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Sudden feces elimination on dining room floor, HELP!

post #1 of 85
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Greetings,

We have a British Longhair female cat (Angel) that is almost 4 years old. About two weeks ago, she had a loose stool episode on the carpeted dining room floor. The very next day, she had another episode again on the dining room floor near the first one. The second time it was the healthy tootsie roll kind which is her normal. Then it was a third the next day.
We took her to the vet and her stool sample was clear. They told us since her litter box is upstairs to keep her confined to the second floor for a few days hoping she goes back in the litter box. Well, she did fine for a few days and used her box everytime
Yesturday we let her have roam of the house again, and wouldn't you know it, another elimination in the dining room!!
At this point she is NOT urinating on the floor and using her litter box for that. We have sprayed the area where she has "pooped" with the enzyme cleaner like we are supposed to.
Her diet has not changed and there have been no new changes in the household. No new cat litter as well (we use pure pine pellets)
One thing of note. Angel hurt her paw while playing (about 2 months ago) and has developed a bit of a limp. The vet has taken x-rays and feels that it is just inflamation. He also said the area needs to be watched so that it does not grow (hopefully not a tumor or anything) The vet gave her a shot of anti-inflamation medication which only helped for about a week. He said the shot is only a one time thing because cats don't handle this type of medicine very well. He has suggested a 1/4 of baby aspirn 3 times a week for two weeks which we are doing, however, it does not seem to help her any.
We are beginning to worry a bit about her health even though the vet said she appears to be in good health.
We have noticed that she is pretty much her normal self, but has been sleeping a bit more lately.
ANy input or suggestions would be a great help!

Thanks!
post #2 of 85
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Originally Posted by BritishLongHair View Post
Greetings,

We have a British Longhair female cat (Angel) that is almost 4 years old. About two weeks ago, she had a loose stool episode on the carpeted dining room floor. The very next day, she had another episode again on the dining room floor near the first one. The second time it was the healthy tootsie roll kind which is her normal. Then it was a third the next day.


They told us since her litter box is upstairs to keep her confined to the second floor for a few days hoping she goes back in the litter box. Angel hurt her paw while playing (about 2 months ago) and has developed a bit of a limp. The vet has taken x-rays and feels that it is just inflamation.


We have noticed that she is pretty much her normal self, but has been sleeping a bit more lately.
ANy input or suggestions would be a great help!

Thanks!
(* edited your post, as this may explain my answer*)

Do you have her a litterbox downstairs, just in case her paw is bothering her and she can't get upstairs quick enough?

Welcome to TCS, by the way!
post #3 of 85
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(* edited your post, as this may explain my answer*)

Do you have her a litterbox downstairs, just in case her paw is bothering her and she can't get upstairs quick enough?

Welcome to TCS, by the way!

Thanks! No we do not have a box downstairs yet. She is still able to run up and down the stairs very well. I am sure it hurts her a bit, but sometimes she will run down the stairs like a maniac, LOL! She loves to play ball like a dog. I swear she is part dog
post #4 of 85
Is Angel the only animal in the house? Is she the only cat? Why I ask is if you have more then one cat is sometimes you require more than one litterbox. Some cats like to poop in one box and pee in another box. Is the litterbox upstairs located in a secluded, quiet area? Cats like their privacy and peace when going to the washroom. The cats food is not located near the box is it? Cats also do not like to do their business near their food. Also, if you have another pet - they could be hijacking her from using the litterbox? I have heard of this scenario many times.

I would recommend getting another litterbox and place it where she is pooping. And see if this helps. If this doesn't work then you may have to try a different litter because it could be irritating her behind when she poops. Also, you could try placing newspaper or puppy training pads in the litter box. This would be much softer on her behind.

Did the vet check her for enlarged anal glands or constipation (blockage). These are some reasons why kitties poop outside the litterbox as well.

Lets hope it is just a very short term thing and everything will go back to normal when her paw heals
post #5 of 85
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She is the only animal. Yes her food is in the same area as the litterbox, up till now that was not a problem. She does have privacy. There is not much room downstairs for another litterbox. Do you feel having one downstairs anywhere would help or does it need to be in the room where she is pooping. I really did not want a litterbox in the living room, but it's better then having it on my carpet!!!
post #6 of 85
I would almost guarantee it would help. Just try a temporary one, maybe a disposable, and make sure she sees where it is. Try placing a "poop" from the litterbox upstairs in it until she investigates, since she will recognize it as hers. I wouldn't think it would need to be in the exact same spot, just the general area, to begin with. But if it doesn't, then you should really consider a vet visit.
post #7 of 85
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I would almost guarantee it would help. Just try a temporary one, maybe a disposable, and make sure she sees where it is. Try placing a "poop" from the litterbox upstairs in it until she investigates, since she will recognize it as hers. I wouldn't think it would need to be in the exact same spot, just the general area, to begin with. But if it doesn't, then you should really consider a vet visit.
What would be the next step for the vet? Blood testing?
post #8 of 85
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What would be the next step for the vet? Blood testing?
Did you bring them a stool sample?
post #9 of 85
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Did you bring them a stool sample?
Yes I did (indicated in my first post ) It was negative. Up until recently, she has NEVER had any elimination accidents since they day we brought her home from the breeder. Thanks
post #10 of 85
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Yes I did (indicated in my first post ) It was negative. Up until recently, she has NEVER had any elimination accidents since they day we brought her home from the breeder. Thanks
Sorry I missed that part and read twice before posting. LoL
Did you try another box? Is the original box old or new?
post #11 of 85
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Sorry I missed that part and read twice before posting. LoL
Did you try another box? Is the original box old or new?
It is the original box, so about 4 yrs old. She will still use that box for urinating all the time, and "pooping" only if she is confined to the upstairs. DO you still think a new box downstairs will help? While I really appreciate the suggestion, I just am trying to understand why for the last 4 yrs one box was fine. Now all of the sudden it may not be.
post #12 of 85
Have you tried a different type of litter?
post #13 of 85
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Have you tried a different type of litter?
No....I did not think about that because she will still use the box.
post #14 of 85
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The vet said not to change because cats like pine, and we use feline pine litter. If adding a downstairs box does not work then maybe we would switch litter.
post #15 of 85
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What would be the next step for the vet? Blood testing?
Get her urine sample tested. Some cats poop outside the litterbox when having UTI. It can even be the only symptom showing and it doesn't have to happen often.

OT, but we absolutely must see pics of your kitty!!
(I have a HUGE crush on British Longhairs, the prettiest cats in the world! )
post #16 of 85
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I just am trying to understand why for the last 4 yrs one box was fine. Now all of the sudden it may not be.
Cats are no different from humans. They too may one day decide they do not like something a certain way anymore or decide they don't like the litter they are using, etc. It could be she has decided she doesn't like pooping and peeing in the same box. That's why I suggested you get another litterbox downstairs (in a closet or near where she is pooping). It could be that she doesn't like the feel of the litter on her behind when she passes a stool (that's why I suggested putting puppy training pads or newspaper in the litterbox). Or you could put newspaper or the pads where she is pooping and hope she lands on them? I know you said that there was no problem with the litter box being close to the food but I would definately move the food and water bowl into the kitchen and away from the litterbox. I know I wouldn't want to have to urinate/poop near my food? To me it doesn't seem very hygenic. We as caretakers of our cats have to step back and try to understand why our furkids are behaving the way they are. We have to remember that they can not speak for themselves and have patience with them. Most cats are crying out for help and not being spiteful. I am happy that you are looking for advice on how to fix your kitties problem.

It could be because she is sick and is trying to tell you she is sick (cats really do not have any other way to tell us).The next thing that the vet should look for are enlarged anal glands or a blockage/impacted stool (constipation).
post #17 of 85
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The vet said not to change because cats like pine, and we use feline pine litter.
Really - my cats DO NOT like pine litter. Could you try leaving that in one box and in the new box put a softer litter?

If one thing I have learned from owning cats is that not all cats are the same. Just like all kids are not the same. They all have their own personalities, wants, needs, likes and dislikes.
post #18 of 85
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Thanks for all the suggestions, please keep them coming! What litter do you all recommend? I am thinking that we will try another box with a new litter. Maybe also move her food and water as well
post #19 of 85
Do you have a lid on the litterbox?
post #20 of 85
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Do you have a lid on the litterbox?
No lid, she never seemed to like it.
Also, please recommend a litterbox too

Thanks
post #21 of 85
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OT, but we absolutely must see pics of your kitty!!
(I have a HUGE crush on British Longhairs, the prettiest cats in the world! )
I will work on it!
post #22 of 85
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The vet said not to change because cats like pine, and we use feline pine litter. If adding a downstairs box does not work then maybe we would switch litter.
Is it the pellet type of Feline Pine? I had to switch from it to a scoopable litter because Jeta stop pooping in it. She would still urinate in it but she would poop right next to the box.

BTW - Any time someone tells you "Cats like <something>", don't listen to them. It's impossible to make generalizations about what cats like and don't like. Cats are die hard nonconformists.
post #23 of 85
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Is it the pellet type of Feline Pine? I had to switch from it to a scoopable litter because Jeta stop pooping in it. She would still urinate in it but she would poop right next to the box.

BTW - Any time someone tells you "Cats like <something>", don't listen to them. It's impossible to make generalizations about what cats like and don't like. Cats are die hard nonconformists.

Yes..its the pellet kind
post #24 of 85
We used to have pellets too. Then one of the cats decided that he doesn't like it anymore and started peeing on the couch. I bought another kind of litter and he was fine again. He is very strict with his toilet manors: if the litter box has moved few inches he'll pee on the couch, if the box is wrong color he'll pee on the couch, if the box is in a wrong angle he'll pee on the couch etc.. His blood and urine samples were checked but there's nothing wrong with him.
post #25 of 85
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Well we got another litter box (same as the one upstairs) and put it were she has been "pooping". The only change we made was the litter. We are trying Tidy Cat clay litter with crystals.
We put her in the box and scratched the litter with her front paws. So far, she is just hopping out quickly and has not checked it out at all. It has only been set up for about one hour so far, so we will see.......
post #26 of 85
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On other thing that I forgot to mention was that Angel's feces have be kind of dry and hard. Also, smaller than usual. I am wondering if she is a bit constipated. The only thing different we have done recently is be giving her a Lycene gel mixed into her wet food treat once a day. The Lycene was suggested by the vet because Angel has reoccuring conjuctivitis (runny goopy eyes).
post #27 of 85
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Originally Posted by BritishLongHair View Post
On other thing that I forgot to mention was that Angel's feces have be kind of dry and hard. Also, smaller than usual. I am wondering if she is a bit constipated. The only thing different we have done recently is be giving her a Lycene gel mixed into her wet food treat once a day. The Lycene was suggested by the vet because Angel has reoccuring conjuctivitis (runny goopy eyes).
Well, with the new litter box being in the dining room you'll be able to see if she strains while using it.

I hope the new litter works. Let us know.
post #28 of 85
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She did it!!! While we were out of the house, Angel "peed" and "pooped" in the new box!!
Now, since we have it in the dining room right now (where she was going on the floor), at what point could we move it to it permenant location? The location that we want to keep the new box will be around the corner from the dining room. I am just not sure when I should move it.
Also, she obviously had no problem with the new litter, but the original box upstairs still has the feline pine pellets in it. When confined to the upstairs she was still eliminating in it, so should we leave that one with the Feline Pine? Or switch over to the new? Or even try the Feline Pine in the new box? Maybe the second box did the trick and not necessarily the new litter?

Thanks
post #29 of 85
Way to go Angel!! I'm so glad you gave the second box a try!!

If you need to move it, do it s-l-o-w-l-y. It may be better to wait a couple of days before you begin,tho. Just move it foot or so at a time over a period of time.

As for upstairs, you could always get another litter box and fill it with the new litter and sit it close to the box with the pine litter, and see which she prefers? Of course, she may have just needed her second box downstairs!

I suppose you'll just have to sit back and wait for her to show you how she wants it!! And she will! Just like she did this time!!
post #30 of 85
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Maybe the second box did the trick and not necessarily the new litter?
That's what you have to determine.

If it were me, I would go back to one box but with the new litter. If that doesn't work go back to the second box and what litter you use doesn't matter. I suspect it is the litter and not the number of boxs but you'll just have to experiment to find out for sure.
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