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post #1 of 16
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http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/...omplexion.html

I'm just completely floored by this.
post #2 of 16
Really! In this day and age!
At least there is some good news in the update:
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/...-New-Pool.html
post #3 of 16
It will never stop.
At least they have a place to swim now.
My Nephew is half black and he has been called some terrible names also.
post #4 of 16
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Originally Posted by 2dogmom View Post
Really! In this day and age!
At least there is some good news in the update:
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/...-New-Pool.html
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The banning has caused so much controversy that U.S. Senator Arlen Specter (D-Pa.) plans to launch an investigation into the discrimination claim.
"The allegations against the swim club as they are reported are extremely disturbing," Specter said in a statement. "I am reaching out to the parties involved to ascertain the facts. Racial discrimination has no place in America today."
I should hope so. I hope the ACLU and NAACP also raise a stink about this. Those poor kids. It's bad enough that they're growing up in such a blighted neighborhood - to have them barred from a swim club that they were really looking forward to having some fun at is unspeakable.
post #5 of 16
Wonder if they would refuse the Obama daughters?
post #6 of 16
Did anyone see this part:

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Club members, who were at the pool on the day of the incident, came forward Thursday to defend the organization.
"This has nothing to do with race," member Lori Slowinski said. "I paid my money for a private swim club…if they're gonna have it out to camps, then I want my money back."
Jim Flynn went right to the club president after the kids took the plunge into the pool.
"I was the first person to talk to the president, because the pool was overcrowded," said Flynn. "As members we have nothing to hide. There's good people here."
He believes the club's closure for fear of protests is wrong. "I do not condone the club being closed today and I will not condone it."
Members are angry the club, which is advertising open enrollment, inked deals with three camps to have campers come in and swim. They say members were not notified about allowing the camps to attend the club.
post #7 of 16
I also heard that they gave back the money to two other day camps, that did not have minority members. While saying the campers changed the 'complexion' of the pool was definetly a poor choice of words, it really could mean the difference between a private, quite pool and a public pool full of screaming kids. Not skin color. I don't know the people, don't know the situation, just looking at the other possible side to it.
post #8 of 16
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Originally Posted by mschauer View Post
Did anyone see this part:
Yes, I did see that part. But it does seem to be race motivated, at least that's what I'm getting from the articles. I mean who uses the term "change the complexion"???!

If it really was about the number of children coming from the camps each day, then they should have evaluated the capacity prior to opening up their facility to these camps. They could have saved face by perhaps saying that they can't accommodate 65 children in one day, but they can do it over a period of 2 or 3 days so that the pool isn't so overwhelmed at any one time. But they didn't do that.

Those poor kids. I'm glad they have a place to swim now, but what a horrid thing to go through. In this day and age people shouldn't be made to feel bad about their skin colour. It's just skin. We're all human beings.
post #9 of 16
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Originally Posted by Telynn View Post
I also heard that they gave back the money to two other day camps, that did not have minority members. While saying the campers changed the 'complexion' of the pool was definetly a poor choice of words, it really could mean the difference between a private, quite pool and a public pool full of screaming kids. Not skin color. I don't know the people, don't know the situation, just looking at the other possible side to it.
I am sorry, but there is no other side to the situation... There was the President of the club saying there was the concern in changing the complexion of the club, there were the pool attendants saying to the kids that minorities were not allowed in the pool, and asking them to leave, and the white kids getting off the pool when the black kids went in. So... what other side is there to be seen?
This is not only disgusting, but illegal - the first one to go should be the president of the club.
Poor kids!
post #10 of 16
Those poor kids - that is all I can say.
post #11 of 16
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Originally Posted by Telynn View Post
I also heard that they gave back the money to two other day camps, that did not have minority members. While saying the campers changed the 'complexion' of the pool was definetly a poor choice of words, it really could mean the difference between a private, quite pool and a public pool full of screaming kids. Not skin color. I don't know the people, don't know the situation, just looking at the other possible side to it.
Just a couple of notes:
It is very easy, and the expected step to be taken for damage control to cancel the membership afterwords of the other day camps.
Second note: "poor choice of words"? I don't think you would call it that if you were a black person and were told to not enter the club as you might change the complexion of the club.
As a latin person in the US, I have suffered discrimination a couple of times - 2x in 13 years... Luckily only those 2 times, but I tell you something: it is cruel, vile, unfair, and there is no way you can just dismiss it as "poor choices of words". Racism is IMO rightly so a crime.
post #12 of 16
It's racism. Typical of that area. The bank I used to work for has an office in that area. We couldn't have any other race but white work there. ugh!
post #13 of 16
Poor choice of words if he meant 'atmosphere' instead of 'complexion' as in color. Rich people pay more to have the private, quiet pool atmosphere. A group of day care or day camp kids would turn that into a public pool atmosphere. And the main reason I even attempt to say this is because for someone to actually say that (and really mean color), in this day and age, to a reporter no less, would be the height of stupidity. I just really have trouble believing that anyone could be that dumb. Not saying I don't believe that some people really think that, but to come out and say it?

Personally it sounds more like upper-class snobbery. As someone mentioned before Obama and his family would be very welcomed. As probably would any other black well-to-do family. If the kids were all white, I could see the words white trailer trash thrown around.

Believe me, I'm not defending the members of the pool. They acted very badly and caused some little kids to have hurt feelings. That isn't cool in my book. But I really doubt they had their kids leave the pool just because the color of the skin of the other kids. More like the income level of the other kids. Doesn't make it better though.

The owners of the pool were total idiots if they didn't see something like this coming. Take a group of rich snobs and without warning, throw in a bunch of inner city kids. (The pool scene from CaddyShack?)

But, as I said, I wasn't there. I don't know the people and didn't see or hear the situation. I've read stories that sound like everyone at the pool was yelling racial names and I've read other stories that doesn't make it sound that bad. In all the stories the pool members reacted badly. When I read differening stories I usually feel the truth is somewhere in the middle.
post #14 of 16
Thread Starter 
Update:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090713/...lub_minorities

I would tell them to stuff it!
post #15 of 16
Poor kids . I just dont understand people and how they can be so rude and hateful to anyone let alone kids. Whether or not people were upset about it being overcrowded and all, the word "complexion" and other things said by club members were inappropriate and rude.
post #16 of 16
very sad. As an adoptive mother of three. All of different elasticities , I see the way my oldest and darkest child is treated differently. I have seen the hurt and pain it causes. It blows my mind that people, can't get past the color of a persons skin.
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