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post #1 of 41
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Maybe he needs to get his teleprompter out again. I suspect this particular sound bite will haunt him for years.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTVjab2cHgk

Gibb's attempt to explain:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxZjKspqwlE
post #2 of 41
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Originally Posted by mrblanche View Post
Maybe he needs to get his teleprompter out again. I suspect this particular sound bite will haunt him for years.
Any idea what language "wee wee'd" comes from?
post #3 of 41
"This Little Piggie Went to Market, this little piggie stayed home, this little piggie had roast beef, this little piggie had none, this little piggie went wee, wee, wee all the way home.

IMO, Barack is calling all of us that don't like his health care plan, PIGS.

HOW RUDE!
post #4 of 41
OMG, that is TOO funny! And Gibbs just made it worse!

I'm sorry, I don't care who would have said that it would be just hysterical!! I guess it could have been worse though......
post #5 of 41
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Originally Posted by Skippymjp View Post
Any idea what language "wee wee'd" comes from?
"wee wee" was my parent's euphamism for going pee when I was a child. Maybe it means PO'd?
post #6 of 41
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
"This Little Piggie Went to Market, this little piggie stayed home, this little piggie had roast beef, this little piggie had none, this little piggie went wee, wee, wee all the way home.

IMO, Barack is calling all of us that don't like his health care plan, PIGS.

HOW RUDE!
I know you're joking But he only indicated "people in Washington".

I do agree that he meant "pissed off" (aka upset).
post #7 of 41
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It was an amazingly inept statement for a man with a reputation for thoughtful expression. This will go down with "acted stupidly," and should be a real concern to the White House. You do NOT want to get a reputation for this kind of statement in Washington, no matter what condition the people there might be in.

And the problem might actually be Washington itself. Even Molly Ivins refused to stay there for any length of time. She said that the reporters and politicians get in the habit of talking to each other all the time, to the point that they think they're having a real conversation when all they're doing is entertaining each other.
post #8 of 41
Where were all of you when the first "Bushism" book was published?

Obama - 1 statement
Bush - an entire book of statements

post #9 of 41
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Yes, well, Bush supporters put up with 8 years of abuse, I guess what goes around comes around.

I said throughout the Bush administration that I missed being able to diagram Bill Clinton's sentences, even when he spoke extemporaneously. I was hoping Obama would be similarly well-spoken; that's a very good example for young people (and I'm speaking here as a former English teacher, frustrated with the current lack of correct speech and writing). And generally, he does quite well, although he is beginning to get a reputation for shooting his mouth off half-cocked. Some say Obama's problem is his overconfidence in his ability to persuade with his speech.

I am told by people who know (and I have had acquaintances who were friends of George Bush and some who were friends of Bill Clinton) that Bill was the same in public and in private, always extremely well-spoken, but George Bush in private comes off as much more intelligent and well-spoken than he does in public. Maybe he should have gotten a permanent teleprompter, too!
post #10 of 41
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Originally Posted by mrblanche View Post
Yes, well, Bush supporters put up with 8 years of abuse, I guess what goes around comes around.
Absolutely! Which is why I'm not trying to judge his statement. I'll just keep a running tally.
post #11 of 41
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Originally Posted by mrblanche View Post
Yes, well, Bush supporters put up with 8 years of abuse, I guess what goes around comes around.

I said throughout the Bush administration that I missed being able to diagram the Bill Clinton's sentences, even when he spoke extemporaneously. I was hoping Obama would be similarly well-spoken; that's a very good example for young people (and I'm speaking here as a former English teacher, frustrated with the current lack of correct speech and writing). And generally, he does quite well, although he is beginning to get a reputation for shooting his mouth off half-cocked. Some say Obama's problem is his overconfidence in his ability to persuade with his speech.

I am told by people who know (and I have had acquaintances who were friends of George Bush and some who were friends of Bill Clinton) that Bill was the same in public and in private, always extremely well-spoken, but George Bush in private comes off as much more intelligent and well-spoken than he does in public. Maybe he should have gotten a permanent teleprompter, too!
I loved that both Clinton & Bush could poke a little fun at themselves, and were not afraid to show their human side. Not so with Obama. He takes himself way too seriously. He can't apologize when he screws up. He can't even place his damn teleprompters so that it looks like he is talking to the camera when he's giving a speech. Instead he looks shifty, like he is afraid to make eye contact, and therefore comes off as insincere. These are not mistakes that either Clinton or Bush would have made.

I just don't like him. I don't like the tax cheats he put in his cabinet - especially when one (Geithner) is the high boss of the IRS. I don't trust his lack of experience in governing anything. I don't like his relationships - Ayers, Wright, Rezko. I don't like that he came from the notoriously corrupt Chicago political machine. I don't like his lack of experience, and obvious lack of protocol experience when dealing with foreign dignitaries. And I certainly don't like his arrogance and his total inability to be contrite when the need arises ("I could have callibrated my words differently") - What? What's wrong with, "I spoke out of turn, without knowing all the facts, and for that I'm sorry"?

Compared to every other President (yes, even Carter) I've experienced during my lifetime, he comes off as insincere, inept, ill-informed, inexperienced and unprepared for the job of leading this country in tough times.

Realizing that everyone has some redeeming good qualities, I will say that he appears to be a devoted family man who loves his wife and children very much.
post #12 of 41
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Fortunately, the office usually makes the man and not vice-versa. We've had great Presidents who showed no indication of that before their election or inauguration, such as Harry Truman.

A few Presidents have shown that their basic character flaws made them unfit for the office, no matter what happened. A good example would be Ulysses S. Grant.
post #13 of 41
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Originally Posted by mrblanche View Post
It was an amazingly inept statement for a man with a reputation for thoughtful expression. This will go down with "acted stupidly," and should be a real concern to the White House. You do NOT want to get a reputation for this kind of statement in Washington, no matter what condition the people there might be in.

And the problem might actually be Washington itself. Even Molly Ivins refused to stay there for any length of time. She said that the reporters and politicians get in the habit of talking to each other all the time, to the point that they think they're having a real conversation when all they're doing is entertaining each other.
I personally, as an Obama supporter, see this as him being real. How many of us know exactly what word to use at exactly the right time, all the time? So he said "wee wee'd up" instead of a more eloquent term. You reference someone else in this post saying they think they're having a real conversation when all they're doing is entertaining each other and I have to think that you see this as a problem, as I do. Politicians are so busy paying lip service to this group and that person that everything they say comes out sounding rehearsed and insincere. IMO, Obama saying something like this shows, to me, that he doesn't care if he isn't perfect all the time, he's a regular person, just like me.

And for the record, I think he was trying to get across that people in Washington get their panties in a twist about something every August
post #14 of 41
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Originally Posted by mrblanche View Post
Maybe he needs to get his teleprompter out again. I suspect this particular sound bite will haunt him for years.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTVjab2cHgk

Gibb's attempt to explain:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxZjKspqwlE
do you honestly think this will haunt him for years???

Until Harding said it in his campaign slogan, "normalcy" was not a word in the English dictionary...but his misuse of the language didn't haunt him, it in fact won him the presidency..how is this that much different? For all we know "we weed up" will become a new word
post #15 of 41
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Originally Posted by ut0pia View Post
do you honestly think this will haunt him for years???

Until Harding said it in his campaign slogan, "normalcy" was not a word in the English dictionary...but his misuse of the language didn't haunt him, it in fact won him the presidency..how is this that much different? For all we know "we weed up" will become a new word
Oh please, NOooooooooo! Certainly not in my household!
post #16 of 41
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Originally Posted by katiemae1277 View Post
I personally, as an Obama supporter, see this as him being real. How many of us know exactly what word to use at exactly the right time, all the time? So he said "wee wee'd up" instead of a more eloquent term. You reference someone else in this post saying they think they're having a real conversation when all they're doing is entertaining each other and I have to think that you see this as a problem, as I do. Politicians are so busy paying lip service to this group and that person that everything they say comes out sounding rehearsed and insincere. IMO, Obama saying something like this shows, to me, that he doesn't care if he isn't perfect all the time, he's a regular person, just like me.

And for the record, I think he was trying to get across that people in Washington get their panties in a twist about something every August
I couldn't believe folks got their panties in a twist about what he said.

I honestly don't see it as a big deal and have heard much worse. Beats me why it is even brought up.
post #17 of 41
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Originally Posted by ut0pia View Post
For all we know "we wee'd up" will become a new word
I think it's kind of cute actually! It seemed the appropriate thing to say given the whole tone of his speech: light humour.
post #18 of 41
It, definitely, got people's mind off the fact that their health care will be rationed soon.
post #19 of 41
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
It, definitely, got people's mind off the fact that their health care will be rationed soon.
Cindy, sometimes you crack me up! I hope I get to Vegas one day, I want to do lunch.
post #20 of 41
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Originally Posted by Yosemite View Post
I honestly don't see it as a big deal and have heard much worse. Beats me why it is even brought up.
I really don't think it is a big deal (I've got bigger fish to fry with Obama)...but it IS funny! It's like hearing the pres say in the middle of a press conference, "I'm sorry, I gotta go poopy".
post #21 of 41
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Originally Posted by Yosemite View Post
I couldn't believe folks got their panties in a twist about what he said.

I honestly don't see it as a big deal and have heard much worse. Beats me why it is even brought up.
So, now you know why Bush supporters didn't get upset about "Bushisms," right? It depends on which side of the fence you're sitting.
post #22 of 41
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Originally Posted by Yosemite View Post
Cindy, sometimes you crack me up! I hope I get to Vegas one day, I want to do lunch.
You're on Linda.
post #23 of 41
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Originally Posted by mrblanche View Post
So, now you know why Bush supporters didn't get upset about "Bushisms," right? It depends on which side of the fence you're sitting.
Well for me, being Canadian, I'm straddling the fence and couldn't care less about Republican versus Democrat. As in Canadian politics, I care more about the person in power and what they are trying to do rather than which party they belong to or what speaking errors they may make. Heck, our Stephen Harper is a complete buffoon IMO. As for Bushisms, there were enough of those around to keep us entertained for years. I personally thought Bush seemed rather uneducated considering he was supposed to have graduated from one of the finer educational institutions in America. Obama certainly seems to be more "worldly" and more knowledgeable to me.
post #24 of 41
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Originally Posted by mrblanche View Post
So, now you know why Bush supporters didn't get upset about "Bushisms," right? It depends on which side of the fence you're sitting.
I LOVED Bushisms. "First I would like to spank the teachers" will live on with me always.
post #25 of 41
Bush didn't know how to laugh at himself....I think that was the biggest reason why people made such a big deal about his gaffs. It was like, he said something he obviously didn't mean to say, then continued on with just as much confidence and walked away from the podium with his nose in the air, not knowing how to be cool about it lol...It looked like he was putting on a face for everyone. Obama is just a better actor and can get himself out of awkward situations with a little more grace than Bush did.
These things are not partisan, I don't think it matters which side of the fence you are on. I may love Obama's politics but dislike his press behavior, am I not allowed to do that?
post #26 of 41
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Originally Posted by Yosemite View Post
I personally thought Bush seemed rather uneducated considering he was supposed to have graduated from one of the finer educational institutions in America. Obama certainly seems to be more "worldly" and more knowledgeable to me.
Did you know that Bush got into Yale as a child of a prominent graduate, but he got into Harvard on a competitive basis? Did you know his grades at Yale were as good or better than Gore's (but, I don't think as good as Clinton's)? And he did quite well at Harvard, too.

A lot of what you saw in public was his "Aw, shucks" act that worked well in Texas. Not so well in DC. And certainly not so well with the press, who are (by their own admission) inclined to dislike Republicans.

A lot of comedians are finding that Obama doesn't translate well to comedy, and even among his friends is known as having almost no sense of humor.

But it's so early in his Presidency, nothing is set in stone yet. He may yet live up to the hopes so many of us had for him.
post #27 of 41
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Originally Posted by ut0pia View Post
Bush didn't know how to laugh at himself....I think that was the biggest reason why people made such a big deal about his gaffs. It was like, he said something he obviously didn't mean to say, then continued on with just as much confidence and walked away from the podium with his nose in the air, not knowing how to be cool about it lol...It looked like he was putting on a face for everyone. Obama is just a better actor and can get himself out of awkward situations with a little more grace than Bush did.
These things are not partisan, I don't think it matters which side of the fence you are on. I may love Obama's politics but dislike his press behavior, am I not allowed to do that?

I think Bush knew how to "laugh at himself" very well, I saw him do it many times.
Now, IMO, Barack is the one with his nose in the air. There is a widely cirulated picture of him doing just that.

Of course these things are "partisan", we tend to make allowances for people we like and people we don't support, not so much.
post #28 of 41
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Originally Posted by mrblanche View Post
Did you know that Bush got into Yale as a child of a prominent graduate, but he got into Harvard on a competitive basis? Did you know his grades at Yale were as good or better than Gore's (but, I don't think as good as Clinton's)? And he did quite well at Harvard, too.
I find that to be almost incredible. Makes me wonder if the professors were bribed.
post #29 of 41
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Originally Posted by Yosemite View Post
I find that to be almost incredible. Makes me wonder if the professors were bribed.
Yes, the popular press did a great job of talking him down.
post #30 of 41
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Originally Posted by ut0pia View Post
Bush didn't know how to laugh at himself....I think that was the biggest reason why people made such a big deal about his gaffs. It was like, he said something he obviously didn't mean to say, then continued on with just as much confidence and walked away from the podium with his nose in the air, not knowing how to be cool about it lol...It looked like he was putting on a face for everyone. Obama is just a better actor and can get himself out of awkward situations with a little more grace than Bush did.
These things are not partisan, I don't think it matters which side of the fence you are on. I may love Obama's politics but dislike his press behavior, am I not allowed to do that?
Wow, you didn't see the same Bush I saw. That's the one thing I loved about Bush was his sense of humor and his ability to laugh at himself. The 2006 Radio and TV Correspondent's Dinner speech is a good example - look for it on YouTube.

I didn't always agree with him or his politics, but he was much more human than Obama has shown to be so far.
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