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post #31 of 37
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Originally Posted by Natalie_ca View Post
I do my own laundry and change my own bed. The other girl who used to come from homecare would help me put the sheets on the bed, so I washed them the morning she was coming. I'm finding it difficult to make up my water bed these days because of my back. I have regular sheets and it's back breaking having to tuck 4 sides around the bladder.
I've had to make a water bed years ago before I had problems with my back. It's not the easiest thing to do and I couldn't imagine fighting with one now. (In fact, I have DH help me put the sheets on our bed because I have problems with them)
Maybe include that in the list for your next cleaner?
post #32 of 37
I've been in the cleaning business, and here's what I would recommend. First decide on what you are willing to pay. Keep in mind that if you are looking for a "legal" worker, you are going to have to pay more.

That legal person should (1) have their own transportation, (2) have insurance, (3) have their own tools and supplies. If you go the legal route, you will need to have their SS number, and you should withhold their deductions. Talk to your accountant about this if you are unsure. Expect to pay a minimum of $15/hr. Remember they have insurance, taxes, gasoline, car expense, supplies, etc. Ask to see their SS# and have them complete an I-9. If they have employees, you may not need to withhold taxes, but you should get a signed W-4 form, as your accountant will need to file a 1099 at the end of the year, unless they are a corporation.

If you hire an undocumented worker, you are essentially breaking the law. You might be able to get by cheaper, but you are contributing to the illegal immigrant problem that costs us all more in higher taxes. You should be willing to pay a minimum of $8/hr. They will not report their earnings, nor will they pay taxes on it. If they hurt themself in your house, your homeowners insurance will be liable. If you have no insurance, be prepared to foot the bill yourself.

Next, once you decide on the hours and the price, you need to make sure that the person puts in all the hours that you expect for the amount being paid. That means that you need to be there during the first time or two, so you can be sure that the person is working and not watching soaps. This will help you get a feel for how long it takes to clean your place thoroughly.

Hope this helps.
post #33 of 37
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Originally Posted by Dusty's Mom View Post
Next, once you decide on the hours and the price, you need to make sure that the person puts in all the hours that you expect for the amount being paid. That means that you need to be there during the first time or two, so you can be sure that the person is working and not watching soaps. This will help you get a feel for how long it takes to clean your place thoroughly.

Hope this helps.
I am paying her $15.00 per hour.

I also guaranty her a minimum of $45.00 for her time here.

So that means if she finishes the list in less than 3 hours, she still gets paid for 3 hours work. If she takes 4 hours to finish, then I pay her an additional $15.00 for a total of $60.00 for that day.

However, she's usually finished in about 60 to 90 minutes. But she's also not completing the tasks that we had discussed, and she is leaving some things 1/2 undone as shown in my earlier list of things she is to be doing and the things she hasn't been doing.

She seems to have come to expect that her time here will be 90 minutes or less and anything I ask her to do that she is supposed to be doing seems to encroach on her self imposed allotted 90 minutes of time here. Even if I'm paying her a minimum of 3 hours to complete the work properly.
post #34 of 37
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Originally Posted by Natalie_ca View Post
This is that same person!!!
That's why I said "former".

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Originally Posted by Natalie_ca View Post
When I was off work I had homecare help come and do cleaning 2 times per month. It's a service for those who are ill and require help. It's a government funded service that we pay for with our taxes.

The first girl, well woman came for almost a year before I had to call and ask to have someone else come. I found her insulting, very negative, and a constant complainer.
http://www.thecatsite.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=147339

http://www.thecatsite.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=148978

http://www.thecatsite.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=150557

Ironically, the girl that I did hire was a no show for months and out of the blue a couple months ago contacted me and told me that her hours at her job had been changed and that's why she didn't come. So I was in a pinch and needed someone, so I contacted that first girl from homecare, the one who drove me batty to see if she was interested.

I had hoped the difference between her being here back then vs now would be that when she was coming here as a homecare employee with the government, I had to be here with her and I felt completely and utterly trapped. As a private client where I'm paying her myself away from the agency, I don't have to be here when she is. However, the day she picked to come is a day that I'm mostly always home in the afternoon!

The girl that I had hired initially was the second girl that homecare sent me. She was a dream when it came to cleaning! She was fast, efficient and very thorough. Plus she was so nice. I actually looked forward to the days she came to clean because she was good company and fun to talk to. However, she was also not very reliable and would often miss 2 or 3 visits. Because it was through homecare, they did send someone in her place. But if she was employed by me and she missed the days, I would have to find someone else on my own or try and do the cleaning myself.

Technically because I still have physical health issues that affect my ability to do certain things around the house, I still qualify for homecare help. But I know the services are taxed and so many people have to wait for help, and since I'm in a financial position to pay for the help that I need, I have opted to hire someone and pay them privately.

So anyway, I only had problems with one homecare worker, and ironically she is the one who I hired....temporarily, which seems to have become permanent since Janet wasn't able to start.
So the individual(s) mentioned above are all the same person? My mistake in thinking they were 2 separate individuals thus why I thought you had had previous problems with several cleaning ladies. My apologies.

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Originally Posted by Dusty's Mom View Post
If you hire an undocumented worker, you are essentially breaking the law. You might be able to get by cheaper, but you are contributing to the illegal immigrant problem that costs us all more in higher taxes. You should be willing to pay a minimum of $8/hr. They will not report their earnings, nor will they pay taxes on it. If they hurt themself in your house, your homeowners insurance will be liable. If you have no insurance, be prepared to foot the bill yourself.
Hope this helps.
We are in Canada so don't have quite the same issues with illegal immigrants being hired. Most folks who do cleaning work in private homes have to be bonded. My friend works for herself but still had to register her business and be bonded.
post #35 of 37
Ive been in the cleaning biz for 23 years. I make 500.00 a week for 15 hours of that work. For those of you complaining just remember you get what you pay for
post #36 of 37
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Originally Posted by cheylink View Post
The faster they finish cleaning your home, the less they are actually cleaning.
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Originally Posted by Yosemite View Post
Nobody is going to clean like we would do it ourselves.
No disrespect to any cleaners out there because i have a couple of friends who love their cleaners, but no one would clean my house the way i do it, plus i don't like the idea of anyone cleaning my house.

Linda, i know you were wanting to save some money, so could you not do your own housework by splitting it over a couple of days so it's not too much?. Say dusting one day, then vacuuming and washing the bathroom and floors the day after?.
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Originally Posted by Natalie_ca View Post
I'm finding it difficult to make up my water bed these days because of my back. I have regular sheets and it's back breaking having to tuck 4 sides around the bladder.
How do you manage with patients?
post #37 of 37
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[quote=Rosiemac;2664707]Linda, i know you were wanting to save some money, so could you not do your own housework by splitting it over a couple of days so it's not too much?. Say dusting one day, then vacuuming and washing the bathroom and floors the day after?.[quote]

No, I wish I could. A day of work saps nearly every ounce of energy that I have. After work if I can put together my lunch or dinner for the next day, or make dinner or do a load of laundry I'm lucky. So far as doing it before work, not an option because then I wouldn't have the energy and stamina to make it through my work shift.

Unfortunately the bulk of house cleaning taxes me too much for me to do, and having your home in a perpetual state of being cleaned, is an awful thing. Dishes, dusting and laundry I can usually do, depending on the number of days off I have, but heavier cleaning is just to much for me.

I returned to work before I was physically ready, and the car accident didn't help matters. However I had no choice. Either return to work or lose my license due to lack of nursing hours. I worked too hard to get that license in order to lose it.

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How do you manage with patients?
It's very difficult, but I'm too young to retire. I don't have the financial means to retire, and I don't have the option of having a second income so that I can reduce my hours, so I have had to learn what my limits are both at work and at home, in order to allow me to function. Plus I take pain medication, both over the counter (for when I work) and prescription (when at home).

I think I'm managing fairly well, especially when I have someone coming to clean twice a month for me.

Paying someone to come and clean for me is not a luxury: it's a need that I'll more than likely have for the rest of my life unless my physical health improves, which according to my doctors is not likely to get much better than what it is now.
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