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Would You WANT to See a Film with a Naked Fat Lady?

post #1 of 18
8/17/09 at 2:57pm
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Hopefully to lighten things up around here...

Saw a German film last night entitled "Cloud 9" with a unknown (at least to Americans) cast. It was a wonderful film concerning a 67 year old woman who though seemingly happily married for 30 yrs has an affair with a 76 yr old man. The write-up i read outside the theatre, described her body as "pillowly" and unlike most mainstream films there was no alteration of body parts and nothing was left unseen--trying avoid certain words here.

It was so refreshing to me at least to seem love/lust in full bloom in old age and to see not-so-perfect bodies. Sadly, there was a sad ending which i will not spoil. The ending was a bit of a cautionary tale, but that did not take away from the premise, that love is real at any age-not just for the young!

After the film I found out that there was no screenplay all, acting was off the cuff.

I would especially love to hear from the Europeans here as to what the reaction was across the pond--apparently it was released in Europe in 2008.
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post #2 of 18
8/17/09 at 3:50pm
Honestly, when I was much younger and had more body image issues (thinking I was "fat" when I was 5'6" and 120 lbs. HA!), I'm sure I would have had the "ew" reaction. But now being 37 and much more accepting of my body being what it is, fluffy and all, I really see how unrealistic Hollywood really is. Heck, Angelina Jolie is still the most beautiful woman in the world IMO, but she's tossed aside in the media and for movie roles for the new beauties of the day - Megan Fox and Olivia Wilde, since she's pushing 40 and *gasp* had kids of her own.

Love is beautiful no matter what age or physique involved. Bravo to the filmmakers who realized that and celebrate it!
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post #3 of 18
8/17/09 at 5:30pm
Nope- I really have no desire to be looking at naked men or women - fat or not. Hubby has all I need to be looking at and I'm all he needs to be looking at and we both agree.
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post #4 of 18
8/17/09 at 6:04pm
Honestly, I don't want to see ANY nakedness in a movie, man/woman, fat/thin, tall/short, etc.

I always feel uncomfortable during love scenes. But I have issues. lol
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post #5 of 18
8/17/09 at 8:57pm
I see a fat naked person every time I take a shower. It is nice to be represented.
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post #6 of 18
8/17/09 at 9:01pm
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Originally Posted by Mom of Franz View Post
The write-up i read outside the theatre, described her body as "pillowly" and unlike most mainstream films there was no alteration of body parts and nothing was left unseen--trying avoid certain words here.

It was so refreshing to me at least to seem love/lust in full bloom in old age and to see not-so-perfect bodies. Sadly, there was a sad ending which i will not spoil. The ending was a bit of a cautionary tale, but that did not take away from the premise, that love is real at any age-not just for the young!
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I see a fat naked person every time I take a shower. It is nice to be represented.
Bravo to both of the above comments.

I would love to see more "realism" portrayed in movies.... Personally, I love the Dove commercials, and have no issues with any shape/size/age of nakedness.

We are all beautiful in our own way
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post #7 of 18
8/17/09 at 9:01pm
lol to tell you my honest opinion I think we all need to get over the "ew" reaction when we see nudity. It is completely natural. I was raised in eastern europe, my grandmother being the most social elderly lady who while talking to her retired buddies always comments on young girls as she sees them walking around about how they shouldn't be wearing so much revealing clothes if their figure is less than perfect, if fat is showing outside...Now if they have the body of models she sees nothing wrong with it. My grandmother is 65, she is not an ounce overweight to this day and never has been..however she would have a heart attack if someone other than herself looked at her either naked or even in underwear because she thinks clothes make her look presentable and hide her imperfections.. Honestly I love my grandmother but she can be soo hung up in her socially upheld ideals.. You can't imagine the affect this has had on me growing up being judged as I was a slightly overweight kid. She always tried to tell my mom to put me on a diet..
I think we all need to accept ourselves the way we are, hiding under uncomfortable clothes or getting plastic surgery is just making us more artificial and further away from being simply human...So although I might not enjoy seeing a less than perfect 67 year old woman naked on TV, I surely wouldn't make a fuss or be grossed out about it.
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post #8 of 18
8/18/09 at 6:43pm
Naked people don't bother me - fat/skinny, black/white, tall/short - whatever.

I probably would support making clothes illegal!

I'd definitely see this flick
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post #9 of 18
8/19/09 at 1:48am
I haven't read any negative reviews in Germany, and right now the film is being shown at a lot of open air summer film festivals in our area. Nudity isn't an "issue" here, at any age, and you see some full-frontal nudity on prime time television. We've got an artificial lake in our small town which is also popular with people from outside our county, and nobody seems to object to the nudist section (one shore of it).

One thing that I've noticed here (Germany/other European countries) is that more older actresses seem to be able to continue to get "juicy"/romantic roles in films than U.S. actresses do once they're past 40. Two German actresses who've worked internationally, Marianne Sägebrecht, whose weight has never prevented her from playing romantic roles, and Senta Berger, come to mind.

I don't think Europeans have less trouble with their body image than Americans do (eating disorders are just as prevalent), but there doesn't seem to be the same weird idea that age or weight preclude romantic relationships.

Now that the Baby Boomers have reached a "certain age", we may see more films like this.
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post #10 of 18
8/20/09 at 11:02am
I wouldn't have a problem with it. In fact, I think what you've described sounds sweet.

I DO have a problem with some of the people that frequent the same lake as I do. Anytime someone tries to cram themselves into something that doesn't fit it does gross me out. It's not the body type it's that when people of any body type wear clothing several sizes too small I think it looks skanky. Sadly, I have to see this a lot at the public lake. It seems those people are the same ones who scream at their unruly children and get drunk on a beach where alcohol is banned. I swear I'd pay extra to go to a beach where the children and the parents can behave themselves. Totally off point but it's been bugging me.
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post #11 of 18
8/20/09 at 4:14pm
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Originally Posted by howtoholdacat View Post
I wouldn't have a problem with it. In fact, I think what you've described sounds sweet.

I DO have a problem with some of the people that frequent the same lake as I do. Anytime someone tries to cram themselves into something that doesn't fit it does gross me out. It's not the body type it's that when people of any body type wear clothing several sizes too small I think it looks skanky. Sadly, I have to see this a lot at the public lake. It seems those people are the same ones who scream at their unruly children and get drunk on a beach where alcohol is banned. I swear I'd pay extra to go to a beach where the children and the parents can behave themselves. Totally off point but it's been bugging me.
The above is kind of why I don't go to the beach. As soon as I take my shirt off and lay down I'm surrounded by people splashing water on me yelling, "Don't let him dry out!" and "He's beached, get him back in the water!"
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post #12 of 18
8/20/09 at 4:17pm
LOL I know what both of you above me are talking about!!! I go to the coast lines where it isnt' an official beach to swim there where there aren't any people
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post #13 of 18
8/21/09 at 2:30pm
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Originally Posted by Essayons89 View Post
The above is kind of why I don't go to the beach. As soon as I take my shirt off and lay down I'm surrounded by people splashing water on me yelling, "Don't let him dry out!" and "He's beached, get him back in the water!"
That cracked me up! It's also not quite what I was talking about but I had a good laugh all the same and I really needed a laugh!
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post #14 of 18
8/23/09 at 7:56pm
I'm not one to have any real interest in nudity in movies...it wouldn't bother me, though, I think.
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Originally Posted by howtoholdacat View Post
I DO have a problem with some of the people that frequent the same lake as I do. Anytime someone tries to cram themselves into something that doesn't fit it does gross me out. It's not the body type it's that when people of any body type wear clothing several sizes too small I think it looks skanky.
I know what you mean...I have a cousin-in-law that's about my size but squeezes herself into about two sizes smaller and shows more skin. It works about as well as you'd expect. She turns out to look kind of bulgy and trampy; I turn out to look, yeah, like I'm carrying around a bit extra, but IMO basically classy.

There was also a girl who I saw around a few times in undergrad, who was also carrying around quite a bit extra and didn't wear long enough shirts, to where her belly hung down past the hem of her shirt...now, I'm the last people in the universe to take cracks at someone's physique, that's not what this is about, I don't have a problem with people's size because to some extent that's just the hand you're dealt, but for crying out loud, play the hand better: get longer shirts or wear dresses. She probably could have worked out to be nice-looking if the What Not to Wear folks got ahold of her.
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The above is kind of why I don't go to the beach. As soon as I take my shirt off and lay down I'm surrounded by people splashing water on me yelling, "Don't let him dry out!" and "He's beached, get him back in the water!"
Ugh. That's just rude.
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post #15 of 18
8/28/09 at 3:38pm
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Originally Posted by jcat View Post
I haven't read any negative reviews in Germany, and right now the film is being shown at a lot of open air summer film festivals in our area. Nudity isn't an "issue" here, at any age, and you see some full-frontal nudity on prime time television. We've got an artificial lake in our small town which is also popular with people from outside our county, and nobody seems to object to the nudist section (one shore of it).

One thing that I've noticed here (Germany/other European countries) is that more older actresses seem to be able to continue to get "juicy"/romantic roles in films than U.S. actresses do once they're past 40. Two German actresses who've worked internationally, Marianne Sägebrecht, whose weight has never prevented her from playing romantic roles, and Senta Berger, come to mind.

I don't think Europeans have less trouble with their body image than Americans do (eating disorders are just as prevalent), but there doesn't seem to be the same weird idea that age or weight preclude romantic relationships.

Now that the Baby Boomers have reached a "certain age", we may see more films like this.
Jcatrish. I know this thread is a bit aged. I just read it fully and I allways wondered the Diff between USA and Yous'guys. ( ) I had the idea that Europe was more welcoming of the not so young.
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post #16 of 18
8/28/09 at 11:20pm
This is slightly off topic, but the county newspaper ran an article today about the nudist "beach" in our town. Apparently some of the male nudists put trunks on when they go in the water, because they're afraid the giant catfish in the lake will nibble. The catfish are bottom feeders, and the lake is deep, but they get up to two meters (6 1/5 ft.) in length.
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post #17 of 18
8/29/09 at 3:37am
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Ugh. That's just rude.
Twas a joke. I make fun of myself from time to time.
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post #18 of 18
8/30/09 at 10:56pm
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Apparently some of the male nudists put trunks on when they go in the water, because they're afraid the giant catfish in the lake will nibble.
What are they worried about...losing some of themselves, or that they might enjoy the swim too much?
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