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I think that is standard, and it would raise a red flag if he didn't accept it... but I could be wrong.... The rescuer I got my three from can come for a house check at any time. And I CAN NOT pass my cat along to someone else, and need to communicate with her of my address changes, and if my cats have an illness, etc......Originally Posted by Degu_2009
He also just said that in the contract they have a warrant to enter your home at any time for any reason to see if you still have the cat and are taking care of it.
THAT. IS. CRAZY.
No, it's not crazy. It's normal. Especially in the times we live in now. Animal abuse and animal abandonment are rampant.Originally Posted by Degu_2009
He also just said that in the contract they have a warrant to enter your home at any time for any reason to see if you still have the cat and are taking care of it.
THAT. IS. CRAZY.
I just think it's silly how you can pick up a stray on the street and love it just as good as a shelter cat. The screening process is way too ridiculous and even the people who qualify and have jobs can end up mistreating their pets. All he wants to do is give the cat a loving home and they won't let him do that. So they will let Odessa stay in the shelter until she dies or until someone else qualifies.Originally Posted by otto
No, it's not crazy. It's normal. Especially in the times we live in now. Animal abuse and animal abandonment are rampant.
This shelter obviously cares about what happens to the animals they adopt out. They know Odessa, and they know what her needs are.
I'm sorry your friend saw Odessa once and wants her. But we live in an imperfect world. We're not talking about a cat he's been with his whole life, and is being forced to let her go. He met her what, once or twice?
Now I understand being Chosen. I understand the instant bond between cat and human. But I also understand a shelter has rules to protect their adoptees.
What you don't understand is many MANY cats adopted from shelters do not end up having loving forever homes. They end up in abusive neglectful homes, or dumped on the street, or left to die horribly because someone "couldn't afford the vet". A shelter that does a couple drop in checks is my idea of a good caring shelter.
Yes YOU know your friend is a good bet for Odessa. But the shelter does not. And frankly, I too, would not adopt a cat out to a household that had no income coming in.
That's true. Which is why the drop in check-ons.Originally Posted by Degu_2009
I just think it's silly how you can pick up a stray on the street and love it just as good as a shelter cat. The screening process is way too ridiculous and even the people who qualify and have jobs can end up mistreating their pets. All he wants to do is give the cat a loving home and they won't let him do that. So they will let Odessa stay in the shelter until she dies or until someone else qualifies.
Not even once otto, he saw a picture on the shelter website. the OP stated that he wasn't even permitted to touch the cat at his interview.Originally Posted by otto
No, it's not crazy. It's normal. Especially in the times we live in now. Animal abuse and animal abandonment are rampant.
This shelter obviously cares about what happens to the animals they adopt out. They know Odessa, and they know what her needs are.
I'm sorry your friend saw Odessa once and wants her. But we live in an imperfect world. We're not talking about a cat he's been with his whole life, and is being forced to let her go. He met her what, once or twice?
Now I understand being Chosen. I understand the instant bond between cat and human. But I also understand a shelter has rules to protect their adoptees.
What you don't understand is many MANY cats adopted from shelters do not end up having loving forever homes. They end up in abusive neglectful homes, or dumped on the street, or left to die horribly because someone "couldn't afford the vet". A shelter that does a couple drop in checks is my idea of a good caring shelter.
Yes YOU know your friend is a good bet for Odessa. But the shelter does not. And frankly, I too, would not adopt a cat out to a household that had no income coming in.
I only don't agree with the rules because this shelter has had many complaints before and they treated my friend really rudely. They practically sent him home crying. He's been looking forward to this for weeks and they should have told him the requirements before he rode his bike and took a bus down the the shelter TWICE and bought all those pet supplies. They told him to just bring in a Vet's name today and he did.....but they rejected him for not having a job, which they didn't ask him about yesterday, they made him leave after he said he didn't have a vet's name.Originally Posted by otto
That's true. Which is why the drop in check-ons.
I understand you don't agree with these rules. And yes anyone can pick up a stray and take her home. But Odessa is not a stray on the street. She is a cat this shelter has invested time and money and love into. They care about what happens to her and their standards are high.
Someone here gave the advice that your friend should concentrate on getting work and doing whatever else the shelter requires for an adoptor, and then return for another try at approval, if Odessa is still available.
That is the correct adult course of action to take. It's the right thing to do....job before pet....and it will help the shelter to see that he is serious about wanting to do right by Odessa.
That isn't crazy- that's how it is being done and if we were not in an economic crisis with so many animals being put to sleep by the shelters, then animals would be safer at the shelters than at some random person's home who may or may not feed them, keep them indoors, etc. That is why the shelters pick them up from the streets, to make sure they are somewhat taken care of, even if it's not the same as having a real loving home.Originally Posted by Degu_2009
He also just said that in the contract they have a warrant to enter your home at any time for any reason to see if you still have the cat and are taking care of it.
THAT. IS. CRAZY.
I hope this wasnt directed at me - just trying to explain to Carolina that in idiomatic American English - it is figurative not literal.Originally Posted by AbbysMom
Just a reminder to all members, this is a worldwide community. There are quite a few posters here for which English is not their first language. "Figures of speech" in one country could be taken quite literally in another. We expect all members to be respectful of different languages and cultures.
Naw don't worry, I think it was directed at me.Originally Posted by AddieBee
I hope this wasnt directed at me - just trying to explain to Carolina that in idiomatic American English - it is figurative not literal.
Beyond the possibility of not being able to provide for her in the future, because living off your savings can deplete your savings fast, an unemployed person with lots of money that is not willing to disclose the source of that money would be cause to worry.Originally Posted by Going Nova
I wouldn't adopt a cat out to an unemployed person either. I put a lot of time and money into making the cats I pick up adoptable... certainly more than I would make back from an adoption fee. Unless he wants to share his financial background with the shelter, I really don't blame them for turning him down.
In my area, there are many people out of jobs, and losing their homes, and the number of pets being abandoned is increasing. Even those who have no abandoned their pets, are declining treatment at vet visits (this part I overheard at my vet's office).
What? He never once said that he wouldn't disclose information about his money. I told you it was savings, he worked for it, he had a job in a sausage factory and he saved up. He has quite a bit of savings. Not THAT much, not like $20,000 or anything crazy like that. But he's been able to live off of it for quite a while. And he IS looking for work.Originally Posted by bookworm
Beyond the possibility of not being able to provide for her in the future, because living off your savings can deplete your savings fast, an unemployed person with lots of money that is not willing to disclose the source of that money would be cause to worry.
It isn't uncommon for people who have lots of money and no job to be invoved in criminal stuff. Not saying that your friend is, just that it doesn't look good on an application. They aren't going to want the cat to be locked up alone in an apartment if the owner is suddenly carted off to jail.
His parents don't support him. He has his own money. Can't anyone learn how to read a thread? No offense. I hate having to repeat myself when people can just read my posts.Originally Posted by AddieBee
Imagine the bind we're in here in Michigan with an unofficial jobless or underemployment rate of 20 percent... joblessness is a reason to reject an adoption applicant, money in the bank or not. A student being supported by parents - not a good candidate, unless the parents adopt the animal and agree to be responsible for it. No transport would not read well to the rescue or shelter.
How ironic. I notice you didn't address any of the arguments I presented regarding why I wouldn't adopt to someone without an income, instead opting to go on and on about how it's "crazy".Originally Posted by Degu_2009
His parents don't support him. He has his own money. Can't anyone learn how to read a thread? No offense.
I think that we all understand that.Originally Posted by Degu_2009
His parents don't support him. He has his own money. Can't anyone learn how to read a thread? No offense. I hate having to repeat myself when people can just read my posts.
Because I didn't want to argue with you. Shelters complain about being full of cats yet they refuse to let people adopt for stupid reasons. He is looking for work and he has plenty of money. It's apparent he has money because somehow he can pay rent and bills and buy food, ect....Originally Posted by Going Nova
How ironic. I notice you didn't address any of the arguments I presented regarding why I wouldn't adopt to someone without an income, instead opting to go on and on about how it's "crazy".
If you really can't understand why someone wouldn't want to adopt to a person without income, then I don't know what to tell you.
What happens when you have a job and adopt a cat, and then lose that job?Originally Posted by ut0pia
He may have money but in this economy there is no telling whether he will be able to get a job. Savings are not considered income unless you are living off of the interest rate of your checking account...
Shelters prefer to keep the cats than perpetuate the problem by adopting them to people who might return them later or fail to care for them properly...