Testing The Waters

Why should he have to tell the truth. He's only the president. [/sarcasm]

Thank goodness a lot of people are waking up, but I fear it is too late.

Looking for an island to buy and start a new life on, anyone interested in joining me? You'll have to work for your living, but you wont get taxed!

That is so true. If you want socialized health care where anyone can access health care regardless of their income or ability to pay, the money does have to come from somewhere, and that somewhere is through higher taxes. That's how we in Canada pay for our health care. Some of our lottery proceeds as well as taxes go to subsidizing our universal health care.

So far as Obama promising to not raise taxes while he was campaigning, he probably meant it at the time. However it's easy to make promises when you aren't actually in a situation to have to make good on them. It's another to actually try and fulfill that promise once you realize what's involved

For starters, how about not spending like a bunch of drunken sailors on shore leave?

Sounds good to me.

Of course he won't - he's lied from day one in the campaign, but no one would really listen to what he was saying. Now we all are paying the price. IMO he will be bringing the country down before the people realize what is going on with his "hidden agendas".

Too bad so many were blinded to the truth.

To some extent, I think this was just a couple of his guys running their mouths when they shouldn't have, without Obama's knowledge. Now, they MAY have been saying something that has been discussed in their private meetings or something, but if it was, they were speaking out of turn.

However, most of us remember Bill Clinton's solemn promise of a middle-class tax cut, and his sad admission that it wasn't going to happen.

And George Bush largely lost the 1992 election for raising taxes when he said he wouldn't. ("Read my lips. NO ... NEW ... TAXES."

So, he hasn't actually said he's going to raise taxes (on families making < $250,000, which is what he actually said), but because he hasn't actually come out and denied it (and wasn't even he that was saying it), you've decided that he's lying through his teeth? So, was John McCain lying through his teeth, too?

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...oes_again.html


Interestingly, I found this in the same article quoted above:

Learn something new every day.

Tell the people who are getting unemployment benefits only because the stimulus bill is paying them, or to their landlords, banks, grocery stores, etc who are getting paid rather than having to support these people living out on the streets. Or tell it to employees who didn't lose their job because of the stimulus money. We have about 20 at my University who were going to be laid off, but were spared. As for taxes, as I've pointed out before, unless you're making > 200K per year, your federal taxes have gone down this year.

We'll see. 3-1/2 years is a long time, especially in politics. Lots of people thought George Bush would be a one-term President. His father also looked like his 2nd term was almost an automatic thing. At this point, I'll give anybody's conjecture about the 2012 election (or even 2010) elections about as much credence as flipping a coin.

But McCain wasn't elected, and if he had been elected, I wouldn't be agreeing with all his policies either.

But Obama is going to try to tax our way out of this recession, and it hasn't worked in the past, and it won't work now.

I saw this posted elsewhere today, and I agree with nearly every word.

I would really love to see a list of politicians who have never lied, never stretched the truth, never broken a campaign promise for any reason. Can anyone provide such a list? Even one politician?

Now, did I say that? Or are you just twisting my words? It's not okay for any of them, Obama included. They should all be held accountable, not just the ones you don't like. And I honestly do believe that most if not all politicians will say and promise whatever it takes to get them elected. How else do you explain them shifting from one position to another at the drop of a hat?

Actually, we're already paying for people can't pay because they're going to emergency rooms when they have a problem, or they're on Medicaid. It's also costing more because people who don't have health insurance often wait until a situation is critical before seeking help, instead of getting preventive care along the way.

But Cindy accused President Obama of "lying through his teeth" for breaking a campaign promise that he hasn't actually broken yet. He promised not to raise taxes on people making < $250,000/yr and so far, he hasn't. So at least on the not raising taxes score, McCain and Obama have both kept their promise so far. My point though, was that both candidates were promising new spending programs and no new taxes. Senator McCain was also promising a balanced budget. Almost nobody believed that was possible even before the recession. So was John McCain "lying through his teeth" too or was he just making a campaign promise that he couldn't keep?

What a sad, sad letter. Apparently people who experience cultures outside the US, don't run companies, or never served in the military aren't 'real Americans' who are fit to be President. Then he goes on to make a lot of baseless assertions that are nothing more than his opinion and caps it off with a little fearmongering. Guess he wants us to believe that in 8 years the Obama stormtroopers will be kicking in the door of anyone that disagrees with the administration. Classy. Is there any evidence of this? AFAIK, even the guy standing around outside the town hall rally with a gun on his hip wasn't arrested. The message I got from that was that expressing your 1st (and 2nd) Amendment Rights is fine as long as you don't break the law.

I do have to wonder, did Lou Pritchett contact the administration and offer his services to show them how it's done after President Obama was elected, or is he just more interested in pointing out perceived flaws? Tearing things down is a lot easier than building them up.