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Obama closes door on Openess

post #1 of 10
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So much for that transparency Barack kepts harping about during the campaign.

Campaign promises:

1. No lobbyists in "my" administration
2. All bills to be posted on line for 5 day so the public can peruse.
3. Public list of visitors to the White House, no secret visitors like Bush.
4. No new taxes

http://www.newsweek.com/id/202875

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As a senator, Barack Obama denounced the Bush administration for holding "secret energy meetings" with oil executives at the White House. But last week public-interest groups were dismayed when his own administration rejected a Freedom of Information Act request for Secret Service logs showing the identities of coal executives who had visited the White House to discuss Obama's "clean coal" policies. One reason: the disclosure of such records might impinge on privileged "presidential communications." The refusal, approved by White House counsel Greg Craig's office, is the latest in a series of cases in which Obama officials have opted against public disclosure. Since Obama pledged on his first day in office to usher in a "new era" of openness, "nothing has changed," says David -Sobel, a lawyer who litigates FOIA cases. "For a president who said he was going to bring unprecedented transparency to government, you would certainly expect more than the recycling of old Bush secrecy policies."
Don't you just love this man that is so honest and keeps his word so well?
post #2 of 10
All I can say is (1) he never got my vote and (2) people screamed for "change" - they got it all right - just not the way they thought it would be!

Of course, no one wanted to listen to me about the warnings of Obama in office. Now we ALL have to suffer for it.
post #3 of 10
What's funny, too, is that this is reported by Newsweek who has had Obama on their cover 19 times so far. That has gotten attention from those watching the media's love affair with Obama.

It does make me wonder, though, how many of those promises were made because he really had no clue about what being President was all about. Because he's not real good at actually keeping those promises!
post #4 of 10
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Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45 View Post
All I can say is (1) he never got my vote and (2) people screamed for "change" - they got it all right - just not the way they thought it would be!

Of course, no one wanted to listen to me about the warnings of Obama in office. Now we ALL have to suffer for it.
Change doesn't always mean for the better, as is the case now
post #5 of 10
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Originally Posted by valanhb View Post
What's funny, too, is that this is reported by Newsweek who has had Obama on their cover 19 times so far. That has gotten attention from those watching the media's love affair with Obama.

It does make me wonder, though, how many of those promises were made because he really had no clue about what being President was all about. Because he's not real good at actually keeping those promises!
I have to wonder how many broken promises it will take before public opinion turns against him.
post #6 of 10
I think the point valanhb made is the most important one. Running for President and running the country are two very different jobs, and I suspect Obama has had a lot of rude awakenings in his 5 months in office.
post #7 of 10
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Originally Posted by mrblanche View Post
I think the point valanhb made is the most important one. Running for President and running the country are two very different jobs, and I suspect Obama has had a lot of rude awakenings in his 5 months in office.
I think he found that there were a lot of reasons behind the things Bush did that weren't just being mean and nasty and all those horrible things that the Democrats said about him. There are things that the President knows that even Congress doesn't get to or need to know, and that the public really has no business knowing. It's all fine and good to talk about "transparency" but there are parts of government that don't have transparency for good reason.

Unfortunately for Obama, he opened his big mouth before he knew what he was talking about. Look at Gitmo for example. The majority of American people oppose closing it now...now that they have any idea of who is still being held there and the issues with closing it. The ones who could be released have already been released (none of that was covered by the media when Bush was in office). What's left are the worst of the worst. Apparently Obama thought they were all just out there innocently tending their poppy fields when the Bush Baddies captured them...until he saw why they were really there. But by then, he had already reaffirmed that it would be closed as one of his first decrees as President.

No one wants the prisoners- no country wants to take them unless they will just release them (Yemen) or kill them (Saudi Arabia). Neither of those options are acceptable. EU countries won't take them, contrary to what Obama thought. There's international legal ramifications to all of this as well. And it's going to cost untold amounts of money to close it. It's a mess, and I have to think it's because he didn't have the intelligence on who was there or the analysis of what it would take to close it.
post #8 of 10
And this is the TIP of the iceberg of what we are seeing right now.
post #9 of 10
Politicians speak off the top of their head without knowing if what they say is even possible. They do it to get the popularity vote with the people.

He could very well have meant what he said, at the time. However, once he was in a position to fulfill his promise, he probably realized that talk is one thing, but putting it into effect is another matter.

A complete unrestricted public list of visitors to the White House could lead to problems and disclosure of information that is considered of "top secret" nature.

By being so open and allowing such a list to be published gives a country's enemies way too much information to speculate.

A government can't be 100% open about everything that they do, discuss, who visits etc. It's just not practical.
post #10 of 10
That is very true - you cannot do that and IMO he really had NO business even suggesting he would do it if elected. That was stupid on his part. But it makes you wonder - how many OTHER lies will he be telling.
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