Sudden feces elimination on dining room floor, HELP!

Originally Posted by NorthernGlow

OT, but we absolutely must see pics of your kitty!!

(I have a HUGE crush on British Longhairs, the prettiest cats in the world!

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I will work on it!

Originally Posted by BritishLongHair

The vet said not to change because cats like pine, and we use feline pine litter. If adding a downstairs box does not work then maybe we would switch litter.

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Is it the pellet type of Feline Pine? I had to switch from it to a scoopable litter because Jeta stop pooping in it. She would still urinate in it but she would poop right next to the box.

BTW - Any time someone tells you "Cats like <something>", don't listen to them. It's impossible to make generalizations about what cats like and don't like. Cats are die hard nonconformists.

Originally Posted by mschauer

Is it the pellet type of Feline Pine? I had to switch from it to a scoopable litter because Jeta stop pooping in it. She would still urinate in it but she would poop right next to the box.

BTW - Any time someone tells you "Cats like <something>", don't listen to them. It's impossible to make generalizations about what cats like and don't like. Cats are die hard nonconformists.

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Yes..its the pellet kind

We used to have pellets too. Then one of the cats decided that he doesn't like it anymore and started peeing on the couch. I bought another kind of litter and he was fine again. He is very strict with his toilet manors: if the litter box has moved few inches he'll pee on the couch, if the box is wrong color he'll pee on the couch, if the box is in a wrong angle he'll pee on the couch etc.. His blood and urine samples were checked but there's nothing wrong with him.

Well we got another litter box (same as the one upstairs) and put it were she has been "pooping". The only change we made was the litter. We are trying Tidy Cat clay litter with crystals.
We put her in the box and scratched the litter with her front paws. So far, she is just hopping out quickly and has not checked it out at all. It has only been set up for about one hour so far, so we will see.......

On other thing that I forgot to mention was that Angel's feces have be kind of dry and hard. Also, smaller than usual. I am wondering if she is a bit constipated. The only thing different we have done recently is be giving her a Lycene gel mixed into her wet food treat once a day. The Lycene was suggested by the vet because Angel has reoccuring conjuctivitis (runny goopy eyes).

Originally Posted by BritishLongHair

On other thing that I forgot to mention was that Angel's feces have be kind of dry and hard. Also, smaller than usual. I am wondering if she is a bit constipated. The only thing different we have done recently is be giving her a Lycene gel mixed into her wet food treat once a day. The Lycene was suggested by the vet because Angel has reoccuring conjuctivitis (runny goopy eyes).

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Well, with the new litter box being in the dining room you'll be able to see if she strains while using it.

I hope the new litter works. Let us know.

She did it!!! While we were out of the house, Angel "peed" and "pooped" in the new box!!
Now, since we have it in the dining room right now (where she was going on the floor), at what point could we move it to it permenant location? The location that we want to keep the new box will be around the corner from the dining room. I am just not sure when I should move it.
Also, she obviously had no problem with the new litter, but the original box upstairs still has the feline pine pellets in it. When confined to the upstairs she was still eliminating in it, so should we leave that one with the Feline Pine? Or switch over to the new? Or even try the Feline Pine in the new box? Maybe the second box did the trick and not necessarily the new litter?

Thanks

Way to go Angel!! I'm so glad you gave the second box a try!!

If you need to move it, do it s-l-o-w-l-y. It may be better to wait a couple of days before you begin,tho. Just move it foot or so at a time over a period of time.

As for upstairs, you could always get another litter box and fill it with the new litter and sit it close to the box with the pine litter, and see which she prefers? Of course, she may have just needed her second box downstairs!

I suppose you'll just have to sit back and wait for her to show you how she wants it!! And she will! Just like she did this time!!

Originally Posted by BritishLongHair

Maybe the second box did the trick and not necessarily the new litter?

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That's what you have to determine.

If it were me, I would go back to one box but with the new litter. If that doesn't work go back to the second box and what litter you use doesn't matter. I suspect it is the litter and not the number of boxs but you'll just have to experiment to find out for sure.

UPDATE....we moved Angel's food and water to the kitchen. The new litterbox is now in its final resting spot in a corner of a closet (no doors) in a spare room on the first floor. Still using the Tidy Cat clay litter as well. Also, we changed the upstairs litterbox from the Feline Pine pellets to the Tidy Cat. It appears that she is ignoring the upstairs litterbox all together and exclusively using the new litterbox downstairs.
It seems as though having this litterbox downstarirs with the new litter has done the trick! Although, I am not sure exactly why she has chosen to abandon the box upstairs now. I am thinking that if this continues, we will take the upstairs box away.
Anyone think that would be okay?

Our cat is definitely spoiled, but we have a box on each floor. She sleeps on our bed at night, and we keep the box in the master bath off our bedroom. In our bedroom we also have a tray with cold water and dry food. This keeps her from waking us up at 3 am! She uses the downstairs box at night and when she is up there during the day, and the rest of the time she uses the downstairs box.

She will occasionally poop in a downstairs office. I put a bunch of throw rugs down so at least she isn't soiling the carpet. I don't know why she does this.

But to answer your question, I would leave both boxes in place.

Originally Posted by BritishLongHair

UPDATE....we moved Angel's food and water to the kitchen. The new litterbox is now in its final resting spot in a corner of a closet (no doors) in a spare room on the first floor. Still using the Tidy Cat clay litter as well. Also, we changed the upstairs litterbox from the Feline Pine pellets to the Tidy Cat. It appears that she is ignoring the upstairs litterbox all together and exclusively using the new litterbox downstairs.
It seems as though having this litterbox downstarirs with the new litter has done the trick! Although, I am not sure exactly why she has chosen to abandon the box upstairs now. I am thinking that if this continues, we will take the upstairs box away.
Anyone think that would be okay?

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Does she spend much time upstairs? Maybe the downstairs one is more convenient? If she *never* uses it there doesn't seem much reason to keep it but for the time being maybe it would be safer to keep it.

Originally Posted by mschauer

Does she spend much time upstairs? Maybe the downstairs one is more convenient? If she *never* uses it there doesn't seem much reason to keep it but for the time being maybe it would be safer to keep it.

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About 70% of the time she is downstairs

"Knock on wood" Angel only uses the downstairs litterbox. She has not touched the upstairs one at all. We will leave it for a few more weeks and if she still has not touched it we will take it away. We will never know for sure why she changed her mind, we are just happy she likes the new litter and box. Thanks for all your help!!!!!

Well...I thought I would update. Angel went almost 3 months without eliminating in the dining room. All of a sudden, she is back at it again!! We still have the two litter boxes in the same place and have not changed a thing. I am so confused! She will still use her litter boxes too One day she will go on the dining room rug, the next in the litter box. This is so frustrating! We continue to use Natures Way in hopes to get rid of the odor, but she is obviously still picking up the odors there. Fortunately she does not urinate on the rug My wife tells me that once a cat goes on the rug in a certain spot in the house, they almost always continue to go there at times.

What to do next???

I am not sure what the Nature's Way is but is it an enzyme cleaner? If not then she will continue to go back to the same spot. Because she can smell the urine. I highly recommend one of these odour removers

http://www.justrite.com/

http://www.nokout.com/

Have you tried the Dr. Elsey's Cat Attract cat litter?

You mentioned your upstairs litter box is about 4 years old?
Ideally, you should replace them at least once a year as after time they become scratched up to the point of being unsanitary, even when thoroughly cleaned.

It is very possible that she was trying to tell you this as well.

Originally Posted by Denali

I am not sure what the Nature's Way is but is it an enzyme cleaner? If not then she will continue to go back to the same spot. Because she can smell the urine. I highly recommend one of these odour removers

http://www.justrite.com/

http://www.nokout.com/

Have you tried the Dr. Elsey's Cat Attract cat litter?

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She has never urinated on the rug, only in the litter box. I have not yet tried the Elseys litter.

Originally Posted by Arlyn

You mentioned your upstairs litter box is about 4 years old?
Ideally, you should replace them at least once a year as after time they become scratched up to the point of being unsanitary, even when thoroughly cleaned.

It is very possible that she was trying to tell you this as well.

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The box upstairs is about 3 years old. She uses the box downstairs more often (only a few months old), but will still use the upstairs box at times.
We always keep the boxes clean.
Is it possible that the reason she wants to go on the floor near the same spot because she can still smell it even after using the enzyme cleaner?