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H1N1 vaccine.........will you,or won't you

post #1 of 172
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be getting it?Have your children get it?
I am faced with a dilema,that I'm not really sure about.I've read ALOT about the shot--and am still quite up in the air about.Not sure on what to do about it.
Here is my dilema.......my kids primary Dr. informed me today,that my two youngest sons have to get it.They really don't have much of a choice about it.
Little background-------both have asthma and are on Singulair.Both have inhalers,and both have to use nebulizers FREQUENTLY!!!
Seth for those of you that remember,back in 2007 had pnemonia.It went QUICKLY from that to Pluerral Effusion.Which required a surgury on his right lung to scrape the infection off of it.And several days in the PICU unit.
BOTH boys get sick ALOT! Every time we turn around,they are sick with upper respiratory issues,Bronchitis,etc.
It is required that ALL members in my household get the flu shot every year.Seth also has to get the pnemonia shot every 5 years.(which we are sure to do)
I am just so concerned about this new shot.It hasn't been out for long, it has some mercury in it.
I'm just scared about the possible side effects.But, at the same time--don't want the kids to get that junk.
So, if you were in my shoes----what would you do?
what are you thinking about the shot yourself?
In the end, I will do what is best for the kids.....I just want some opinions on this....if for nothing else---than to ease my mind some.
post #2 of 172
I'm getting it. Ordinarily I wouldn't worry about flu vaccines when I'm in the lab most of the day and not exposed, but I have been so sick lately with my unknown illness that its a) not worth risking more time off and b) not worth risking getting very ill when my immune system is probably already pretty compromised.

I don't really think that there will be severe reactions particularly due to this vaccine. All vaccines carry risks, very few people ever actually succumb to anything due to a vaccine.
post #3 of 172
My preggo board is debating this issue. I am up in the air on what to do.
I know one lady who had to b/c her husband just had double kidney transplant.

ETA:
Dh isn't for it.
post #4 of 172
A lot of people- mostly kids and pregnant women had it already with no side effects. I dunno, from what you describe I'd get it. I'm not getting it for myself, I never get any flu shots anyway but I have no reason to get it.
post #5 of 172
I don't have to worry about it since I'm pregnant; but I really don't know that I'm ok with getting any vaccine thats so new. My cousins were really upset because all healthcare workers in New York state are required to get it; so they all have to.

I guess in your shoes and since you said they get sick often: do you see your kids as more likely to catch this flu or more likely to have a reaction to the vaccine because it's new?
post #6 of 172
I have to get it because my asthma will be severe if I getthe flu.
They did give me a choice.
post #7 of 172
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I'm not sure.To be honest, that is part of my problem.
I do worry about them getting the flu.But, the mercury is the biggest issue I have.
My Mom pointed out,that fish has mercury in it.And that it is really no different than the HPV vaccine that my Daughter got.
So, I just don't know.
I'm going to talk to my hubby when he gets up.And see what his view is about this.
post #8 of 172
I'm pretty certain my doctor will insist I get both flu shots because of my COPD.
post #9 of 172
I'll get it, if I can, when it's available to my demographic.

The good news, I may have some immunity to it already, since I was born before 1957.
post #10 of 172
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talked to hubby.He is just as confused as I am about it.
On one hand,the flu would more than likely put one or both in the hospital.
And on the other,we have the concerns about the mercury in it.
post #11 of 172
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talked to hubby.He is just as confused as I am about it.
On one hand,the flu would more than likely put one or both in the hospital.
And on the other,we have the concerns about the mercury in it.
The mercury is the same as it always is in the regular flu vaccine. The vaccine is being made by the same companies in the same way as the normal vaccine always is.
post #12 of 172
Won't. I'm terrified of needles and don't volunteer to get them. Long time ago, my dad got us all flu vaccines and that year I got the flu! Haven't had them since and no flu - just a few bad colds at times.

I'll take my chances - know where I'm going when leaving earth anyway
post #13 of 172
There's a really good FAQ from WebMD here - http://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/fe...lu-vaccine-faq

This is what it says about the mercury:

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Tiny doses of a mercury compound called thimerosal keep multidose vials of flu vaccine safe from contamination with bacteria. Before thimerosal was added to multidose vials, contamination caused serious adverse events.

Exhaustive studies fail to find any reason to believe that thimerosal is unsafe. But if you don't want thimerosal, you don't have to have it. Single-dose syringes of flu vaccine don't need thimerosal and don't have any. Neither does the FluMist nasal spray vaccine.

If you prefer a thimerosal-free vaccine, check with your provider to see if one is available. If not, check with your state or local health department to see where you can find one.
I'll be getting it.
post #14 of 172
Yes, I'll be getting it!
post #15 of 172
My SIL is a PA and she and her daughters will only be receiving the regular flu shot. She doesn't feel there has been enough testing done with the vaccine.

We haven't had a chance to really talk in length about why she feels this way. So I have tons of questions about her opinion.

My youngest son was diagnosed with H1N1 two weeks ago and I don't know if it's necessary for the rest of us to get the shot or even if it would do any good at this point.
post #16 of 172
Nope, My husband and I won't be getting the flu shot. I haven't had the flu since 1990 and I don't get flu shots. I don't trust the ingredients.
post #17 of 172
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Nope, My husband and I won't be getting the flu shot. I haven't had the flu since 1990 and I don't get flu shots. I don't trust the ingredients.


Although I can't speak for Kieran.
post #18 of 172
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Well, today my Daughter,oldest Son, and I all got our regular flu shots.Next week, my two younger sons will get theirs.They couldn't get it today--because as usual,they are sick.BOTH have Bronchitis,and are on antibiotics.
I am going to talk at length with the kids Dr,and discuss my fears.I doubt he will say anything bad about it.*rolls eyes* And will push the shot on my youngest 2 sons.
Thanks for sharing everyone.
Please keep your opinions coming.I am intrigued by everyones views on this shot.
post #19 of 172
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My SIL is a PA and she and her daughters will only be receiving the regular flu shot. She doesn't feel there has been enough testing done with the vaccine.

We haven't had a chance to really talk in length about why she feels this way. So I have tons of questions about her opinion.

My youngest son was diagnosed with H1N1 two weeks ago and I don't know if it's necessary for the rest of us to get the shot or even if it would do any good at this point.


How is your son doing? I hope he is recovered by now.
post #20 of 172
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Originally Posted by snosrap5 View Post
My SIL is a PA and she and her daughters will only be receiving the regular flu shot. She doesn't feel there has been enough testing done with the vaccine.

We haven't had a chance to really talk in length about why she feels this way. So I have tons of questions about her opinion.

My youngest son was diagnosed with H1N1 two weeks ago and I don't know if it's necessary for the rest of us to get the shot or even if it would do any good at this point.
I hope he is doing better now.What kind of things were you told to do for him? that he is better,and that none of the rest of you get it
post #21 of 172
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Nope, My husband and I won't be getting the flu shot. I haven't had the flu since 1990 and I don't get flu shots. I don't trust the ingredients.
I don't get flu shots, and can't remember when I last had the flu (if ever). Also don't trust it.
post #22 of 172
China has been administering the vaccine for weeks without anybody experiencing any severe side effects, and several other countries are now inoculating children, also with no trouble. As Mike said, it's really no different from the customary flu vaccine.

As a teacher who takes public transport every day, I'm exposed to a lot of different people and germs every day, so will definitely be getting the shot, not just to protect myself, but those I have contact with.
post #23 of 172
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How is your son doing? I hope he is recovered by now.
He has recovered very nicely. Thank you for asking.

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I hope he is doing better now.What kind of things were you told to do for him? that he is better,and that none of the rest of you get it
His doctor put him on tamiflu but it's not as effective after the first 24 to 48 hours of your first symptoms. Jordan first started showing signs of the flu early Saturday morning and I didn't make an appointment until that Monday. So we were right on the bubble.

Jordan's main complaint was the body aches. His head, neck and back being the worst. Trying to stay on top of the fever was the hardest part for me. Motrin and Tylenol helped with that as well as his body pain.

Mainly his doctor stressed lots of fluid and lots of rest. Rest rest and more rest were his words.

His fever, cough and body aches were gone around the 4th or 5th day. He hasn't gained back the 5 pounds he lost and he still comes home from school completely worn out some days.

If you were to ask Jordan what he thought was the worst thing about having the flu, he would tell you the swabbing up the nose. He actually thought they were trying to touch his brain.
post #24 of 172
Personally I think flu shots and other types of vaccines should be mandatory!

People say they opt out because it's their personal choice and because they don't trust the ingredients and have fears of autism etc. etc.

Yes, it is your personal choice under the rights and freedoms acts. However, all of the other excuses as to not getting vaccinated are just playing into the fear mongering. Unfortunately the fear mongerers are the ones that shout the loudest and despite not being right IMHO, are the ones whose opinions many people dwell on so that they don't "hear" and "see" the benefits of vaccinations, and weigh the actual risks vs. rewards of being vaccinated vs. not being vaccinated.

Those that don't get the flu shot, not only put themselves at risk, but they also put other people at risk too, which IMHO is very selfish. There is a certain age limit to get a vaccine. Those under the age limit are highly susceptible to becoming ill when in contact with someone who is sick.

I saw an episode of Law & Order where a Mother was put on trial for manslaughter because she refused to get her kids vaccinated for measles or something, and her kid infected a number of children who were not old enough to be vaccinated, at a play ground leading to the death of a child. Her selfish choice not only caused her child to become sick, but also caused another child to die because while she opted out of getting her kid vaccinated, she didn't make him live inside a bubble so that he couldn't infect anyone else if and when he did get sick.

People don't seem to stop and think about everyone they come into contact with, and just think that opting out affects them. Well it doesn't!

Your little cough may be the start of something big and while you are in the infectious stage you are passing it around to lots of others who may not have been vaccinated as yet or are too young to be vaccinated.

There is no such thing as "just the flu." There is no cure for a flu because it is a virus. Flues are more virulent and deadly. There have been huge pandemics of flues in the past that have lead to deaths of hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people. We're on our way towards that again. This HINI flu has shown that. Otherwise healthy people, young people, are being hit with it and ending up on life support within a couple of days of being infected. Some can't be extubated and die! Young, otherwise healthy people!!! Not old people who have one foot in the grave already....healthy, young vibrant people....middle age adults, young adults, teens, and even children who have no other health factors that put them at risk of dying from "just the flu."

However, there is a way to prevent another 1918 flu pandemic from happening. Flu vaccines!

I don't have kids. But I sure know that I would never ever risk their health and life because I listened to fear mongerers. I would do whatever I could to keep them healthy and alive and prevent them from getting sick. Vaccines!
post #25 of 172
I have a question for those parents who refuse to get their kids vaccinated with the HINI vaccine.

Given how this is a very virulent strain of the flu and people of all ages have been dying.

Would you knowingly put your child into a closed room with a group of people who are infected with HINI, knowing that there is a good chance your child will get it, and possibly end up in the hospital and even die from it?

God! I hope everyone says no to that.

And if the answer is no, stop and think that not getting your child vaccinated is doing just that!
post #26 of 172
There are good reasons my brother refers to children as "disease distribution units."
post #27 of 172
There is fear-mongering on both sides. H1N1 is just another strain of flu and it's being over-blown IMO. The "regular" flu kills folks every year as well but you don't hear the big noise made about that.

We shouldn't be advised to get flu shots based on TV shows either. Some folks will already have antibodies against this H1N1 virus and others (just like with the regular flu) will be susceptible.

Again, common sense comes into play. If, like me, you have a lung disease/weakness, then the flu shot is probably an excellent idea and I've been advised by the experts at the hospital last year that I need to get the flu shot every year and the pneumonia shot every 5 years. When I was younger and healthier I did not get the flu shot as I didn't feel I needed it.

The H1N1 shot is no more dangerous than the regular flu shot IMO and should not be made out to be anything more.

There has already been much too much mis-information and hype about this whole issue if you ask me. We should be asking our health care professionals - they are the ones with the correct information for us to make an educated decision.
post #28 of 172
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Would you knowingly put your child into a closed room with a group of people who are infected with HINI, knowing that there is a good chance your child will get it, and possibly end up in the hospital and even die from it?
We send our kids to school every day KNOWING that H1N1 has hit our state and our county! We do this every day!
post #29 of 172
Yep, we'll all be getting it... Me and both my daughters ages 13 and 9.

I've had the flu once in my life, and hope I don't get it again, and HOPE my kids never get it. I wouldn't wish it upon my worst enemy, and if I can prevent it in any way, I will.
post #30 of 172
Getting the seasonal flu shot next week at the office - and will get the H1 shot as soon as available, if my doctor advises - I think I'm on the 'do call' list since I have diabetes, although my age group may have some protection.

Don't understand why anyone would pass it up, really - especially if their physicians advise them to get it.
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