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post #1 of 55
9/10/09 at 12:59pm
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We have all heard about ACORN and voter registration fraud. They have been indicted in, what, 14 states or is it 17 states. The voter registration fraud is rampant with them.

ACORN, the Community Organizers that Barack worked for/with in the good old days.

They are in big trouble now. Undercover video of a man impersonating a pimp and woman impersonating a prostitute go in the Baltimore, MD ACORN housing division and WOW

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,548827,00.html

Fox is only reporting it, it did not come from Fox.

The story and video are, almost, unbelievable.
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In the videotape, made on July 24, James O'Keefe, a 25-year-old independent filmmaker, posed as a pimp with a 20-year-old woman named "Kenya" who posed as a prostitute while visiting ACORN's office in Baltimore. The couple told ACORN staffers they wanted to secure housing where the woman could continue to maintain a prostitution business.
Breitbart's new website biggovernment.com has the entire video, uncut so they cannot be accused of "taken out of context".

ACORN helps this supposed pimp and prostitute
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The "pimp" later says that he and "Kenya" plan to bring up to 13 "very young" girls from El Salvador to work as prostitutes. Although an ACORN staffer points out their plans are illegal, she also suggests that the girls can be claimed as dependents.

"What if they are going to be making money because they are performing tricks too?" the pimp says.

"If they making money and they are underage, then you shouldn't be letting anybody know anyway," the ACORN staffer says, and laughs. "It's illegal. So I am not hearing this, I am not hearing this. You talk too much. Don't give up no information you're not asked."
ACORN has NO oversight of their employees.
ACORN looks the other way when told these people are planning to smuggle in underage girls from El Salvador (13 to 15 year olds) to be prostitutes.
ACORN Helps people cheat on their taxes to make it look like this is a legit business.
ACORN Helps people cheat the housing scheme so they can get a loan for their house of prostitution.

P.S. ACORN has received millions upon millions of dollars from the government and they are set to receive about 4 BILLION dollars of Stimulus Money.

I wonder if they will be building Brothels with the money to stimulate the economy.
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post #2 of 55
9/10/09 at 1:29pm
So, because one dumb staffer was like that, that makes the whole organization bad? Hmmm. You don't suppose that "staffer" could also have been an actor/pretend staffer? I honestly do not believe any normal person would even consider what that guy and gal were saying.

So if my brother commits murder, then my whole family is bad, bad, bad. Sheesh, doesn't seem fair to me.

I really don't trust folks that have to bad mouth others in order to make themselves look good. It sends up red flags for me.
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post #3 of 55
9/10/09 at 2:18pm
ACORN registered voters who were not legal citizens. ACORN has many, many shady practices, not just this. They are a partisan group receiving federal funds. They need to be throughly investigated.
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post #4 of 55
9/10/09 at 4:18pm
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Originally Posted by Yosemite View Post
So, because one dumb staffer was like that, that makes the whole organization bad? Hmmm. You don't suppose that "staffer" could also have been an actor/pretend staffer? I honestly do not believe any normal person would even consider what that guy and gal were saying.

So if my brother commits murder, then my whole family is bad, bad, bad. Sheesh, doesn't seem fair to me.

I really don't trust folks that have to bad mouth others in order to make themselves look good. It sends up red flags for me.


I don't understand your last sentence.

This is not the first thing with ACORN, they have been indicted in 14 states, including mine.
And if the "staffer" was pretend, why is her face now blurred out.
The facts will come out, stay tuned.

How is it bad mouthing if it is true? And who is trying, "to make themselves look good?"
Are you saying there is no corruption in organizations?

It is soooo easy for people to accept corporate corruption, but a community organizing entity can't be corrupt?
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post #5 of 55
9/10/09 at 4:33pm
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
I don't understand your last sentence.

This is not the first thing with ACORN, they have been indicted in 14 states, including mine.
And if the "staffer" was pretend, why is her face now blurred out.
The facts will come out, stay tuned.

How is it bad mouthing if it is true? And who is trying, "to make themselves look good?"
Are you saying there is no corruption in organizations?

It is soooo easy for people to accept corporate corruption, but a community organizing entity can't be corrupt?
No Cindy, I'm not saying they aren't corrupt or couldn't be corrupt, I'm just saying that things are not always what they seem. That whole scenario could have been staged to show a bad side by the other side if you get my drift. I just have difficulty having faith in anyone that feels the need to rat out, vilify and just plain point fingers.

I recently had a man come to give us an estimate on getting our roof re-shingled. All he did was bad-mouth other contractors, lied and said our neighbour was not happy with the job this one other contractor did (neighbour said he was indeed very happy with the job), and boasted how much cheaper he would be compared to the others. As soon as he started bad-mouthing the others I decided I didn't care how much cheaper he was, he wouldn't get my business. Well turns out he was $500 more than the contractor he was bad-mouthing. I just don't trust people like that.
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post #6 of 55
9/10/09 at 5:05pm
Just some of the ACORN scandals

http://www.hyscience.com/archives/20...er_acorn_s.php
How many non-profits and related corporations housed in ACORN's headquarters? 270!!!

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion...YzAoIy5e0xJsHO
Embezzling cover-up scandal by brother of ACORN's founder!

http://michellemalkin.com/2009/09/09...come-to-miami/
Voter fraud

http://5views.com/2008/06/20/more-acorn-scandals/
Mortgage fraud

Need more?

Yes, I suppose that video could have been a set-up, but this is an organiation that has refused to open up its books for auditors. This is an organization that has been uncooperative with investigators for years. And this is just another of Obama's questionable affiliations.
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post #7 of 55
9/10/09 at 5:11pm
That Obama sure is one bad dude!
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post #8 of 55
9/10/09 at 5:52pm
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Originally Posted by Yosemite View Post
That Obama sure is one bad dude!
Oh yes, he is so bad that our local school principal refused to broadcast the Presidential speech to students on education He's such a boogey-man---oh, aren't you scared yet??? (I'm being sarcastic )
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post #9 of 55
9/10/09 at 6:14pm
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Originally Posted by Yosemite View Post
That Obama sure is one bad dude!
Yep!

His associations include:
ACORN
Jeremiah Wright, racist
William Ayers, bomber & domestic terrorist
Tony Rezco, slumlord and extortionist
Rod Blagojevich, former disgraced governor caught selling Obama's vacant senate seat.
Tim Geithner, tax cheat
Kathleen Sebelius, tax cheat
Tom Daschle, withdrew based on tax issues
Van Jones, communist and potty mouth!
And of course there is his long time association with the corrupt Chicago political machine that spawned Blagojevich and his predecessor, and others.
I'm sure I'm missing more than a few, but this list is enough for me.

I would agree, Obama is one bad dude that doesn't deserve the Oval Office.
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post #10 of 55
9/10/09 at 8:22pm
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Originally Posted by Yosemite View Post
No Cindy, I'm not saying they aren't corrupt or couldn't be corrupt, I'm just saying that things are not always what they seem. That whole scenario could have been staged to show a bad side by the other side if you get my drift. I just have difficulty having faith in anyone that feels the need to rat out, vilify and just plain point fingers.

I recently had a man come to give us an estimate on getting our roof re-shingled. All he did was bad-mouth other contractors, lied and said our neighbour was not happy with the job this one other contractor did (neighbour said he was indeed very happy with the job), and boasted how much cheaper he would be compared to the others. As soon as he started bad-mouthing the others I decided I didn't care how much cheaper he was, he wouldn't get my business. Well turns out he was $500 more than the contractor he was bad-mouthing. I just don't trust people like that.
I agree, I hate people who bad mouth their competitors. That is a big turn off to me. I even hate it when commercials compare their brand to a named brand.

But, I don't know what that has to do with ACORN since you don't have any personal dealings with them.

What I do know is ACORN seems shady at the best, corrupt at the worst. Completely different from someone bad mouthing another contractor.
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post #11 of 55
9/10/09 at 9:47pm
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We are judged by the company we keep, it is a fact of life.

Nine times out of ten if you are hanging with bad people they drag you down, you don't lift them up.

I have been talking for quite some time, getting close to a year, that Barack Obams has past associations with some very bad people. It is an undisputed fact. And many of his czars are not the best of people.

I'm sorry but I have a problem with tax cheats running the IRS, it just doesn't seem right to me. And Geithner is the least of the bad guys, but I have said it all before, many times.

People don't care, they really don't because Barack is, "The One".
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post #12 of 55
9/10/09 at 9:49pm
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ACORN is an organization that is receiving BILLIONS in Stimulus money. With all their scandals and voter registration fraud indictments in 14 states and now THIS, I'm sorry but I just don't think this is the type of organization that deserves MY hard earned money.
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post #13 of 55
9/10/09 at 9:52pm
ACORN did one right thing today. They fired the 2 Baltimore employees seen on that videotape citing that they weren't "professional" enough for their organization.
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post #14 of 55
9/10/09 at 9:54pm
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Well, it looks like that is validation for that video right there. I have been out of commission and haven't gotten any news since this morning, been busy, I better go check this out. Thanks for the heads up DM
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post #15 of 55
9/11/09 at 6:58am
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,549001,00.html

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The community organizing group ACORN has fired two employees at its Baltimore office who were seen on hidden-camera video giving advice to a man posing as a pimp and a woman pretending to be a prostitute, as some legal experts raise questions over whether the employees broke the law.
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An ACORN official told the couple how to falsify tax forms and seek illegal benefits for 13 "very young" girls from El Salvador that they said they wanted to import as prostitutes
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post #16 of 55
9/11/09 at 7:22am
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Originally Posted by calico2222 View Post
I agree, I hate people who bad mouth their competitors. That is a big turn off to me. I even hate it when commercials compare their brand to a named brand.

But, I don't know what that has to do with ACORN since you don't have any personal dealings with them.

What I do know is ACORN seems shady at the best, corrupt at the worst. Completely different from someone bad mouthing another contractor.
You are right - it has nothing to do with ACORN. I have to admit I know little to nothing about ACORN so I can only assume you folks know of what you speak. I feel the same way about some charities such as MADD who like us to think the money we give them goes to help others when in fact the major part of each dollar we give goes to administration. I stopped giving to those agencies.
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post #17 of 55
9/11/09 at 7:43am
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Okay, this thread I posted was video taken in the ACORN office in Baltimore, Maryland.

Update with ANOTHER tape, at ANOTHER ACORN office

Now, the same thing, at another ACORN office in Washington D.C.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,549241,00.html

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One day after two ACORN officials in Baltimore were fired for offering to help a man and woman posing as a pimp and prostitute to engage in child prostitution and a series of tax crimes, another secretly shot videotape has surfaced that shows the same couple getting similar advice from ACORN officers in Washington.

This is ACORN, who is to receive billions, between four billion to eight billion dollars in Stimulus money, money that came from ME and millions of other taxpayers and our money is going to go to a group that advises people how to import young girls illegally into the country for the sex trade?
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post #18 of 55
9/11/09 at 4:35pm
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New Update, More ACORN employees fired at the 2nd location, in Washington D.C.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,549241,00.html


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ACORN Fires More Officials for Helping 'Pimp,' 'Prostitute' in Washington Office
Friday, September 11, 2009

Two more ACORN officials were fired Friday after a second video surfaced showing staffers in the community organizers' Washington office offering to help a man and woman posing as a pimp and prostitute acquire illegal home loans that would help them set up a brothel.

The firings came less than 24 hours after another pair of ACORN officials from the group's Baltimore office were canned for instructing the "pimp" and "prostitute" how to falsify tax forms and seek illegal benefits for 13 "very young" girls from El Salvador that pair said they wanted to import to work as child prostitutes.
MORE New Breaking News - U.S. Census Bureau Severs Ties with ACORN

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...rs-ties-acorn/

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Census Bureau Severs Ties With ACORN
The Census Director has sent a letter to the National Headquarters of ACORN notifying the group that it will no longer have a role in conducting the 2010 census. ACORN had previously been tapped to help with low level data gathering.
To date, NO Democratic politicians have called for ACORN to be investigated. It is a sad day in this country when a group can get billions in taxpayer stimulus money with, absolutely, no accountability.
Is this what this country has sunk to.
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post #19 of 55
9/11/09 at 5:01pm
I agree Cindy. ACORN needs to be thoroughly investigated and their books audited.
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post #20 of 55
9/11/09 at 7:22pm
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Originally Posted by Yosemite View Post
You are right - it has nothing to do with ACORN. I have to admit I know little to nothing about ACORN so I can only assume you folks know of what you speak. I feel the same way about some charities such as MADD who like us to think the money we give them goes to help others when in fact the major part of each dollar we give goes to administration. I stopped giving to those agencies.
Oh, I agree, there are a LOT of corrupt charities out there. That is why I stopped donating money and donate goods instead. The only charity that gets my money is a local no-kill shelter every year when I get my tax returns. If I can afford to donate food or supplies to local food banks or national rescue agencies in times of emergency I will, but no money. I can understand SOME has to go back into administration to keep advertising going and what not, but some are just over the top. Besides, I figure if I donate things that they need that will save them time and effort.

Sorry...off topic. Back to originally scheduled programming.
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post #21 of 55
9/12/09 at 8:06am
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The History of ACORN

I don't think ACORN is a charity, they have a definite agenda, read this article.

http://townhall.com/columnists/Matth...ling_democracy
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post #22 of 55
9/13/09 at 6:24am
Hubby's favorite line (no matter who you are talking about) is "you ARE like those you ASSOCIATE with".

And this is not the first time the couple went to ACORN offices around the country doing the same set up and taping. Its not just one person in one state that did it. This has happened in several states.
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post #23 of 55
9/13/09 at 5:17pm
Frankly, I take anything reported on Fox "news" with a grain of salt.

There has been rampant voter fraud by the Republicans in past elections, and many attempts in this past election.

You can dig up dirt on any politician, president or not.

It amazes me how gullible we all are when it's something that resonates with our personal ideology.

I don't trust any politician to do the right thing because it's all about re-election and sticking it to the opposition. None of them care what's good for the American people.

I would find links, but I have to go to work early tomorrow, I'm tired, and I'm heading to bed.
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post #24 of 55
9/13/09 at 5:19pm
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
The History of ACORN

I don't think ACORN is a charity, they have a definite agenda, read this article.

http://townhall.com/columnists/Matth...ling_democracy
Always remember that EVERYONE has an agenda.

(I'm not defending ACORN, I don't have enough facts one way or the other.)
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post #25 of 55
9/13/09 at 8:36pm
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Originally Posted by Misty8723 View Post
Frankly, I take anything reported on Fox "news" with a grain of salt.

There has been rampant voter fraud by the Republicans in past elections, and many attempts in this past election.

You can dig up dirt on any politician, president or not.

It amazes me how gullible we all are when it's something that resonates with our personal ideology.

I don't trust any politician to do the right thing because it's all about re-election and sticking it to the opposition. None of them care what's good for the American people.

I would find links, but I have to go to work early tomorrow, I'm tired, and I'm heading to bed.
This thread is not about politicians, it is about ACORN, the corrupt organization that BOTH parties have been giving millions of dollars to. Both parties are corrupt, one just as bad as the other. There has been no "change" at all in that regard. ACORN is eligible to receive 8.5 BILLION in Stimulus money, since they will not allow anyone to audit their books, no one really knows, for sure, how much they have receive but I can tell you this, they are a corrupt organization. Indictments in 14 states for voter registration fraud.

Fox reported it, they didn't make the tapes, maybe reading this thread and checking out the links would be a good place to start.

If it is not true, I wonder why ACORN fired the employees at BOTH of the differenct offices this happened at.

I also have to wonder why the United States Census Bureau has severed all ties with ACORN and ACORN will not be helping with the Census next year.

I would be interested in any Republican voter fraud links you want to post.

Maybe there are people that think it is fine and dandy for Acorn to give prostitutes and pimps advice on how to avoid paying their taxes, obtain a housing loan to buy a house to run their brothel out of and, most importantly, how to illegally import young teenage girls from El Salvador to be prostitutes. (All on the tapes)
Now if that is what you want YOUR stimulus money going for that is up to you but that is not the kind of stimulus I want.

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It amazes me how gullible we all are when it's something that resonates with our personal ideology.
What, "personal ideology" would that be?
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post #26 of 55
9/14/09 at 11:38am
It's obvious from the now 3 tapes that have surfaced, that ACORN was a part of the fraudulant loans given to people who misstated their income in order to buy a house they couldn't afford that started the housing bubble that resulted in massive foreclosures, bank failures, unemployment, and the collapse of our economy that may take years to climb out of.

ACORN along with Barney Frank, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, etc. are all responsible. This sham organization needs to be dismantled, and not given another dime of taxpayer money.
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post #27 of 55
9/14/09 at 12:15pm
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Originally Posted by Dusty's Mom View Post
It's obvious from the now 3 tapes that have surfaced, that ACORN was a part of the fraudulant loans given to people who misstated their income in order to buy a house they couldn't afford that started the housing bubble that resulted in massive foreclosures, bank failures, unemployment, and the collapse of our economy that may take years to climb out of.

ACORN along with Barney Frank, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, etc. are all responsible. This sham organization needs to be dismantled, and not given another dime of taxpayer money.
Oh, oh, a THIRD tape? better go check this out.
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post #28 of 55
9/14/09 at 12:39pm
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Oh, oh, a THIRD tape? better go check this out.
Yep! Newest one is in Brooklyn or NYC.
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post #29 of 55
9/14/09 at 1:37pm
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Yep, a THIRD tape at a different location, this one in New York City

1. Baltimore, MD
2. Washington D.C.
3. New York City (Brooklyn)

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,549903,00.html

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Third Videotape Reveals ACORN Assisting 'Pimp,' 'Prostitute' in Brooklyn, N.Y.
Days after the release of hidden-camera videos led to the firing of four ACORN workers in Baltimore and Washington who assisted an independent filmmaker posing as a pimp to apply for an illegal housing loan for a brothel, a third video has surfaced showing ACORN workers offering the same kind of assistance at the organization's office in Brooklyn, N.Y.
Wonderful community organization, this ACORN.
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post #30 of 55
9/14/09 at 3:55pm
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4th Tape to be Released Tomorrow
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