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post #91 of 98
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
It sure took the pressure off Biden, didn't it?

Well I suppose you're right now that I think of it- it isn't cops' fault that they are faced with social pressres by other officers to be ever more violent and rude..so yea it's why they are this way and expect everyone to defer to them. It isn't their fault they are just thrown into a different reality than most of us know and probably someone who isn't typically rude or ignorant by disposition would change if put into that situation.. I would probably think twice (I hope) before going off on a cop but I still can't help but despise how they treat people like criminals, even people who don't deserve it and are not criminals. My best friend is a cop right now since very recently. I have yet to find out if she will change...
I know among cops, it is vicious and the group ostrasizes any cop who doesn't act tough or violent enough. It is a sad thing.
post #92 of 98
Here's an interesting article about disorderly conduct:
Arrest of Gates also shines a light on 'disorderly conduct' laws
post #93 of 98
There was a whole page devoted to this incident in the Toronto Star on Saturday. The writer was a black reporter. It seems Gates may well have an anti-white attitude and has been "protesting" for some years now. I believe his attitude played the biggest part in this little drama and how he's getting the attention he seems to love and revel in.
post #94 of 98
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Originally Posted by ut0pia View Post
Yes but are we hearing the whole story, that was the whole point I was trying to make. Crowley could have approached in a friendly manner to make sure all is well, or his attitude could have been totally different- demeaning or rude...
We can't know simply from a police report.

Are we hearing the whole story? Well, you can say that about everything in life, not just the police.

I could say that about Barack Obama, has he been transparent about his past associates? You would say Yes, because you like Obama. I would say no, because of my personal bias. That is true of everything.

Life is a crap shoot, you just do the best you can.
post #95 of 98
IMO the real tragedy here is that Professor Gates, in his eagerness to view himself as being the victim of an imaginary racial profiling incident, is choosing to attempt to garner more publicity and personal glory for himself at the expense of GENUINE victims of GENUINE incidents of racial profiling.

By attempting to inject race into a clear-cut case of a simple break-in investigation (HE was observed breaking into the home with a bag, a clearly suspicious activity no matter the race, sex, or age of the person in question), he takes attention and credibility away from cases where people are targeted simply because of their race. Incidents like this tend to make the general public less inclined to believe race can be a factor in cases where it actually is. Surely the great Professor has read the story of the boy who cried 'wolf'?
post #96 of 98
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Originally Posted by tuxedokitties View Post
IMO the real tragedy here is that Professor Gates, in his eagerness to view himself as being the victim of an imaginary racial profiling incident, is choosing to attempt to garner more publicity and personal glory for himself at the expense of GENUINE victims of GENUINE incidents of racial profiling.

By attempting to inject race into a clear-cut case of a simple break-in investigation (HE was observed breaking into the home with a bag, a clearly suspicious activity no matter the race, sex, or age of the person in question), he takes attention and credibility away from cases where people are targeted simply because of their race. Incidents like this tend to make the general public less inclined to believe race can be a factor in cases where it actually is. Surely the great Professor has read the story of the boy who cried 'wolf'?
I totally agree. There are too many cases of it happening for real to be using Gates as the poster child. It only hurts the case of those working against this happening.
post #97 of 98
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Excellent post tuxedokitties!
post #98 of 98
I agree, that is an excellent point tuxedokitties and I will remember to post that at another forum where many think this is all the police's fault.
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