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Possible breeds of these puppies?

post #1 of 33
10/11/09 at 4:59am
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We have a dog in the shelter and are not sure what (dominant) breed she is either

This is the mom and puppies at 3 weeks









Mom


She is a medium size - according to the different vets she has seen and people who have seen her, Hound, Collie and a load of different breeds could be the dominant

The pups however are huge, they have grown a lot this week and are easily the size of the 6 week old German Shep / Beagle X puppies we had a few weeks ago already at 3-4 weeks (the pics are from earlier this week and they have grown lots since then too)

Any ideas?
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post #2 of 33
10/11/09 at 8:13am
the puppies to me look shepard /saint .. mom looks shepard / collie or lab to me
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post #3 of 33
10/11/09 at 9:29am
At our shelter right now we have 2 Collie/Saint Bernard X and they look alot like those puppies, especially the tan and white.
First glance at that mom and I thought shep/collie/corgi!
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post #4 of 33
10/11/09 at 3:38pm
Its so hard to tell with puppies compared to adult dogs. I'm guessing some kind of St. Bernard or Rottie in them - they are all different so its very hard to guess at this point.
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post #5 of 33
10/11/09 at 3:57pm
The mother is obviously VERY mixed. As muttly as they come .

The tan one with a black face (in the background of the second pic) looks like a Boxer mix. The one in the first pic, the one in the third/fourth pic and the one in the background of the fourth pic look very German Shepherd-y. The one in the foreground of the second pic looks like it has a lot of Collie in it. Though it's hard to tell at that age.

Puppies in the same litter can have different fathers, too (if the mother mated with more than one male), so they might not all be the same mix.

I think they will all grow up to be my favorite breed----big hairy mutt . They're very cute.
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post #6 of 33
10/11/09 at 4:26pm
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Originally Posted by Willowy View Post
The mother is obviously VERY mixed. As muttly as they come .

I think they will all grow up to be my favorite breed----big hairy mutt . They're very cute.


That's about as mixed up as I've seen in a while. I see rottie, lab, boxer, shepard, hound and a lot more in that family.

My mom called this type of dog "Heinz 57 Variety". My dad called them "The Postman's Daughter". I call them cute.
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post #7 of 33
10/11/09 at 4:32pm
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Originally Posted by Momofmany View Post


That's about as mixed up as I've seen in a while. I see rottie, lab, boxer, shepard, hound and a lot more in that family.

My mom called this type of dog "Heinz 57 Variety". My dad called them "The Postman's Daughter". I call them cute.
They are the best kind The mom looks like a sweet girl. Poor thing for having to push out those huge puppies
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post #8 of 33
10/11/09 at 7:37pm
Mom reminds me of a dog I fostered named Annie. We never could figure out what she was other than a sheperdy mutt.
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post #9 of 33
10/11/09 at 8:57pm
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Originally Posted by white cat lover View Post
Mom reminds me of a dog I fostered named Annie. We never could figure out what she was other than a sheperdy mutt.
Yeah but you know how all the shelter software makes you enter a breed?

I thought she looked like she had Corgi in her but she is bigger than that so we went with Hound / Corgi mix as they were both on different pieces of paperwork

But the puppies

They are so cute, they are at that snorty age. Unfortunately we dont have a foster for her so they have grown up in the shelter. The tan/buffish and white one is my absolute fave - he is like a little piggy
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post #10 of 33
10/11/09 at 9:06pm
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Originally Posted by icklemiss21 View Post
Yeah but you know how all the shelter software makes you enter a breed?
Oh I would die if they finally made "mutt" or "heinz 57" an option! Sometimes they are just plain old mutts!

If all else fails - you can just call them "Lab mixes".
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post #11 of 33
10/12/09 at 5:55am
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Our regular one is German Shep X but we ran into problems with it before because our software prints our free insurance document and the vet they took the dog to disagreed with whatever breed we put in and the insurance co wouldnt pay because 'it wasnt the same dog'.
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post #12 of 33
10/12/09 at 6:17am
I think I'd use a Shepherd mix for a "breed" rather then a Lab mix - they really don't look much like Labs and there are so many of those anyway.

I agree - the little (or big) cream/tan and white is my fav of the group.
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post #13 of 33
10/12/09 at 7:29am
The puppies look like German Shepard crosses.



The Mother looks like a German Shepard X Australian Cattle Dog.

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post #14 of 33
10/12/09 at 9:20am
The mom IMO looks like Shepherd/Akita/Border Collie

I'd call the puppies Shepherd mixes.
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post #15 of 33
10/12/09 at 4:38pm
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Thats what we originally thought (German Shepherd). However at 4 weeks they are already the size of 7-8 week old German Shepherd puppies so their size will play some part in our adoption decisions
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post #16 of 33
10/14/09 at 7:35pm
I see some Akita in the mom,and the one pup
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post #17 of 33
10/15/09 at 9:59am
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Originally Posted by icklemiss21 View Post
Thats what we originally thought (German Shepherd). However at 4 weeks they are already the size of 7-8 week old German Shepherd puppies so their size will play some part in our adoption decisions
I had a shepherd/husky who when she was a puppy was unusually large. The vet wasn't at all surprised. The puppies do have that shepherd look going on; as for mom... I found that you'll tell a lot from how she moves. As I'm sure you know, the different breeds have their own way of carrying themselves (angle of the tail, head, the way they jog etc). I'd have a close look at that as well as her very pretty face.
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post #18 of 33
10/15/09 at 12:40pm
The Mom sure is hard to tell, but that 2nd pup screams St. Bernard to me.
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post #19 of 33
10/15/09 at 1:31pm
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Originally Posted by Willowy View Post
The mother is obviously VERY mixed. As muttly as they come .
Puppies in the same litter can have different fathers, too (if the mother mated with more than one male), so they might not all be the same mix.
I think they will all grow up to be...----big hairy mutt . They're very cute.
This was my total reply
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post #20 of 33
10/15/09 at 2:50pm
Definitely some akita in mom, I don't see BC *maybe* ACD.

However, the first puppy looks JUST like madison who is BC x Dobi .

The dark brown one with the black muzzle looks like a mastif X



GOOD LUCK!!!

Puppies are SO hard to tell! I'd say it's better just to let them grow up, then start guessing - but that doesn't work when you're trying to find them good homes
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post #21 of 33
10/17/09 at 8:22pm
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The vet says they have a lot of Akbash in the area she was rescued and thinks a lot of the size may be coming from that, but not the colour. She also says they are too big for Shepherds. At 4.5 weeks with the exception of the black one they are all 10lbs+, the black one is about 1lb smaller than the other three despite being the biggest at birth

Oh and they have names now
Tigger


Piglet (and he is a piglet at almost 11lbs)


Winnie playing with Tigger




and Roo


and their first meal of puppy food

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post #22 of 33
10/19/09 at 8:17am
Id say shepard mix, the black muzzle looks to be mastiff and considering how big the puppies are its not a far fetched thought for the father to have mastiff in him. The mom looks like shepard and corgi. Shes very petite....But those pups def have some large breed in them..I would think it would be safer for the puppies to do like a shepard mastiff mix type deal. Too bad you cant just put Heinz 57..LOL..

But they are soooooooo darn cute!
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post #23 of 33
10/19/09 at 10:36am
Wrong colour for Akbash maybe but not Karabash! If there are lots of Anatolians it's very possible there are Karabash as well.
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post #24 of 33
10/20/09 at 4:43am
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Originally Posted by bean View Post
Wrong colour for Akbash maybe but not Karabash! If there are lots of Anatolians it's very possible there are Karabash as well.
We have rescued quite a few Akbash from the area so not impossible for there to be other Anatolian breeds. We do have Anatolian in the computer so I think I will use that - I want people to be aware of the size these puppies will be before coming in to meet them. Once you see them, you fall in love and it wont matter even if it really isnt 100% suitable. We have had so many people apply for puppies who work 10 hours a day and live in apartments etc so it would be nice to cut down on the denied application time with this group.

This week we had 8 week old Britney Spaniel X and 7 week-old Shepherd X puppies and a 14 week old Pug - you really see how big these puppies are when you have another to compare it to.
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post #25 of 33
10/20/09 at 4:45am
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I am in the shelter today so will take new photos of the little piggies
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post #26 of 33
10/21/09 at 6:47am
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Tigger


and to give you an idea of his size


Winnie


Roo


and Piglet


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post #27 of 33
10/21/09 at 9:31am
i see anatolian is these lovely babies
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post #28 of 33
10/28/09 at 10:26am
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Well they are all on hold for people who realise how big they will be. Their weights were up to 14lbs at 6 weeks so it will be interesting to see how big they grow
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post #29 of 33
10/28/09 at 10:41am
Hmm...I see lots of different things in each puppy. There's a little bit of lab, perhaps anatolian or akita as well. The third puppy's coloration and build also makes me guess that there may be burmese mountain dog in him?

I honestly don't know...sorry if I was not much help. But they are cuties, and most likely will be large one day. And sweet
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post #30 of 33
11/2/09 at 4:06pm
OMG! Look at those little butterballs!!! Soooooo cute!!!!
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