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I think we've heard some of this before, right?
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Excellent thread! Sometimes I get so frustrated when in the health forum I post that it is best not to buy OTC or online and other posters chime in with "I've been buying online for years and nothing has happened". I whisper to myself "thank God, so far, so good".

I was in a pet food store one day and a lady came in asking for a dewormer for her dog. I didn't mind my own business () and asked her what type of worm and she didn't know, she just wanted a generic wormer. I told her she should have a stool sample checked by the vet before just giving any dewormer and her reply: "Oh, we don't take our animals to the vet for just every little thing". How do you reason with ignorance like that?
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Originally Posted by Yosemite View Post
"Oh, we don't take our animals to the vet for just every little thing". How do you reason with ignorance like that?
Point out that a generic wormer won't kill all worms and that if not properly treated pets can give some worms to people. That usually grosses them out enough that they actually remember what you've said.

OTC like Bio spot and Hertz are different than simply buying a known product specifically dosed for use in cats and dogs such as Advantage. You can buy them legitimately, just like people can mail order their medications. There's very few sites/companies I would trust to order those through. Being able to look them up though better business bureau helps - Drs Foster and Smith would be a good example.

Apparently one can also check with National Association of Pet Pharmacies for complaints and to make sure they are a licensed pharmacy.

Overall, my view is that none of it is safe. There's always the risk of side effects, including serious ones, when putting or giving an insecticide or pesticide to your pet. Just because it comes in a package with a cat or dog on it, and you get it from your vet, doesn't mean you shouldn't be aware of what you're giving your pet. The same can be said for human medications as well, and the long term affects those have that your doctor or pharmacist does not tell you about.
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Even Frontline Plus is mentioned there. I won't use anything unless it comes from my vet - my dogs have never had an issue with Frontline (except Izzy - but she can't have any flea preventative) - but the one time I bought from Petco, even, made Macey have a sore on her back from it. I'd rather pay through the nose & err on the side of caution by getting flea preventative through my vet.

I do wish there was an alternative - but for where my dogs go & where I live - flea & tick preventative is necessary. I picked tick off Coco this morning already!
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I used Hartz Flea and Tick shampoo on my dog once and I hope he forgives me. The poor guy was scratching himself for days because it was such a skin irritant. Between that and the fact that all the Hartz pet treats seem to come from China I never buy anything from them anymore.

Edite to add: Poo they took away the link, I bet because it named the companies.
Never mind, here is a link to the EPA site.
They removed the names of the companies and I bet that's why they took down the news story.

Edited yet again: Found a news story that names names
According to "The LA News" investigation of flea and tick products, dated March 20, 2009, over the counter shampoos and drops sold by major companies such as Sergeant's, Bio Spot and Hartz, all contained pyrethrins or the synthetic version, pyrethroids, which are identical to those pesticides used in common household products such as "Raid" used to kill bugs in our homes. "LA News" reported that sales persons in several stores where they purchased these products told them that the products were completely safe for pets.
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I will never use flea and tick treatment from Hartz again, or anything else (well maybe toys). My first cat had an extreme reaction from it. It burned his skin and caused a welt plus he was lethargic, drooling and extremely sick. The vet said it was a reaction to the flea treatment. There was a defined lesion and swelling in the exact place I put it on. From that point on, all my cats get their flea/tick treatments from the vets, but there is still the chance of allergic reaction to anything.
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This site is a little inflammatory (I'm also not fond of the black background / white lettering) but it does contain hard info on the active ingredients used in the OTC vs the prescription only treetments.
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