When an animal gets sick, owner faces dilemma: Pay thousands in pet health care or forgo treatment
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| Ah, but many people (including me) do not consider pet insurance to be cost-effective. You will usually pay more in premiums over the life of the pet than you will ever spend on vet bills (at $20 a month, if your cat lives to be 15 you'll spend $3600 in premiums) |
| and most pet insurance plans don't cover very much. You usually end up paying about half the bill anyway. And they don't usually cover the really expensive procedures, such as kidney transplants (as mentioned in the article). |
| I definitely think all pet owners should have a savings account for pet emergencies. If they aren't capable of putting money in the bank every month, then I guess they'd have to go with insurance....but you always pay more for convenience. |
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Honestly, I don't fault a pet owner if they choose to euthanize over treating a seriously ill, old, or badly injured pet, as long as they've taken good care of their pet up to that point, and actually care enough to GO TO THE VET right away for a diagnosis. Those that just ignore the issue until their pet is half-dead, then just call for a euth appointment really bug me, though. I don't expect anyone to spend thousands on their pets, as long as they allow for normal expenses and are willing to spend a reasonable amount on vet care.
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True, but as you can see over and over, that $3600 can go really quickly in an emergency. If you have the funds to deal with emergencies, and are up to do so when it arises... your choice... but for me, it is much easier to pay $20/month than end up with a $4,000 bill.
Not true - it completely depends on the plan you choose. My plan for example: I pay $100 co-payment, + 20% of the illness cost - including whatever is necessary to cure the disease, including surgeries, tests, transportation, anesthesia, medication, etc.... You also choose the maximum amount the insurance is going to pay - mine is $7,500 per disease, $42,500 for the life of the pet. Say I have a disease that will cost $4,000 without the insurance - I would instead pay $880. MUCH MUCH more affordable that $4,000, and considerably less than 1/2 - actually less than 1/4 of the cost. One emergency that I had with Bugsy this year already paid for all my premiums this year. Again, not true - you might pay more, you might pay less; but you will ALWAYS be able to afford care, and that for me is the bottom line. In this economy, it is not a lot of people who can pop up 4-5,000 if they have an emergency with their pets tomorrow - we see that happening quite often, and you don't need to go too far to see that. Again, it is not for everybody, BUT, if you can't afford an emergency like that, insurance is a very low cost way to insure your peace of mind. |



- but don't have the money if something goes wrong and the cat needs a c- section. I suspect that these people also don't have the money to have the litter vaccinated, either.
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I have yet to find a health insurance for pets in Canada for $20 a month, never mind one that covers much of anything. We had one a few years back that was supposed to be good but it was much more than $20 per month and when I dug a little deeper into it, it appears there were many exceptions to what it would cover. So, with deductibles, non-coverage items, it turned out to not be a very good deal so we quit it.
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I don't expect anyone to spend thousands on their pets, as long as they allow for normal expenses and are willing to spend a reasonable amount on vet care.
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It depends. If the family has 6 kids, is on welfare, and Dad makes $20,000 a year, then I'd just be glad if they just take their cat to the vet for $20 worth of antibiotics. As long as they try their best. It's a personal choice based on your circumstances at the time, and I don't think anyone should feel too guilty (of course you'll always feel guilty) as long as they did all they could and were not neglectful.
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A quick look on petfinder and craigslist and in the newspaper reveals just how expendable pets are to our society. The reasons always vary, and the reasons are always justified by the person, even when those reasons would be completely off base and bizarre to most animal lovers, they make sense to that person and to them are perfectly reasonable.
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Maybe off topic.. Carolinalima, which insurance company do you use for your pets? I was looking for something that wasn't pre-pay/reimbursement.
I used pet insurance for the first year of each of my cats. It covered their spays and I ended up coming out ahead. Eventually I cancelled it, but I'm considering getting it again, in case something unforseen happens. When my cat Abby got Feline Leukemia we went close to $1000 on her treatments, since they were not covered by the insurance. It came to the point where treating her was prolonging her suffering, and we decided to have her put to sleep. That was a rough decision. I think each person has to weigh the options when deciding on expensive care- or any care. Are you delaying the inevitable or giving a longer, healthier life? |
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It depends. If the family has 6 kids, is on welfare, and Dad makes $20,000 a year, then I'd just be glad if they just take their cat to the vet for $20 worth of antibiotics. As long as they try their best. It's a personal choice based on your circumstances at the time, and I don't think anyone should feel too guilty (of course you'll always feel guilty) as long as they did all they could and were not neglectful.
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I am sorry, but IMO if you can not afford decent care, you should not have a pet. Having a pet is a privilege, not a right...
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| Besides, "people like that" WILL have pets no matter what we think. And, just consider how many cats would be put down if those kinds of people weren't allowed to have pets. |
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Actually NOT really ... Old age is/ wearing out is a NON preventive issue... and ER stuff ( lets see in just five yrs I have had one anaphalatic shock , one ingested toy, one constipation( likely will be a vet board issue as they diagnosed a new thing every 6 or so hours and did not figure out the real issue) , five utis ( sudden and NO crystals luckily), two seizures , and several vomiting/ allergic reactions in my house ... NON of them would be covered by any pet policy( I have checked all avail policies in my area many times) nor were preventable
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Ah, but many people (including me) do not consider pet insurance to be cost-effective. You will usually pay more in premiums over the life of the pet than you will ever spend on vet bills (at $20 a month, if your cat lives to be 15 you'll spend $3600 in premiums), and most pet insurance plans don't cover very much. You usually end up paying about half the bill anyway. And they don't usually cover the really expensive procedures, such as kidney transplants (as mentioned in the article).
I definitely think all pet owners should have a savings account for pet emergencies. If they aren't capable of putting money in the bank every month, then I guess they'd have to go with insurance....but you always pay more for convenience. |
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First of, I said "essential in reducing the chances", I didn't say "Eliminating the chances". If you go to the vet every year, you can catch diseases in their beginning instead of advanced stages. Second, all of those things you are saying that are not covered (in bold), are covered by my policy. (provided that they are not consequences of pre-existing conditions)
Third: I am pretty sure you DO take preventive matters to make sure these things don't happen again - I know for a fact you changed the kitties diet to prevent UTIs, and if I am correct, haven't had another case since - that IS preventive care. Allergies - I also know you worked to figure out what they were allergic to, and have cats on restricted diets - that IS preventive care. So yes, I stand by the notion that preventive care is very important on a cats life, just as it is on ours. And yes, it will save money on the long run. |
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Sorry, but IMO this person shouldn't have pets... So many time I have seen here at TCS people who hasn't thought about all the costs with pet ownership, and end up with litters and litters of kittens because they don't have the $$ to spay their kitties. Sometimes momma cat is suffering through a life threatening labor, and the owner, who had no $$$ to spay, now has no $$$ to take the kitty to the vet. IMO, like responsible breeding, there HAS to be responsible pet ownership. IMO, leaving an animal without care because of lack of $$$ is animal abuse. There are many many diseases that will cost $$$ and will not be a case for euthanasia - violent diarrhea for example... You kitty has it in the middle of the night, and is getting in a bad shape FAST. That alone can cost over $250... So what you do? Let your cat die because of something that trivial? Even euthanasia costs $$.You don't have $$ to pay... Do you just leave the kitty to suffer until it dies on its own? I am sorry, but IMO if you can not afford decent care, you should not have a pet. Having a pet is a privilege, not a right... |
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In all cases they would have called it prexisting thou only the utis were truly ... I do try to fix any fixable s, the PH is corrected time will tell about the actual infections .......
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In all cases they would have called it prexisting thou only the utis were truly ... I do try to fix any fixable s, the PH is corrected time will tell about the actual infections .......
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Regarding the unspayed cat, that is ignorance, nothing else.
I think the day you set income levels for pet ownership is the day pet euthanasia rates will skyrocket. Personally, I think they are high enough. No one has the right to tell someone they do not make enough money to have a pet IMO. |
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I have checked - UTIs are NOT considered pre-existing, and I can not see how ingesting a toy, or an anaphalactic shock would be either. You are assuming they would call pre-existing. I have used this insurance for an URI, a severe diarrhea, and an eye infection - this includes regular and emergency vets, and I had NO problem whatsoever getting paid for the everything, including medication.
So, I am not sure if you had experience with insurances, but it sounds to me you are assuming they would deny your claims. |
... and do to age and the fact all of my kids had seen a vet for some ailment they called it preexisting... NOTE MOST vets in my area do not take insurance or help with claims so you may have hit the jackpot of a decent carrier and willing vets