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I would have sent him back too but it's over an hour round-trip (long story, it's the only place that sells our dog food) and he was so proud of himself! Plus Miss Kitty supplements her diet pretty well with voles & Tasha sneaks the kitten food
.

I just made him pick up a poop in the living room (not sure who left it there) I told him to clean the kitty litter two days ago because it smells, does he listen? now he will (I'm preggers so "can't change the litter"
)

I'm headed to the store tomorrow, I can never make it to the health food store during the week, they just close too early
.

Peaches is starting to get sniffly too, I'm starting to think of weaning the kittens really early (see "Mango & Pink try their first solid food" in pregnancy) this whole ordeal has put ALLOT of stress on her tiny little body. We may have to take her the vet, I really hope not
I just spent $300 on the dog were puppy-sitting (which we get back, but not for a little while still...).

I think it would be a good idea just to write a whole sticky for the forum about diarrhoea
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AHA! The natural food store actually had a pet probiotic of all things!
However as my husband put it 'we don't know if this is going to work so we should just get the human one, then we know we can take it if it doesn't work on her'.

SMART MAN!

So we got Natural Factors Protec. How much do I give Peaches?

Question two: How do I get it in her??

She seems to have stopped eating, which is very worrisome. If you've got bad diarrhoea not eating for a day or two is PROBABLY a good idea, but not when you're feeding kittens & already a little skinny. So I need to get this stuff into her A.S.A.P. Even my secret recipe of microwaves warmed canned food isn't working. She is drinking lots but I can't be sure none of the other cats will get to her water (and mess the dossage).

Wet food juice + probiotic + syringe maybe?
 
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The stench from Peaches is getting unbearable, and I've got a good stomach
. I shoved half a pill of the probiotic (in some water in a syringe, poor girl!) into her. Hopefully that will make her feel better. She did actually sniff at the wet food, but didn't even lick the juice. I so badly want to force-feed her but I don't think that's a good idea. She's lost allot of weight though. I don't know if there is a cat-equivalent body weight score, but on a horse she'd be a 2
.

I think I'm going to have to pull the kittens
which I really really don't want to do, especially since between being pregnant & a toddler I REALLY need what little sleep I get. At this point though I don't see another option.

I didn't manage to get any KMR today, is there anything from my pantry I can give them tonight? I seem to have run out of condensed milk. I don't want to give them cows milk. They do seem hungry. I live in a very small town so it's not like we can "run out" anywhere, it's got to be in my house. I'm thinking I might try a little of the home-made pedialite, but I don't want to fill them up with water.

Pink is fine, she's eating a little wet food again, Mango, I'm a little concerned about. He's not dehydrated, he seems fine I just know Peaches isn't producing her usual amount of milk & he's not interested in the wet food (not surprisingly, he's only 2 weeks old!).

I will get some KMR tomorrow.

Right now I've got to give both kittens a bath, I just realized she's stopped cleaning them since this afternoon, which isn't helping with the smell in the kennel! (of course I did change their blankets a.s.a.p. I'll probably end up doing it again before I go to bed
).

These little guys came into the world no problem! I should have gotten the probiotic on thursday.
 

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She's not eating? Can you get her to a E-vet tonight or first thing in the morning? That she's not caring for them how she should scares me a bit.

I'm worried that either there's some parasite problem or there could be enough bad bacteria to make her sick. Certain kinds of bacteria will release toxins that can be very dangerous - been there, done it myself and ended up in the hospital.
Does she seem to have a fever? Has she been tested for FIV and FeLV?

Always problems on the weekends, isn't it?



I have a bad feeling you're going to have to take over nursing both the kittens and momma kitty back to health.
 
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There is no way probiotics work THAT quickly because Peaches has definitely perked up since I gave them to her!!! :O

I took the kittens away for a bath and some pedialite (not that they need it, it was for me) and let her have a nap. The change in Peaches was very slow but she let the kittens nurse after I brought them back to her. At first she didn't want to groom herself, then slowly she started licking her side. Then she cleaned her face, and her bum. Then she cleaned the kittens (I should have thrown some boulian in the bath water!!
), and actually walked over to them to get them to nurse more after they stopped. She's been looking wistfully at the food, and I think she might actually eat before the end of the night.

BIG difference since I noticed she was getting dirty & she definitely wasn't cleaning the kittens (at least since noon today).

Peaches is still sitting all squished up (like all cats with a tummy ache do) but she look about 20% better then she did 3 hours ago, I can't believe it.

I havn't tested her temp (there is a pet thermometer around here somewhere, but I'm not sure where) but she doesn't seem hot at all. She hasn't been tested/vaccinated for anything since she poped out some kids before we had a chance to get her over her cold & take her to the vet! She'll go with the kittens for their first check-up.

As she's really perked up I'm hoping I'll be providing a meal or two to the kittens but that will be it
.

It could be parasites but I've had a PRETTY good look at her poo lately & haven't seen anything, plus she's been getting dio-earth in her food a couple times. I could be bacterial but all 3 cats share the same space/food/water/etc. and NO one else in the entire house is sick.

She was quite skinny before she had the kittens (why we didn't now until about a week before she had them) so it's quite possible this is caused by the kittens alone combined with her poor condition.
 

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Get some of the (plain, unflavored) pedialyte in her if you can. It'll help replace some of the electrolytes lost to diarrhea.

And no, probiotics shouldn't work that fast. Any chance you could try a bit of plain boiled chicken for her? You need to make sure she keeps eating and drinking.

Still worried about the poor girl. It honestly sounds like she needs a vet soon.
 
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She's actually drinking as normal. I did leave the rest of the homemade pedialite upstairs for her but she's been running downstairs just fine to come get the cat's water.

If it's not the probiotics she must just be feeling a little better!
I really hope so!

I do agree it does sound like she needs to go into the vet, we're going to see how things go tomorrow and if she starts eating again. She doesn't LOOK sick other then being bunched up (eyes very clear/etc.), and is acting pretty well her normal self except she doesn't want to move; but as I said she is going out to use the litter and down the stairs to get water frequently.

As long as she's still got enough milk to feed the kittens there can't be too much to worry about. I should repeat she is not AT ALL dehydrated, neither are any of the kittens (I know how to check for his properly), other wise they would have been at the vet tonight (they are horse-vets, someone is on call 24/7).

I know when I'm feeling ill the way she is not eating for a day or two can really be all you need to get back on your feet. Once your system is empty and your tummy starts settling down again.

Anyway, I'm not really sure what the vet can do other then give her an IV & she's not dehydrated.
 
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Peaches is eating!

It was either time or the probiotics, I guess we'll never know.

It started with just a little on her nose, then she picked up the bits I dropped off the towel, now she's tuckered right into the plate
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Happy Dance Time!
 

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^They could do a fecal to see what's going on, check temp, if needed prescribe antibiotics and something to help settle her stomach to keep her eating. Blood tests if you wish, FIV and FeLV test. Pretty much - give or take a couple things.

Good to hear she's eating some now.
 
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I can officially upgrade her poop from water to diaharroea again
. She was quite interested in her food this morning, but more interested in feeding her kittens; however, it does look like she ate about half the can over night
(small can).

Kittens are still in great spirits, toddling all over their kennels & wrestling
.

I was thinking I should dose her with another half-pill or probiotics this morning, but I really don't know how much I should be giving her :S.
 
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More happy dances
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Peaches is doing GREAT
. She came down while we were eating dinner & ate her dry food! She's laying down to feed the kitties again too, I'm sure their kneading really hurt while she wasn't feeling well!

I guess I'm on my own for figuring out the probiotic dosage
I'll keep her at 1/2 a pill for now and try a maintenance of 1/4 until the kittens are weaned.

Thanks for the probiotic suggestion SW, it was obviously the right call
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So the vet told hubby there is no reason Human Probiotics should work on a cat. However, Peaches was in here earlier, and I had to leave - that the first time since I started giving her the probiotics, and as I didn't give them to her yesterday...


So either my vet has NO idea what she's talking about and they did have some effect OR it's all just a fluke! We're off to buy cat/dog food tonight or tomorrow so I'm picking up some kitty probiotic!!
 
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