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post #1 of 29
Thread Starter 
Anyone hear from katl8e today? There are forest fire's in where she lives.I hope her & Bill are ok,and of course their pets!
post #2 of 29
I was wondering that myself. The AZ fires were on the German news, so they must be pretty bad! Cindy, please report!
post #3 of 29
We're fine, Sherral. The fires are 25 miles away, in the Catalina and Rincon Mts. We have quite a view, from our front yard.

Summerhaven, a community in the Catalinas, is destroyed. About 200 homes and businesses are gone and the fire is headed for Ski Valley. The fire was under control until around 1:00 p.m., yeasterday. The wind changed and gusted up to 50 mph. They had to pull the firefighters out for a while and the fire blew up. The fire is burning downward, on both the north and south faces of the range.

Summerhaven and the three summer camps had already been evacuated and there's no loss of life. Hotels and resorts are providing shelter and the Humane Society is placing pets, for the residents.

After the Bullock fire, last year, a lot of the Summerhaven businesses went under. This may be the end, for the rest of them. In addition, a lot of people live up there year-round and they have lost their only home. One couple evacuated their summer cabin, only to be dispossed when their house in town caught fire, a few hours later.

The fire in the Rincons is less of a problem. Those mountains are uninhabited and are accessible only on foot or horseback.

The governor has freed up disaster money and the Federal disaster relief is due in, this evening. Skycrane helicopters and tanker airplanes, loaded with slurry, are flying round-the-clock in and out of the Air Force base and the airport.

The fires around the rest of the state are at least 150 miles from us. The only ill effects that we're getting are smoke and particulates aggravating Bill's emphysema. Thanks for thinking of us.
post #4 of 29
Thread Starter 
Thank God! Glad you are ok,I feel sory for the other;s who are not so lucky.Stay safe!
post #5 of 29
Glad to see and hear you are alright!!
post #6 of 29
post #7 of 29
Glad to hear you're ok. Sounds like Bill should stay inside as much as possible. I have a daughter in Yuma AZ and wondered how far that is from the big fires. She's only been there 2 months and I am not familiar with the southern part of AZ.

post #8 of 29
Cindy, I'm glad to hear that you & the crew are safe and sound!

Tammie, I hope that your daughter is FAR away from those fires. I'm not familiar with that area at all, so I'm not much help about that!
post #9 of 29
Cindy-I'm glad to hear that you and Bill and your furfamily are OK. When I saw the news tonight, I hoped that y'all weren't near the fires. Sending no fire vibes your way....
post #10 of 29
Tammie, Yuma is over on the California state line, nowhere near the fires. There's nothing around Yuma, to burn anyway. Its all sand. So, not to worry. Yuma's main problem is drunk kids, driving back from Mexico.

About three hours ago, the Forest Service had to ground the air tankers and helicopters. The winds are blowing 25-40+ mph and its not safe for them to fly, especially with all of the smoke. It looks awful, from down here - the TV news footage is worse. Yesterday morning, that fire was 450 acres. This evening, it is 4000.

What's burning is old-growth forest, that should have been thinned, years ago. Every time that is proposed, tree-huggers file a lawsuit and get it stopped. Therefore, these fires have humongous amounts of fuel, to feed them.

The large animals (deer, bears and bighorn sheep) seem to survive all right. There is a stream and a cave, on the north side of the Catalinas. The deer and sheep head there and the bears come into town, rummage through garbage cans and drink from swimming pools and garden ponds. We should be having a bear roundup, any day now. The fire's been burning, since Tuesday and they haven't gotten here, yet.
post #11 of 29
Originally posted by katl8e
Tammie, Yuma is over on the California state line, nowhere near the fires. There's nothing around Yuma, to burn anyway. Its all sand. So, not to worry. Yuma's main problem is drunk kids, driving back from Mexico.
YIKES! I don't know what is worse... fires or drunk Mexican kids (or any drunks for that matter).

Emily is my baby! She's barely 21 and first time away from home (and I miss her SOOO much). So I worry about her a lot. For those who don't know, She's on an LDS (Mormon) mission. I can't call her and she can't call me. And we can't visit either. It sucks (hope that isn't offensive to anyone).

post #12 of 29
Cindy, I heard about these fires on the news today and immediately thought of you and Bill. Glad to hear you are OK.
post #13 of 29
Thank the lord above us you are ok, I was worried there for a minute.

Sending lots of love.

post #14 of 29
The devastation is horrible. Too many years of mismanagement have led to this. That old-growth forest HAS to be thinned.

According to the Forest Service, most of the animals will be OK. The bighorn sheep habitat is quite a ways from the fire, the bears are on the move and the birds flew away. The only animal in real danger is the tassel-eared squirrel.

The Hilton El Conquistador Resort has let people with pets stay there (free), for several days. They have to leave today, though. Two organizations are accepting donations of pet food and money, for people who are staying places that don't allow pets. Some of the boarding facilities are taking pets for free or at reduced rates.

The winds have died down and tankers and helicopters are flying again. A personnel carrier flew over the house, a few minutes ago. The firefighters are back to round-the-clock work. So far, few injuries and no loss of human life.
post #15 of 29
I saw a news report yesterday where they said it might take about two weeks to get the fire under control. It's really horrible for those who have lost their homes. The wildlife should be okay - remember how bad that fire in Yellowstone was a few years back? Nature did recover there.
post #16 of 29
I was at Yellowstone, 5 years after that fire and one could STILL see how bad it was. After last year's Bullock Fire and this one (up to 8800 acres), Mt. Lemmon will not be the same, in my lifetime.

It is high time, that the so-called "environmentalists" wake up and realize that their zeal to save EVERY tree is, in actuality, killing more trees and animals than well-managed thinning and clearing. Even our notoriously liberal governor has been shaken up, by what she has seen and is pushing to let Arizonans manage our forests.
post #17 of 29
The Aspen fire is now over 25,000 acres, with about 275 buildings destroyed. The burned-over areas, from last year's fires are keeping it contained on two sides.

The winds have died down and changed direction, which will help with the firefighting. We are about three weeks away from rain, though.

The town of Oracle is currently protected by one of the burned-over areas but residents of Catalina have ben told to pack necessities and be prepared to evacuate. The luxury retirement community of Saddlebrooke is also being prepared for evacuation.

My oldest brother and his family live in Catalina. My SIL works for a motel chain and, if necessary, they can go to my parents' house.

The Hilton El Conquistador Resort did not make evacuees leave, on Sunday. They can stay as long as necessary. The Tucson Association of Realtors has come through with free or reduced-cost apartments. So far, they have made about 450 apartments available. This time of year, a lot of buildings are going begging, with the snowbirds and university students gone.

The Red Cross, Salvation Army and fire insurance companies are set up, at the El Con resort, to start helping people recoup their losses. A lot of renters and homeowners, on the mountain did not have insurance, though. Not too smart, on their parts.
post #18 of 29
Oh Cindy - and all of those who are or have family who are potentially affected - my heart goes out to you!!! We have close friends in the Tucson area, and we've been watching the news closely. It's just terrible, and all are in my prayers.
post #19 of 29
The fire is 25% contained and, as long as the winds stay low, it should be out in a few weeks.

The loss of structures is officially 345. Survey crews are going back up the mountain today. Most of the residents and business owners say that they will rebuild.

Ski Valley was untouched. If they get enough snow, those businesses will get through the winter OK. Ski season is short here, anyway. Some years, they can't open the slopes, until January and they usually close by March.

The City of Tucson did get a permit for 4th of July fireworks. The towns and resorts, near the mountains, have their permits on hold. Last year, Tucson had to put on a laser light show, because of the Bullock Fire.

Personal fireworks are illegal in AZ and the fine is now $5000. Every year, some idiot sets a fire, with fireworks. They are readily available in Mexico, Nevada and New Mexico.
post #20 of 29
I am SO bummed! As of this morning, the Aspen Fire was 70% contained. Around noon, the winds shifted, picked up and it blew up again. The Forest Service had to pull the crews out, for their safety.

Sabino Canyon, a popular hiking and picnicking spot at the base of the mountains, had to be closed. The fire is rushing down all of the canyons. There are a lot of houses ($500,000+) around the canyons. Needless to say, I don't live anywhere near there.

This fire is now over 40,000 acres, with no end in sight. Just this morning, they were positing a July 10 reopening of the mountain. They'll be lucky to make it, by August 1, now.

All we can do, is pray for rain. That brings its own problems: without trees and brush, to stabilize the soil, it will wash away and nothing will grow. They were hoping to get the fire out and spread straw and seedlings, before the rainy season starts, in mid-July.
post #21 of 29
It keeps getting worse. The fire is over 60,000 acres, now. Five more homes were lost today. Tonight, the flames were rivalling the fireworks.

Yesterday, high winds forced the Forest Service to pull their crews out. The choppers kept flying, though. The fire camp had to be moved, for safety reasons. They are setting backfires, to try to save the observatory and ranger station. Most of the radio and TV stations have their repeaters up there, too. Those of us with cable won't lose our TV signals, if they go.

The fear is that the rains will come, with a vengeance and cause major mudslides. These would endanger many neighborhoods and businesses, in the foothills. They were in the proces of stablizing the ground, from last year's fire, when this one was started.
post #22 of 29
Ugh! I pray that something major happens and this fire can be put out as quickly as possible.

Do they know how it got started?
post #23 of 29
All that they are saying, as yet, is that it is human-caused. Whether that was arson, a campfire getting away or a smoldering cigarette, we don't know. They have been asking people, who were in the area that day, to call in with any bit of information: people that they saw, vehicles or suspicious activity.

The Mt. Lemmon homeonwners held their annual Fourth of July parade, at a park, here in town. Tents were set up, with donated items, for those displaced. Profits from concessions went to relief efforts.

Danny Glover is planning a benefit dinner, for next month. When he was here, making a movie, he fell in love with Summerhaven and wants to help. Several big-name musical acts are doing a concert, too. A lot of famous people have homes here. Paul McCartney has a big ranch, near the base of the mountains. Maybe, Linda Ronstadt will do something (not that she ever has). She was born and raised here.
post #24 of 29
This is the view from my driveway, this afternoon. We can't see the whole range, from my house but, this is bad enough.
post #25 of 29
im glad to hear you and your family is okay, i have been watching this on tv, and its horrible, i hope its under control soon keep safe.
post #26 of 29
Yesterday, about 200 homes were issued a "strongly recommended" evacuation order. Loew's Ventana Canyon Resort is also being evacuated. This is some very pricy foothills real estate. The Sheriff's Dept. is going to step up patrols in the area, to discourage burglars.
post #27 of 29
Well, the fire is up to 86,000 acres and is 75% contained. The weatherman is predicting rain, Friday and Saturday. Instead of a huge cloud of smoke, there is a haze and a few isolated columns.

Hopefully, this thing will be beaten, by next week. The cleanup will take months or even years, though. The Feds have freed up money, to mulch and seed fast-germinating oat and barley, to stablize the soil. Otherwise, the foothills will be totally clogged with runoff dirt. Bill's company and every other one in town are gearing up to move tons of dirt, to prevent flooding in the valley. Fortunately our house and my parents' place are far enough away from the problem areas.
post #28 of 29
I hope they find out what person started this and deal with them appropriately.

It is sooo sad. I'll be happy to see it out and clean up start. Sending out more prayers to you guys and all the firefighters risking injury to fight this.
post #29 of 29
that picture is crazy, i can't imagine living that close.. I hope this ends very soon and that you and others are all safe..
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