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Originally Posted by lil maggie View Post
Shows to go ya that most meds work different for everyone. I have taken Wellbutrin and it worked great. I quit smoking for 9 months but I had to quit taking the meds because I found it hard to work with figures. The drugs made me a happy camper but to the point I didn't care and forget things. I was almost starting to frolic in the yard catching unseen butterflies without a net I don't like feeling like that and decided not to take anything to help quit. I don't know much about Champix, I wait for Chris to post daily comments about it so I learn more
Rooting for ya!!

Thanks for my laugh of the day! Frolicking in the yard!

If you think drugs affect your memory, wait until menopause. I have a larger than average vocabulary but I get totally stumped over the most simple words. I end up looking like a deer in the headlights of a PeterBilt while I try desperately to remember what the word is I'm trying to remember.
post #32 of 56
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Originally Posted by Yosemite View Post
If you think drugs affect your memory, wait until menopause. I have a larger than average vocabulary but I get totally stumped over the most simple words. I end up looking like a deer in the headlights of a PeterBilt while I try desperately to remember what the word is I'm trying to remember.
And thank you for giving me something to look forward to My anxiety meds already give me short term memory issues LOL.

Anyways...
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Day 4: (for the record, this is mainly for me, and so I can submit the info to the drug company, my pharmacy and my dr. as there's been no studies done on people with existing psychiatric issues)

I ended up taking the 2nd pill at 6:45 ( 11hr after the first one). That was a mistake.
By 7:50 I was in a full blown panic attack. It eased in a normal amount of time. I was going to head to bed, but ended up playing with kitties and went to bed feeling fine at 11...took my pain meds, and sleeping aids.

Here's the part I really don't like:

I woke up at 4:45am or so, because..(WARNING: Too much info for some) I felt like I had lost control of my bladder. While I did not lose complete control, I lost enough to have to change my underwear I felt completely fine aside from that issue.

I ended up staying up till 6, took my morning pills then and went back to bed till 9. Am up now, feel fine, and I took my morning pill at 6.... I have a bit of a headache, but not something I would blame on the meds.

So aside from the issues after I took the 2nd pill, yesterday was a good day.

Now, the incontinence issue has me concerned....but we'll see if it happens again. Truth be told, I have had two children, one of which was 11lbs (normal delivery with forceps)....I'm now in my early 30's and my bladder control is not great to begin with...(ex. the heavy coughing issue....you know what I mean). I did have one accident in my mid-late 20's at nighttime, but I believe it was due to the amount of meds I was on, the types, and they caused me to sleep thru the urge.

I also note that one other person said their husband had issues like this as well. It is definately needing to be reported to the drug company, which I will be filling out the form later today (for myself obviously).

Another concern, and maybe the folks that have been on it can say....Today is my day 5. Day 1-3 I felt less urge to smoke.... Yesterday and even now, I'm feeling stronger urges to smoke. Did that happen to anyone else?

I'm ordering the book by Alen Carr today, so hopefully it will be here by Monday and will help along with the meds.
post #33 of 56
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Originally Posted by Yosemite View Post
Thanks for my laugh of the day! Frolicking in the yard!

If you think drugs affect your memory, wait until menopause. I have a larger than average vocabulary but I get totally stumped over the most simple words. I end up looking like a deer in the headlights of a PeterBilt while I try desperately to remember what the word is I'm trying to remember.
Too late! My menopause days are well behind me. That's why I didn't opt for drugs to stop smoking this time because I'm always having a brain fart and don't need help

Sorry just a bit off topic

Chris I don't understand being on the drug for 5 days and the smoking urges are stronger. I wonder if your body is starting to tolerate it. When do you start taking a bigger dose?
post #34 of 56
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Originally Posted by lil maggie View Post

Chris I don't understand being on the drug for 5 days and the smoking urges are stronger. I wonder if your body is starting to tolerate it. When do you start taking a bigger dose?
I don't know.... I wouldn't say they are stronger, just not like the first 1-3 days....BUT, that could be due to other factors...The one day I was nauseous all day, so of course didn't want to smoke.....

Day 4 was my increase, and I have another increase on Sunday.

Day 5:

2 pills today....

no probs during the day, aside from the incident I mentioned previously. I took my second pill later today, at about 9...an hour later I did have some increase in anxiety but not dramatically and not a panic attack.

The nausea is gone
I have not had weird dreams that I know of.
Still a dry mouth, and I do drink alot of water.
Increased appetite/cravings for different foods. (my weight loss has not gone well these past few days)
Sleep issues: I woke up at 3:30am this morning but then I have sleep issues anyways.

Tis my conclusion so far that, with each increase I will possibly have a panic attack. I had 2 the day I started, and 1 with the first increase.....I have one more increase, then that is the dose I will be on for the rest of the 12wks.
post #35 of 56
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Originally Posted by Snake_Lady View Post
I don't know.... I wouldn't say they are stronger, just not like the first 1-3 days....BUT, that could be due to other factors...The one day I was nauseous all day, so of course didn't want to smoke.....

Day 4 was my increase, and I have another increase on Sunday.

Day 5:

2 pills today....

no probs during the day, aside from the incident I mentioned previously. I took my second pill later today, at about 9...an hour later I did have some increase in anxiety but not dramatically and not a panic attack.

The nausea is gone
I have not had weird dreams that I know of.
Still a dry mouth, and I do drink alot of water.
Increased appetite/cravings for different foods. (my weight loss has not gone well these past few days)
Sleep issues: I woke up at 3:30am this morning but then I have sleep issues anyways.

Tis my conclusion so far that, with each increase I will possibly have a panic attack. I had 2 the day I started, and 1 with the first increase.....I have one more increase, then that is the dose I will be on for the rest of the 12wks.
I asked mom about the issues you had and she didn't have them. Now she did have major back surgery when she was taking it so she couldn't tell what caused the bladder control issues.
post #36 of 56
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Day 6:

no issues at all

I am on day 7 today, and do the final increase tomorrow.

I have NOT had any more incontinence issues, or panic attacks since the increase days.... So I'm trying not to think about it but I'm prepared for tomorrow to be a little yucky because I'm increasing both the am. and pm. doses.

My quit date is one week from today....(I messed up, I thought I said June 10th, dunno why).
post #37 of 56
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Ok, ugggggggg.

Last increase today.... The morning 0.5mg pill changed to a 1mg pill... and the same thing happens with the evening pill.

I can't really describe how I feel... I took the pill 2.5hrs ago, and feel ugggg.

But then there's compounding factors....like weather oriented pain, and I woke up groggy this morning...

I wouldn't say I'm nauseous, but my tummy does not feel 100%. (I did eat with the pill, if I don't, then I do feel nauseous).... my head feels kinda blah, the beginnings of a headache.

Only thing I can say, is definate dry mouth....

Good thing is, I don't feel the need for a smoke. I've had my morning coffee, and taken my pain pills (both activities normally make me need a smoke).

The pyschological part, I want to have a smoke to see if it tastes like crap or does anything for me.... but I certainly do not need a smoke.

So who knows.... I might quit today. I'm going to see how the day goes, no pressure, and just wait and see if there comes a point where I actually need a smoke.

and on that note, i'm grabbing some toast then going to lay down for a bit.
post #38 of 56
Just sending you a supportive hug my dear!!!!!

21 days from my last cigarette today . I NEED to make this the LAST time I quit... I have quit soooo many times!
post #39 of 56
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Day 8: yesterday

No side effects at all with the first pill increase
Some nausea with the second pill because I didn't eat with it... i took it about a couple hours after eating dinner and figured that would be fine... it wasn't...

I had a total of 3 cigarettes yesterday

The champix really helps

The test will be today (and the rest of the week).... I'm under a bit more stress once the weekend is over because hubby leaves and won't be home till Friday.
post #40 of 56
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Originally Posted by Snake_Lady View Post
Day 8: yesterday

No side effects at all with the first pill increase
Some nausea with the second pill because I didn't eat with it... i took it about a couple hours after eating dinner and figured that would be fine... it wasn't...

I had a total of 3 cigarettes yesterday

The champix really helps

The test will be today (and the rest of the week).... I'm under a bit more stress once the weekend is over because hubby leaves and won't be home till Friday.
You definitely have to find things to keep you busy even if it is just sleep.
Wait until things start to taste and smell better. No more sore throat, stinky breath or junk in the lungs.
post #41 of 56
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Originally Posted by Crazyforinfo View Post
You definitely have to find things to keep you busy even if it is just sleep.
Wait until things start to taste and smell better. No more sore throat, stinky breath or junk in the lungs.
Yup, I have a sinking suspicion that I may be "napping" more often. (I put more details in the quitting smoking thread, cuz they weren't directly related to Champix....they were my smoking triggers n' such)

I am definately looking forward to savoring my food. That's one thing I recall vividly the one time I quit.... having some yellow beans and just "wowing" over the taste.

I have to laugh.... everyone I've talked to has said they've had vivid weird dreams. It seems to be a very common side effect.

Of course, me being me, cannot have the common side effects....(aside from the nausea) nooooo. I have to have incontinence and panic attacks I want weird dreams LOL
post #42 of 56
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Originally Posted by Snake_Lady View Post
Yup, I have a sinking suspicion that I may be "napping" more often. (I put more details in the quitting smoking thread, cuz they weren't directly related to Champix....they were my smoking triggers n' such)

I am definately looking forward to savoring my food. That's one thing I recall vividly the one time I quit.... having some yellow beans and just "wowing" over the taste.

I have to laugh.... everyone I've talked to has said they've had vivid weird dreams. It seems to be a very common side effect.

Of course, me being me, cannot have the common side effects....(aside from the nausea) nooooo. I have to have incontinence and panic attacks I want weird dreams LOL
Yea I didn't get the weird dreams just more of them.
post #43 of 56
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ok, I can say that this med is working for me

I am on day 10...and I had my last cigarette on Day 8. I did not quit on purpose...my actual quit date is day 14, this coming Sat. But on Sunday, I made it 5hrs without one, so Monday I decided to try for longer... and succeeded.

I feel pretty darn good....I can take a deeper breath than normal, and my chest didn't hurt when I woke up today

I do think with these meds, you need to follow your body's reaction to them. If you don't, I don't think you'll end up quitting.

Day 1-3 I could have quit.... I didn't want to smoke, didn't feel like smoking, and I guess you could say that I "forced" myself to smoke. After that I smoked alot.... more than usual. Then when I increased the final increase on Day 8, I didn't feel like smoking much. I went 5hrs without, and had 3 in total that day... then none.

My reasoning is simple, based on what I did in the beginning, I figure if I wait till my quit date on Sat. the not feeling like smoking may not be there anymore as the increase in meds has stabalised in my system now.

side effects now: none. Unless I don't eat with the pill. If I don't eat, I will be nauseous.
- no increased anxiety since day 5, and I'm back to taking my anxiety meds the same as I was prior to starting this med.
- no panic attacks since day 4
- no sleep issues
-no incontinence (other than the one time)

My only cigarette withdrawl symptom, appetite increase yesterday and today. But I am comfortable in saying its not a withdrawl symptom, but a side effect of not smoking.... food is tasting better to me, and its a case of I want to try this or that and see how it tastes..... rather than the cigarette withdrawl symptom of needing something in your mouth.

I would highly recommend these meds to anyone, as long as they do know the potential side effects. But I am sooooo glad I didn't quit taking them after my first 2 bad panic attacks.... I'm glad I know my body well enough to know that I have side effects to most, if not all, drugs that affect brain chemicals.

I'm very happy right now. 37hrs and going strong.
post #44 of 56
Chris, that's wonderful news! Keep it up girl!
post #45 of 56
Way to go Chris!! You're doing fantastic!! I'm glad to hear the side effects are gone!
I'm rooting for ya!!!
post #46 of 56
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Today is my 19th day on Champix, and I quit smoking the evening of day 8.

With this med, you are supposed to pick a date in between day 8 and 14 to quit. I picked day 14 and ended up quitting before that because I listened to my body. In hindsight, I could have quit just as easily on day 2 of the pills, but to an extent I forced myself to smoke because I didn't really want to smoke but it wasn't my quit date yet....by day 4 I was back to thoroughly enjoying smoking.

On day 8, I had my final increase in meds, and just didn't feel like smoking. I had 3 smokes that day, and listened to my body rather than waiting till a quit date.

This med works best if you listen to it.... I think if I had not listened, then I would have had a harder time quitting on my quit date, than when I did quit.

It is definately worth the price IMHO.
post #47 of 56

Am almost 8 months off them thanks to Champix. Smoked 20+ a day for 30 years. Gave Champix up soon (after a month) because I couldn't stand the side effects, but I reckon that is so much better than smoking. My husband still smokes in the house and I succeeded.

post #48 of 56

My DH is a project manager for smoking cessation at the Heart Institute here in Ottawa, and according to studies, Champix is the most effective smoking cessation tool for most people.

post #49 of 56
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My DH is a project manager for smoking cessation at the Heart Institute here in Ottawa, and according to studies, Champix is the most effective smoking cessation tool for most people.

I don't agree.... IMHO vaping is biggthumpup.gif
post #50 of 56

I gave up in January 18th this year using Champix, I was a 20/30 a day person and had smoked for 40 years, jaw-dropping.gif I found the year before that I couldnt take the full strenth champix ( I had a really bad reaction to it) So this year I decided to try a half dose, buy the end of the month I was on a half of a half and after a month and a half I stoped taking them I havent smoked since so for me they really worked well.clap.gif  

post #51 of 56
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WOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Good for you. I too had some pretty yucky side effects, and did not take it for the "suggested" length of time.... I ended up missing a dose shortly after my last posting, and said screw it.... I had already quit, no desire to smoke, etc. and I did NOT want to go through the symptoms I experienced, so I was done taking it.

 

Happy to say it's been over 2yrs (wow, were does time go) since I quit..... and with all the bs in my life, I can't say I haven't thought about it..... I did, I thought about smoking again when things first went horrible, BUT............... with all the times I've quit before, I know I cannot just have one cigarette. As well as, once me and my girls have to move, money is going to be tighter than it is now, and I wouldn't be able to afford it.

 

Yup, I would definately vouch for Champix, I know without a doubt that I would not have quit smoking without it. I didn't want to quit..... didn't have the drive of motivation....sure I wanted to in a minor way (because my ex was a non smoker) but we all know that one has to quit when they are fully ready to. I was nowhere near that. The Champix made me quit LOL.

 

If a person knows about the side effects (some lucky ppl don't have any) and can handle them, this is by far, the BEST smoking cessation product out there, IMO (and I've tried most of em LOL)

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I gave up in January 18th this year using Champix, I was a 20/30 a day person and had smoked for 40 years, jaw-dropping.gif I found the year before that I couldnt take the full strenth champix ( I had a really bad reaction to it) So this year I decided to try a half dose, buy the end of the month I was on a half of a half and after a month and a half I stoped taking them I havent smoked since so for me they really worked well.clap.gif  



 

post #52 of 56
clap.gifclap.gifclap.gifclap.gifclap.gif Congratulations, Chris - two years !!!!!!!!!!!! That is great clap.gifclap.gif. I have heard that Chantix really does work but the side effects are scary to me. I never went on that when my doctor recommended it to me and Larry. We were just able to quit "cold turkey" but I will admit, I still will sneak one once in awhile frown2.gif I know I have to give it up for good. AND it is just too expensive to smoke anymore. agree.gif
post #53 of 56
Whoa, yeah, Chantix. My stepdad was a pack a day guy for quite some time and has been able to cut back lately clap.gif but he was on Chantix for a while.

The side effects were just madness. He had the crazy dreams, but the waking effects were even worse. His mood swings were terrible; he wasn't himself at all. The worst episode was when he called my sister, who is a little overweight, "porky" when they were having an argument, and then he walked into the garage and cried like a baby. It was completely unlike him, and that's when he knew he had to stop taking it.

He smokes a lot less nowadays, but I think it's just impossible for him to go cold turkey. Hopefully he'll be able to quit soon.

ETA: He was an Army ranger and then a Apache/Huey pilot for 25 years, so crying is just not something he does. LOL
post #54 of 56
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He smokes a lot less nowadays, but I think it's just impossible for him to go cold turkey. Hopefully he'll be able to quit soon.
He might be a good candidate for vaping (e-cigarettes), but he should check out forums like the e-cigarette-forum (dot com) before buying anything. The ones that look like cigarettes aren't worth the money or aggravation. You still get nicotine, but not the thousands of other toxins, and don't have to worry about ersatz behavior(s).
post #55 of 56

Champix is the Canadian equivalent of Chantix?  I have heard horror stories about it and IIRC, the FDA stated that it should only be used as a last resort.

post #56 of 56
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Originally Posted by zohdee View Post

Champix is the Canadian equivalent of Chantix?  I have heard horror stories about it and IIRC, the FDA stated that it should only be used as a last resort.



Yes it is.... same thing just slightly different name. And yes, some people have been quite sensitive to it.

But, for me, it was the only thing that worked..... so even though I had really crappy (non-lifethreatening) side effects, I also haven't had a smoke in over 2yrs....so it was worth it to endure the effects of each dose increase in my case.

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