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post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
I know that this isn't technically a breeding question, but I think some of you breeders will have more perspective and experience in helping me.

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So, some of you may have seen my thread on my mysterious balding kitten, if not long story short I rescue pregnant cats from bad situations, we had a female give birth last month to a litter of kittens. The coal black one began loosing its fur at a week old, the fur loss was not all over the body, but was not patchy either. Veterinarian stumped. After total fur loss over the main body area new grey/white fur began to grow in, New fur is wavy.

Well, I had this weird realization that her new fur coloration and patterning is like that of what I see described as seal point color.





Now, firstly-- are seal points born looking different? My girl was born coal black and then began to loose her fur at around a week old.

Secondly, has there ever been any DSH seal points? I seem to find mostly Persians, Ragdolls and Himalayans google search.

Her mother is a dark tabby, her siblings are two tabbys (one light and one dark), and a solid blue/grey. I have no idea about her father as she was a rescue.
post #2 of 17
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Originally Posted by Breellablue View Post
I know that this isn't technically a breeding question, but I think some of you breeders will have more perspective and experience in helping me.

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So, some of you may have seen my thread on my mysterious balding kitten, if not long story short I rescue pregnant cats from bad situations, we had a female give birth last month to a litter of kittens. The coal black one began loosing its fur at a week old, the fur loss was not all over the body, but was not patchy either. Veterinarian stumped. After total fur loss over the main body area new grey/white fur began to grow in, New fur is wavy.

Well, I had this weird realization that her new fur coloration and patterning is like that of what I see described as seal point color.





Now, firstly-- are seal points born looking different? My girl was born coal black and then began to loose her fur at around a week old.

Secondly, has there ever been any DSH seal points? I seem to find mostly Persians, Ragdolls and Himalayans google search.

Her mother is a dark tabby, her siblings are two tabbys (one light and one dark), and a solid blue/grey. I have no idea about her father as she was a rescue.
Weird - as far as I know, Seal points are born white, and the points get darker as they age.
Maybe this kitten's dad is a Devon Rex, or another breed with curly hair? Weird, I never heard of that happening - Definitely a special guy you got there! Are you keeping him?
post #3 of 17
Pointed cats do start out white and then darken as the cat gets older.
I think there might be some kind of Rex in that kitten.
I would sat Devon or Cornish.
Here is some info on pointed cats.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_(coat_color)
I had a seal point siamese years ago.
post #4 of 17
I thought the first Devon was bred from a stray cat with curly hair? Which would mean curls could appear in unpedigreed cats.

I don't know about the hair loss, but agree pointed cats are born white.
post #5 of 17
Here is info on Devon Rex.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devon_Rex
post #6 of 17
Thread Starter 
I've actually been calling her Devon as a name since someone suggested it as a possibility last week.

The mother came from a one bedroom trailer with 40ish other cats, I'll try to ask the rescue girl who worked directly with the family if they had any pure breeds at any time. I'm pretty interested in genetics and this kitten intrigues me to no end. And thank you for the info that seal points are usually born white. I really wish I had an explanation for the sudden fur loss she experienced, the veterinarian I took her to was stumped. Totally floored because every idea he could think of was negated by her age and lack of immune system.

From what I have read on those links, specifically the German Rex page, the rex gene can surface randomly in any litter. *sigh* guess without an expensive PCR test I'll never really know.

However I read that Rex's can have very bad reactions to anesthetic-- I know I have lots of time but when she goes to be spayed should I note this on her file to be safe?
post #7 of 17
That doesn't look seal point to me.

It doesn't really look pointed at all to me.

But as to whether DSH can be pointed, yes, certainly... Hennessy is a DSH (and Disa is a DLH) and they are both pointed cats.
post #8 of 17
Thread Starter 
Now that I know that seal points are born white, and don't go bald as they age (lol) I just think she's a very unique cat. With all she's been through with the balding and the manhandling by the vet at such a young age she's still very friendly and cuddly. So long as she's eating and healthy right? the texture of her fur is pleasant to touch, very different from any other cat I've had comtact with before. I spent some quality time with her today, we've decided to change her name from Devon, which my boyfriend's mother hated, to Zeta. Meh not my choice but who ever adopts her can call her what they want. The names are just for medical and behavioral reference while we foster them.
post #9 of 17
Not just seals, all points are white at birth.
post #10 of 17
Thread Starter 
see, I learn something new every day!
post #11 of 17
And, pointed cats have blue eyes.
post #12 of 17
It doesn't look like a curly coated cat to me at all?? Would be interested in seeing photos in a few weeks
post #13 of 17
Thread Starter 
The past few days it's looking more like waves. There are still some guard hairs sparsely placed in the grey fur area which seems to have stopped growing.
post #14 of 17
She could have the same natural mutation that started the LaPerm breed.
http://www.lapermcats.com/LPSAhistory.html

Kitty could end up being a shaded type of black. My Mom's black LaPerm has a shaded grey ruff around his neck. He is an odd color. He goes almost bald in the Spring when he sheds. He came from a very bad situation as a kitten, so I don't know how representative of the breed his is. He was a rescue.

post #15 of 17
Thread Starter 
Interesting, but she wasn't born bald. Zeta started balding at about a week of age, and the blue/white fur growing in at around three weeks of age. It's too bad I'll never know her potential because she's going to be spayed as per policy of the rescue. I've started to accept that she's just unique and one of a kind.
post #16 of 17
If you part the fur on the dark colored areas, is the base/bottom of the hairs black or is it the same color or similar color as the kitten's grayish body fur?

If the base of the fur is lighter in color it could just be that the lighter colored fur on the body is her undercoat growing back in. If she went completely bald on her body and now is growing her hair back, the undercoat is usually the first to grow back so perhaps her top coat has just not grown in yet (or may not grow in.) This would also explain why the texture is so different because undercoat can often be wavy, soft, and different texture than the 'top' coat.

It is strange that she lost her fur in a pattern but it is not unheard of for animals with some medical conditions to lose the fur on the body but not on the extremities. For example ferrets with adrenal disease lose fur but sometimes still have full fur on the legs and head.
Here is a photo:
http://www.laneferrets.org/assets/images/adrenal2.gif
post #17 of 17
Thread Starter 
Vet ruled out adrenal because of age. The fur that never fell out is sold black all the way down.
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