see what happens when I start sleeping in there and busting out the shrimp. (I haven't put out shrimp yet still because I am not sure it's the right time.) I still put out a few treats for her whenever I go in there - she does eat them up when I leave, so hopefully that is helping with good association.

Will keep you posted!
post #102 of 447
At this point, I think letting Batman fish his paws around under there is fine. She's in control - and can choose to play or ignore.

....and I think her staying out was a good thing - like you siad, she could have gone and hid in her box.

I know it's frustrating.... but SO WORTH IT in the long run!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You're doing great - hang in there!
post #103 of 447
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She was dozing off again when I sat in there tonight reading.

When I was on my way out, closing the door, she was on her way out of her hiding box - she likes to look outside and see where I go. The other thing is - I leave her bedroom light on off all day. When I'm in there, it's on. So one of the last things I on my way out, is flip the switch - so the light in the hallway is on - and I think she looks to the direction of that light from hallway. She either wants out (probably definitely!) or is wondering what is out there or maybe wondering where I'm going? Not sure. But it does make me careful so she doesn't dart out.

She's tough. I just worry she's depressed. But one day at a time. She hasn't cried or anything. She was a little vocal outside. She cried for her 4th baby after we trapped him - it was awful.. She'd sit outside and cry. There were also a few nights where she'd stretch all out on the front porch and meow - waiting for dinner. She's just very cautious now, understandably, but I haven't made her hiss or gotten her to upset since the vet visit.

One day at a time!

We'll see how things go with the shrimp soon.

I just heard her jump off the furniture. I think she does go out and explore after I leave. Maybe she smells where I've been, who knows. I should hook up a webcam and see what she does

Edit: Thinking about the light thing.. I wonder if I should hang out there - with the lights OFF. With just the night lights on..? Maybe she'd feel more comfortable?
post #104 of 447
Try it one night and see!
post #105 of 447
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Last night I slept in Patches room. Nothing much to report though unfortunately. I am not sure she moved at all. Food/litter box untouched during night. I will say the sleeping bag is kinda loud and swishy so maybe that discouraged her from exploring when I was there. We'll have to see what happens on repeat nights.

Not a lot of encouragement coming from people I know, which makes me a bit upset to hear from people who I would hope would be supportive ("why don't you just make her indoor/outdoor?" "that poor cat being locked in that room for another 6 weeks???!"). But my husband is not being negative about it, at least. We are both looking very forward to the day where we can use Batman to interact with us to help her. We are thinking that in this situation, perhaps we need to do scent swapping then gradual intros as soon as her 2nd test is fine in February, then let her into rest of house. Perhaps her being able to watch the birds outside and have more of a place to explore will help her a lot. We have about 6 more weeks of "solitary confinement". Halfway there. Just that there is some progress before this!
post #106 of 447
I hope that I can give you some encouragement. I took in a feral cat that was about a year and a half. My vet, who was used to dealing with ferals, God bless her, told me that this was the wildest cat she had ever seen and that it would be best to just ear tip her and put her back outside. I just could not do it. There was no colony, she was alone in an industrial park.

To make a long story short, it took a very long time and a lot of patience, but now she is just part of my family. She is so sweet and loving. It did take years for her to get to this point. I kept trying everything I could think of to speed up the process.

Then one day I just decided that she was safe inside, she was warm and had access to food whenever she wanted and if necessary she would get medical attention. I just let her become part of the family on her timeline.

It sounds like it won't take that long with Patches. You have done a wonderful thing for her and the reward to you will be well worth it. Just hang in there, I was discouraged many many times. My husband used to tell me that the only way I could ever get near Gracie was if she died and I would have to carry her out of the house--that is how much she avoided me. You would never believe she is the same cat.

Please keep posting, I feel like I am sharing in your progress with her!
post #107 of 447
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Originally Posted by KRZ View Post
I hope that I can give you some encouragement. I took in a feral cat that was about a year and a half. My vet, who was used to dealing with ferals, God bless her, told me that this was the wildest cat she had ever seen and that it would be best to just ear tip her and put her back outside. I just could not do it. There was no colony, she was alone in an industrial park.

To make a long story short, it took a very long time and a lot of patience, but now she is just part of my family. She is so sweet and loving. It did take years for her to get to this point. I kept trying everything I could think of to speed up the process.

Then one day I just decided that she was safe inside, she was warm and had access to food whenever she wanted and if necessary she would get medical attention. I just let her become part of the family on her timeline.

It sounds like it won't take that long with Patches. You have done a wonderful thing for her and the reward to you will be well worth it. Just hang in there, I was discouraged many many times. My husband used to tell me that the only way I could ever get near Gracie was if she died and I would have to carry her out of the house--that is how much she avoided me. You would never believe she is the same cat.

Please keep posting, I feel like I am sharing in your progress with her!
Aww thanks KRZ It's wonderful getting support here. I always get frustrated when people who don't know anything about this type of stuff almost try to crush my sense of hope about this whole thing. I just need to keep my chin up!

Wow, that's a wonderful story about your kitty!! I will keep that in the back of my mind on bad days. I know I need to not worry about Time. I know there's not a timeline with things since each kitty is different but the only time issue I have is just worrying she is depressed. I do think she will be a bit happier once she can watch the birds and things. I am really hoping Batman will be good for her. We did see her with other kitties outside and she seemed to get along fine with them so hopefully it won't be too hard of an introduction. Batman will still be a kitten when they do re-meet (since Patches is his mommy!)

I sort of turned this thread into a blog about her I'll keep updating unless there is absolutely nothing going on. Thanks again!
post #108 of 447
Here is some inspiration, when you have the time.

Sweetie, I am SO sorry this thread is gone (lost in a TCS crash in Dec 2004), because the hardest, most frustrating parts of Penguin's socialization are lost. That said - Jana found the first post of the original thread in google archives. When you have a lot of time - or maybe start, and read it in parts... here is the "Pengy" thread, part 2. By this time, she'd gotten the advice to let her have the option to leave the room - meaning the other kitties could get into the room. Sadly, I don't remember the process.

But I'm sure that once the 6 weeks are up and you have the all clear from the vet, I think Batman intros will really help speed things along. I don't know how slow I'd go, though I'd definitely do scent swapping.

BTW - have you asked DH about temporarily changing the door to the room with a screen door? If the door is a standard size, it really should be just a matter of buying a screen door (if you can afford it and have some place to set the regular door for a while), and lifting the door off the hinges and putting on the screen door.

Start with the google archive of the original post - here: http://www.thecatsite.com/forums/sho...&postcount=304

...and then go back and start the part 2 of the thread at the beginning - remembering that the original thread had been going on for 6-8 months or so. You'll see from the date on the first post of the Part II thread (Dec 2004)that she'd trapped and brought Pengy inside almost a year before.

...and here is a thread, July 2005, with the first pictures Michele (noni) took of Pengy: http://www.thecatsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57456

....and I very much doubt she's depressed. She may be bored - but she's not terrified in a cage, and she's not freezing or wet - and though the process is slow, she's gonna be one happy kitty.
post #109 of 447
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Aw, thanks Laurie for digging up those threads!!! Looks like I have some reading to do - thank you! I love reading these stories.

I did talk to my husband about the door. Next time we go to Home Depot, we will take a look. To be safe, I probably should not use a screen door in case she would have something transmittable with saliva. I wish there was no such thing as FLV/FIV. Odds are she will be ok, but I'm not thinking about that test - just glad the time is flying by.

I have 3 pouches of different treats for her. Every time I go in, I put a few by her. I put them where she's hanging out - so my hand does get a foot or so away from her. I can tell she does tense up a bit but I've only made her hiss 2 times from that so far (and both times I just was moving too fast, just realized too late). She always eats the treats later (not in front of me).

She hasn't touched wet food in the past couple weeks. It can't be the type - I rotate all the time between flavors, textures, and brands and Batman gobbles every bite up (I split a 6oz can between the 2). She's eating enough dry that it's not a nutritional concern, but geez, she sure is picky for a former outside kitty. Might be some tortitude.

This is not a flattering picture but I took this a week or so ago. (I was not looking at her straight on taking it - I held the camera to my side to take it.) Every 4 days or so, she changes her 'favorite spot'. The room set-up is pretty good for her now - lots of hiding places I think so she can feel secure.

I think the hardest part is not looking her in the eye and not feeling like there is no hope for her to be happy. I don't care about me being happy - I just care about her being happy. If I wanted another cat like Batman, I would've just adopted from a shelter and not taken her inside. (I have to watch that I don't start saying "but she was SO HAPPY OUTSIDE!!!!!" That said - I have NEVER considered her going back outside. It's just a negative thought that creeps into my mind. She's stuck inside with me. )

I had neighbors growing up that had about 8 feral rescues they would find around work. I took care of the kitties when they went on vacation. They had about 4 cats that lived in basement (which had a nice patio view to watch birdies, which we unfortunately don't have) and 3 that were upstairs only and 1 that could go both ways. 2 looked the same - and some of the friendly ones would try to go in and out of basement and I would have to make sure I wouldn't let any in/out because one that started fights and was stuck on 1 floor looked a lot like the one that could go both ways I never saw half of those kitties. I always tried to - I'd go looking for them, not knowing any better. If she ends up like those kitties, I'd be happy. They had a good life.

One day at a time. Many more slumber nights in her room
post #110 of 447
I'd call the vet - but I'm pretty sure you don't need to worry about transmission of FIV/FeLV through a screen door. I'm sure it's possible, because it is saliva transmission - but I'm pretty sure it's so unlikely it really needn't be a worry. I think her being able to see out there - and Batman and her see and smell each other easily - may go a long way to making their intros a lot easier when it's time.
post #111 of 447
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We took a look at screen doors at Home Depot last night. It may be tricky - if we put on the hardware wrong, there's a chance she could bolt out of room while doorway is open - but we are going to look into this after the holidays. I will call vet about transmission. When I first caught her, they advised to have a towel over her trap and put Batman in another room during transport in case she would sneeze and something could get passed. I would think hiss/spit would be the same case but maybe that was just respiratory infection worries, not FLV/FIV. I will call.

Speaking of hissing... I finally put a radio in there for classical music. It was a long time coming. The past 2 times I have put treats out, she has hissed at me! She never did that before unless I moved too fast. I hope the music isn't scaring her. She had only hissed at me a couple times before in the past 6 weeks - and now I get 2 hisses in a row. I will turn down the volume and see if that helps (it's not blasting, but it's not super quiet either).

She transitioned fine to her Wellness brand dry. She is offered wet food as well but so far she's been Miss Picky.
post #112 of 447
I have to laugh at her being Miss Picky. All of our kitties are - and always have been - amazingly picky eaters!

About the classical music... Some classical music isn't all that calming. Hmmm... do you have a way to play CDs instead? You could try these:


....and sometimes the hissing is actually a good thing. It means she's getting more comfortable that it's "her" space.
post #113 of 447
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Turned radio off and no more Miss Hissy Kitty.

Someone very kind from TCS is sending me one of the kitty music CDs. I'm so excited to have Patches listen to it!! I will post how that goes.

We gave Batman his Christmas present today - this HUGE "rat" toy. He had carried it upstairs and put it outside her door.

Merry Christmas, everyone!
post #114 of 447
Merry Christmas!

And how sweet! Both of the elf for Patches.... and Batman to want to share his gift!
post #115 of 447
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Last night, Patches was making some noise upstairs (we could hear her jumping around and what not) and Batman jumped off the couch and ran up the stairs to investigate. He is very curious about what's in the room. He'll lay outside her door sometimes. I wonder if they interact when I'm not around.

I'll keep you posted about the screen door possibility.

Nothing else to report! Hope everyone had a nice Christmas
post #116 of 447
I think it's great he's interested and not upset!
post #117 of 447
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I agree - no puffed tail or anything from Batman. I understand that may all change the first time he sees her. I am optimistic that they will be good for each other down the road.

Patches ate very well yesterday - the most she's eaten actually since she's been inside!

I read in the room, with myself at a 90 degree angle from her so she could see me but I wasn't facing her. I would look over every now and then and she would be dozing off. I must be boring. She used to tense up a bit when I would be getting comfortable sitting down, stretching out my legs, etc, but she seems to not be as concerned anymore.

What are thoughts on Rescue Remedy? Is that something I should consider or not right for this situation? (I have Feliway diffuser for her room and I ordered some spray for when she gets to rest of house, but realize a 2nd diffuser may work better.)

She has 2 litter boxes in the room with the same litter - they're right next to each other. She only uses the original litter box. (2nd one was added a month later.) Even when we went out of town for 2 days, she only used the original box. This is a non-issue right now of course, but it is interesting and I wonder why.

Anyways, that is all!
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It sounds to me like Batman is "wooing" Patches!!!! This could be the beginning of a great romance!
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Originally Posted by esrandall2000 View Post
It sounds to me like Batman is "wooing" Patches!!!! This could be the beginning of a great romance!
I sure hope not - they are mother and son!!

I'm hoping they end up buds and I can buy this lovely print and hang it in the house (that said, I have no idea what it says, but I like the print..)

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Nothing too exciting, but a couple times in the last 24 hours hours when I've left Patches room, she ends up walking a bit out of her retreat box so she can watch me leave the room. This only happens at night when the light from the hallway shines in (and her room is dark) but she's curious nonetheless.

Her blankets are getting washed so some of her hiding areas (blankets over tables, etc) are gone so she was a bit more exposed tonight when I read with her. Nonetheless, she fell asleep with me there. She seemed uneasy at first, like usual, but then got more relaxed, in a more comfy position, then started drifting off after a few minutes of watching me.
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