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post #31 of 57
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Originally Posted by mrblanche View Post
Your description of his behavior is very close to what happened to Sterling after one of his vaccination. We discovered him the next morning huddled down in the closet, unwilling to move, with a fever. We took him to the vet, who gave him an injection (possibly metacam), and by the next day, he was pretty much back to normal. But we thought he was dying at first!
If you think your cat has had the metacam injection, I recommend you find out for sure.

Metacam can cause kidney failure in cats, and once a cat has had the one time metacam injection, I'm pretty sure, should never ever have metacam in any form, again.

I know many will disagree with me. But I am one of those who is against metacam use in cats.
post #32 of 57
Thread Starter 
Isn't Metacam used as pain management?
post #33 of 57
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I know many will disagree with me. But I am one of those who is against metacam use in cats.
No disagreement from me. I have it on my cats' charts to NEVER give it unless I specifically request it. That's not likely to happen!
post #34 of 57
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Originally Posted by otto View Post
If you think your cat has had the metacam injection, I recommend you find out for sure.

Metacam can cause kidney failure in cats, and once a cat has had the one time metacam injection, I'm pretty sure, should never ever have metacam in any form, again.

I know many will disagree with me. But I am one of those who is against metacam use in cats.
I'm another one against Metacam. I'm positive that it's what put my kitty into renal failure. I'm finding more and more vets are agreeing with me when I mention that I refuse to give it to my cats, but too many still give it like it's nothing. Even the FDA disapproved it's use in cats but that doesn't stop them.
post #35 of 57
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Originally Posted by Leto86 View Post
Isn't Metacam used as pain management?
Metacam is label and approved in the USA for use in dogs only. It is very difficult to work out a safe dose for cats, for one thing, for another, it's just not worth the risk, IMO.

At the very least, blood work should be done to check kidney function before using metacam in a cat.

burpenex, tramadol and torbogesic are safe short term pain medications for cats.
post #36 of 57
I'm not certain that's what they used, and since they did it gratis, it's not on the records, either.
post #37 of 57
that Jasper continues to improve!
post #38 of 57
Thread Starter 
Wow.

We've used Metacam several times... mostly for amputations or legs with metal pins in it... I've never seen a negative side effect so far.
I never heard that it caused any seriously bad side effects like renal failure.
post #39 of 57
I have seen the bad side of Metacam and will never give it to my cats.
You should see all the cars that have CRF from it in the groups.
post #40 of 57
Now, I realize, that anyone can find something to substantiate any claim, on the internet.

but here is one link against metacam use in cats, and there are many more out there if you care to do a search.

http://www.metacamkills.com/

There are as many who say it's safe as who say it is not safe.

As for me, I will not, ever, allow metacam to be used in my cats.

There are enough other choices to make taking such a risk unnecessary, IMO.

(Leto86-I apologize for the hijack of your thread!)
post #41 of 57
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Originally Posted by Leto86 View Post
Wow.

We've used Metacam several times... mostly for amputations or legs with metal pins in it... I've never seen a negative side effect so far.
I never heard that it caused any seriously bad side effects like renal failure.
This website says it all.

http://www.metacamkills.com/

I don't mean to scare anyone, just to make people aware as I wish I would have known before my cat was treated with it.
post #42 of 57
There are some cases that only Metacam will do it... if it is the only choice, kitty parents shouldn't feel guilty about using it...
post #43 of 57
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Originally Posted by carolinalima View Post
There are some cases that only Metacam will do it... if it is the only choice, kitty parents shouldn't feel guilty about using it...
I agree. I just think that the vet should be explaining the risks to the kitty parents so the kitty parents can make an informed decision. There aren't a lot of other options available, but there are a few. When pain relief is required, I prefer to try Buprenex or Tramadol before Metacam. Non-drug therapies like heated beds also come in handy, depending on the type of pain and the cause of the pain. In terminal cases or cases where an anti-inflammatory like Metacam is the only option, the vets need to be very careful about the dosing--my vet provides pre-measured syringes to prevent overdose.
post #44 of 57
The problem is, even in premeasured syringes, the doses cannot be exact, because the medicine is made for dogs and dog weights. Cat's kidneys just cannot handle the med.

You're right that vets should give full disclosure when prescribing metacam for cats.

In a "nothing to lose" situation perhaps metacam might be okay. but if that is the case, buprenex or tramadol, or even torbogesic could be used also. The difference is, I guess, that metacam is an every two days med, where as buprenex is twice a day. So in a cat difficult to medicate, if this cat has nothing to lose, but pain, for her last days, perhaps metacam might be a viable option.

And the metacam shot, used in surgical cases, is a one time only shot. Meaning one time only, ever.

Metacam use in cats is here. A lot of vets use it. I know a vet tech who goes practically rabid when someone speaks up against metacam. Clients have a choice. They can accept the vet's prescription of treatment, and hope their cat is one of the lucky ones or they can say, no metacam in my cats.

But I realize I'm harping (sorry), so I won't say any more on the subject, in this thread at least.

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post #45 of 57
Wait, sorry to hijack this thread, but what's wrong with Torbogesic? It was prescribed for my 5 lb tom kitten when he was neutered.
post #46 of 57
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Originally Posted by SamhainBorn View Post
Wait, sorry to hijack this thread, but what's wrong with Torbogesic? It was prescribed for my 5 lb tom kitten when he was neutered.

Nothing wrong with torbogesic. A very effective short term pain medication for cats. I think I added the "even" only because it's not used as often now as it once was.
post #47 of 57
Thread Starter 
Vet gave him a clear on the FIP.

He thinks it was an infection somewhere... dunno. His temp was still high, but 103 is nothing compared to the 106 it was.
He gave him another shot of the antibiotic and told me to call if he didn't change.

He's getting around pretty well.. jumping up on the couch, onto the bed, and all over the place. Only place I haven't seen him go is up the stairs.
post #48 of 57
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Originally Posted by Leto86 View Post
Vet gave him a clear on the FIP.

He thinks it was an infection somewhere... dunno. His temp was still high, but 103 is nothing compared to the 106 it was.
He gave him another shot of the antibiotic and told me to call if he didn't change.

He's getting around pretty well.. jumping up on the couch, onto the bed, and all over the place. Only place I haven't seen him go is up the stairs.
thank GOD!!!!!!! Oh my goodness!!!!!!!
Send a hug to your vet for us, and another one for you!!!
post #49 of 57
Thread Starter 
THanks everyone for the good thoughts and vibes and everything. I was really worried it was something really serious and I was going to lose the evil punk.
post #50 of 57
Oh, I am so glad! Thanks for giving us the happy news! Hope Jasper has turned the corner now and on his way to complete recovery!
post #51 of 57
I'm so glad to hear Jasper's doing better
post #52 of 57
Yay! I'm so pleased for you!!! Way to go Jasper, now you go be an evil punk and your Meowmy won't care!
post #53 of 57
That was such great news to read as I got to the end of reading this. I am so happy Jasper is doing so much better and it wasnt FIP.

Sending so many many vibes that he continues to feel better
post #54 of 57
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Originally Posted by Leto86 View Post
Vet gave him a clear on the FIP.

He thinks it was an infection somewhere... dunno. His temp was still high, but 103 is nothing compared to the 106 it was.
He gave him another shot of the antibiotic and told me to call if he didn't change.

He's getting around pretty well.. jumping up on the couch, onto the bed, and all over the place. Only place I haven't seen him go is up the stairs.
That is great news

I'm glad he's on the mend, and continued for the lil furball.
post #55 of 57
This may sound dumb but is it possible that he got into something upstairs that made him sick and hes associating the upstairs with something bad!?! I just wanted to throw that out there cuz I know when Franklin fell off the bed when he was a puppy (he was chasing the cat and we couldnt catch him in time) he wouldnt go into the bedroom for a while after that! So maybe your "evil kitty" got into something to make him sick...But I hope everything goes good and he keeps getting better! Much luck and good vibes!
post #56 of 57
A big YAY for Jasper! Glad everything has turned out so well.
post #57 of 57
It's been a couple of days.... How is little Jasper doing??
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