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post #1 of 18
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This was a Plot caught by the FBI - pretty scary... just 3.5 miles from my house... the guy was caught as he tried to detonate an inactive car bomb at a Wells Fargo bank 60-story Building. (deactivated by undercover FBI agents) He was just 19 years old. Now here is the golden question: how many of them are there?

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DALLAS - Dallas FBI agents arrested a Jordanian citizen Thursday afternoon for attempting to bomb a skyscraper in Downtown Dallas.
According to the bureau, 19-year-old Mosam Maher Husein Smadi was arrested and charged for attempting to use a weapon of mass destruction.
Smadi had been under continuous FBI surveillance and was arrested after he allegedly placed and tried to detonate an inactive car bomb near Fountain Place, a 60-story glass office tower located at 1445 Ross Avenue, the FBI said.
http://www.myfoxdfw.com/dpp/news/loc..._to_Bomb_Dalla
http://www.examiner.com/x-18644-Kaufman-County-Crime-Examiner~y2009m9d24-Terrorist-plot-foiled-by-FBI-in-Dallas
post #2 of 18
Where I live I feel secure that they won't bomb a building. I live in a small town with 3,000 people. I have much more fear from the Monsanto Crops and the poisons they are using. I fear the crap they feed to the cows gets in our table water too. We are being poisoned to death by a US Corporation for profit.
post #3 of 18
After I heard this, I know that soon there will be another 9/11 in this country. They may have gotten some "notes" but not all. I don't want to say where this may happen, because a lot of things I've "seen" recently have come true.

But we are in for something no one expects right now. I'm praying I'm wrong about it, but I don't think so
post #4 of 18
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I definitely hope you are wrong...
I don't know about another 9/11, but I do think it is naive to think we are safe... That event yesterday took my head for a spin - It was too close to home... 3 1/2 miles close to home to be more precise. That makes it reality, not a distant dream anymore...
Had those guys not been the FBI, today Dallas would be a mess.
post #5 of 18
I have heard we have a couple of places right here in Minnesota that are high on the list as possible places where terrorists could strike. I live 20 miles from one and about 50 miles from the other. It's scary, and yes I do think we will have another 9/11 someday.
post #6 of 18
Don't you know, the "War on Terror" is a thing of the past.

That Jordanian MUST be a home grown terrorist.
post #7 of 18
Did anyone else notice that these guys were caught using provisions of the Patriot Act? Are you surprised that the Obama administration has quietly asked for extension of the Act?

I used to work about 1/2 block from there. I watched the building being built, back in the early 80's.
post #8 of 18
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Don't you know, the "War on Terror" is a thing of the past.

That Jordanian MUST be a home grown terrorist.
Cindy - please explain. What do you want to say, exactly, minus the sarcasm?
post #9 of 18
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Did anyone else notice that these guys were caught using provisions of the Patriot Act? Are you surprised that the Obama administration has quietly asked for extension of the Act?
If that helped to catch a terrorist - I am glad, good for him. I hope it helps to catch many more.
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I used to work about 1/2 block from there. I watched the building being built, back in the early 80's.
It is an awesome building, isn't it? I love downtown Dallas.... IMO it is one of the most beautiful in the country!
post #10 of 18
While it's wrong to do so, I snicker a little that his target was a bank. The large ones are far from popular at this time.

To directly answer the thread question. I'm not worried at all. I don't live in a major city and there's probably more threat from religious nuts and Elohim city - they were already involved in one bombing.
post #11 of 18
Today elections are being held in Germany, and there have been direct threats by al Quaida:
Islamists make threats ahead of election
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The new internet video threats are believed to come from the Taliban, an Interior Ministry spokesman said, and demand that Germany withdraw its troops from the war-torn country.

They followed a separate message that emerged earlier Friday from al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden with German subtitles demanding that Europeans leave Afghanistan. Bin Laden's message came hours after a third German-language video in a week surfaced by another al-Qaida militant, Abu Talha al-Almani - or "The German."

In the new video, a man calling himself "Ajjub" and speaking in German said: "Because of your commitment here against Islam, attacking Germany has become an attractive idea for us, the mujahideen," according to the spokesman. The militant said it was only a matter of time "before jihad destroys German walls."

Photos of famous German sites and events then appear, including Brandenburg Gate, Munich's Oktoberfest beer festival and Cologne Cathedral.
Skies cleared over Oktoberfest crowds amid terror fear

US warns of travel to Germany after terrorist threat video

The city I work in is "crawling" with cops armed with machine guns right now, because the southwestern equivalent of Munich's Oktoberfest is being held, and there are thousands of tourists (not to mention locals) there every day.

There have been quite a few arrests of Islamists over the past few years, the latest local one just this past week.

Given the country's past experience with the RAF (Baader-Meinhof), I can't see most people panicking over the threats or allowing them to influence their votes. One demand being made in the videos is that people support "The Left" party, which is calling for a complete withdrawal of German troops from Afghanistan.
post #12 of 18
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While it's wrong to do so, I snicker a little that his target was a bank. The large ones are far from popular at this time.
Well, I think Wells Fargo is in that building. It's also the district headquarters of the EPA, and a number of other institutions.

Look up a photo of the building. The long sloping side pointed toward my office, and they had a lot of trouble with tools, etc., being dropped during construction and breaking those windows. Usually two or three every day.
post #13 of 18
BF and I had dinner just a few blocks from that building that day (he had just picked me up from the airport--I was flying back from my grandmother's funeral), and we'd commented on the skyline and that building in particular, not knowing anything was going on...and then saw it on the news that night. Very creepy feeling.

If the attack had actually happened, it would have been while I was in the air but not far out. According to the news story we saw, there's evidence that an airport was considered as a target; Dallas has two significant commercial airports, so maybe it wouldn't have been the one I flew into, but still...it would have taken so little a difference for my life to have been an example of the many that would have been turned inside out.
post #14 of 18
I guess that terrible Patriot Act isn't so bad after all is it? I notice people don't mind it so much now that President Bush is not POTUS anymore.
post #15 of 18
While that was happening in Dallas, they've arrested a man in a suburb of Denver for plotting an attack likely planned for New York City. What they have let out to the public is that he and his conspirators were planning an attack similar to the 7/7 attacks on the London Transit System. It appears (keeping the legalese going) that he was taped purchasing dozens (!) of bottles of commercial grade hydrogen peroxide (32 oz. each) from a beauty supply store in Aurora at least twice along with other ingredients for a bomb recipe that was found scanned into his laptop in his handwriting. When the clerk at the store asked what he needed so much for, he said he "had a lot of girlfriends". They also found evidence that he was cooking the ingredients to make the bombs viable in an extended stay motel (the kind with a kitchenette). They found evidence of hydrogen peroxide and acetone in the vent above the stove in the room that he stayed in.

Now, while the alleged plot was supposed to take place in New York, who's to say they weren't going to do a trial run in Denver to make sure the bombs worked?

I'm super happy that the FBI/CIA/DHS are catching these guys and thwarting their plans, the question remains - how many aren't being caught? No policing force has 100% success, and it only takes one to fly beneath the radar and pull off an attack.
post #16 of 18
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Originally Posted by valanhb View Post
While that was happening in Dallas, they've arrested a man in a suburb of Denver for plotting an attack likely planned for New York City. What they have let out to the public is that he and his conspirators were planning an attack similar to the 7/7 attacks on the London Transit System. It appears (keeping the legalese going) that he was taped purchasing dozens (!) of bottles of commercial grade hydrogen peroxide (32 oz. each) from a beauty supply store in Aurora at least twice along with other ingredients for a bomb recipe that was found scanned into his laptop in his handwriting. When the clerk at the store asked what he needed so much for, he said he "had a lot of girlfriends". They also found evidence that he was cooking the ingredients to make the bombs viable in an extended stay motel (the kind with a kitchenette). They found evidence of hydrogen peroxide and acetone in the vent above the stove in the room that he stayed in.

Now, while the alleged plot was supposed to take place in New York, who's to say they weren't going to do a trial run in Denver to make sure the bombs worked?

I'm super happy that the FBI/CIA/DHS are catching these guys and thwarting their plans, the question remains - how many aren't being caught? No policing force has 100% success, and it only takes one to fly beneath the radar and pull off an attack.
That's the thing that worries me... If these guys are getting caught, how many more are out there? It gives the impression that many many more...
post #17 of 18
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Originally Posted by valanhb View Post
I'm super happy that the FBI/CIA/DHS are catching these guys and thwarting their plans, the question remains - how many aren't being caught? No policing force has 100% success, and it only takes one to fly beneath the radar and pull off an attack.
Well, since we're not all surrounded by exploding buildings, I'm leaning toward "so far, so good."
post #18 of 18
I'm less worried about poltically motivated terrorists than I am about people with more than one screw loose who have free access to weapons. Just take a look at crackpots who bring weapons into schools or fitness centers and shoot people dead because they felt shut out of their social circle.
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