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post #31 of 40
9/1/09 at 11:36am
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Originally Posted by mrblanche View Post
Once you are Jewish, you are always Jewish, no matter what you believe in the area of religion.
Technically, that's not true.

Jews are an unusual ethnoreligious group, that have had people debating to this day, what a Jew really is. What really isn't up for debate, however, is that while someone might have a distinct family lineage that seems to create their "jewishness", the reality is that no matter your family history, you're only a Jew if you're practicing Jewish Law. Torah is the Jews' covenant with God. Jesus is a Christian's covenant with God. Any members of a Christian church, that presumably accept Jesus as a messianic figure, are not Jews, regardless of their lineage.
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post #32 of 40
9/1/09 at 11:37am
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Originally Posted by mrblanche View Post
Once you are Jewish, you are always Jewish, no matter what you believe in the area of religion.
My apologies - I should have said they no longer "practice the Jewish religion". You got me!
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post #33 of 40
9/1/09 at 12:05pm
Not true KEycube, that is your opinion.

Someone, quick, tell Jesus that he is not a Jew.
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post #34 of 40
9/1/09 at 12:17pm

If need be, off-topic posts will be deleted.
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post #35 of 40
9/1/09 at 12:23pm
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
Not true KEycube, that is your opinion.

Someone, quick, tell Jesus that he is not a Jew.
Actually, any Rabbi will likely tell you the same thing. I'm not in the business of spewing religious hyperbole, merely stating the way it is. Sorry if it doesn't square with your "Even the Jews love Jesus!" ideology, but that just isn't how it works.

Yes, I'm sure this will be deleted, but I think accuracy has its place, if for just a few minutes.
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post #36 of 40
9/1/09 at 12:23pm
Sorry Trish - I'm contributing to the delinquency.
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post #37 of 40
9/1/09 at 1:01pm
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
You mean that black dude? I thought he only had one legal firearm he was carrying.
Well, the revolver in the bianchi holster on his left hip might not have been legal, I'm not privy to that information. (sorry, bein' a wiseguy)

He did have at least one handgun, and in one photo he appeared to have a second wallet, which could also have been a permit folder, or a wallet holster for a smaller pistol. He was carrying at least 2.

And, once they finally found out his name (he declined to give it that day), it was discovered that he is a congregate of the OP church, whose pastor seems just a tad bit extreme, if not nutty.
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post #38 of 40
9/1/09 at 2:02pm
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Originally Posted by Keycube View Post
Actually, any Rabbi will likely tell you the same thing. I'm not in the business of spewing religious hyperbole, merely stating the way it is. Sorry if it doesn't square with your "Even the Jews love Jesus!" ideology, but that just isn't how it works.

Yes, I'm sure this will be deleted, but I think accuracy has its place, if for just a few minutes.
I'm sure the Rabbi's would.



On topic, I wll take your word for it Skippy. I did find a video this morning that said something about more than one firearm the guy was carrying.
It was amusing, the video was on MSNBC and they, very meticuously edited out skin color and just showed the firearms and his clothes with no skin showing and called him a "white racist".
In fact, I will see if I can find the two video's.
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post #39 of 40
9/15/09 at 3:23pm
IMO, that minister should be "disbarred" or whatever it would be called and the church should lose their tax-exempt status
But I guess it's religious freedom. He can say whatever he wants, one can only hope and pray that his "flock" won't be a bunch of sheep and swallow his malarcky I never could figure out how Hitler took over - seems like they would've locked him up
I have a unique background in religion - raised Nazarene, but my dad is a combination of native traditions and Catholicism. I'm baptized a Methodist because I like the freedom of not having to judge.
As for churches, I went to the Nashville Church (sometimes considered too alternative/not mainstream) in TN & loved their teaching and practices. But I've gone to Southern Baptist churches (mainstream) with my in-laws and left upset. One 4th of July weekend, I went to SB services & they sang nothing but patriotic songs and just praised America and the True Chosen and Americans as the true chosen people....and my heart thought, it's like the bumper sticker says..."Yes, I love my country but I think it's time we start seeing other people"
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post #40 of 40
9/16/09 at 8:52am
According to the 501 (c) 3 rules for tax exempt organizations, LIKE CHURCHES!, they are supposed to stay away from partisan politics. That means they can't endorse candidates or political parties and keep their non-profit status.

Interesting how some folks have fits over prayer in school or "God" on our currency, citing separation of church and state, but don't have the same problems when it comes to candidate endorsement from the pulpit, which is also mixing church and state.
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