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post #1 of 15
4/22/09 at 6:03pm
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Four weeks now. Let them out of the box for the first time.
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post #2 of 15
4/22/09 at 7:07pm
Oh my stars... they are just too cute!!
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post #3 of 15
4/22/09 at 7:32pm
You've got some very nice van pattern bicolors. Some breeders would kill for those patterns on the cats!
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post #4 of 15
4/22/09 at 9:50pm
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Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45 View Post
You've got some very nice van pattern bicolors. Some breeders would kill for those patterns on the cats!
ah, ah! Is the novice-class open in that breed??

If yes, do you also get the same idea??
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post #5 of 15
4/23/09 at 2:23am
Thanks for your remarks on the little ones. They aren't very good pics. It isn't easy getting them all to sit still at the same time. I have some ideas for pictures of them individually. I don't understand what you mean by the novice class or breeders. Our barn cat, Ranger is the father. He has weird markings. Never thought much of it. I am so glad I caught Slick. She was the only female left, so now no more kittens. I would have been a basket case if they had been born in the barn. There are fox and coyotes plus a busy road. I probably would have slept out there to keep them safe! lol Should Slick be getting any kind of milk? She gets wet food, but does not drink much water. Babies are fat and sassy, but she is a bit on the thin side. Just don't want her milk to suffer or her. Any thoughts? Thanks all!
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post #6 of 15
4/23/09 at 8:39am
Just a comment about the pattern. I know they are mixed breeds and not pedigrees. I had a very striking mixed breed black/white bicolor. She honestly was one of the few perfect marked bicolors (50/50 on color/white). When we were showing her in HHP classes, we often had American SH breeders ask if she was spayed or not cause they wanted to breed her!

She also had odd-eyes - one deep blue (like a Siamese) and one gold-green.
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post #7 of 15
4/23/09 at 8:48am
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Originally Posted by farleyv View Post
Thanks for your remarks on the little ones. They aren't very good pics. It isn't easy getting them all to sit still at the same time. I have some ideas for pictures of them individually. I don't understand what you mean by the novice class or breeders. Our barn cat, Ranger is the father. He has weird markings. Never thought much of it. I am so glad I caught Slick. She was the only female left, so now no more kittens. I would have been a basket case if they had been born in the barn. There are fox and coyotes plus a busy road. I probably would have slept out there to keep them safe! lol Should Slick be getting any kind of milk? She gets wet food, but does not drink much water. Babies are fat and sassy, but she is a bit on the thin side. Just don't want her milk to suffer or her. Any thoughts? Thanks all!
She should probably be getting kitten food, does she eat dry at all? They need a lot of calories when they are nursing!
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post #8 of 15
4/23/09 at 8:56am
Awwwww so cute
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post #9 of 15
4/23/09 at 8:59am
They are so sweet
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post #10 of 15
4/23/09 at 9:14am
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Originally Posted by farleyv View Post
She gets wet food, but does not drink much water. Babies are fat and sassy, but she is a bit on the thin side.
Milk as such isnt necessary for cats. Besides, many cats can get diarrhea from laktose in modern milk (old fashioned, not pasteurised milk was easier for them). Homeless cats are survivors, but it is better not to take any risks with a nursing mom... Althought you can give her low-lactose milk if you and she want (preferably whole, not low-fat). It is a good calcium-source, and some proteins and fat.

Wet food does contains a lot of water, thus she dont need to drink much water. Entirely normal. But she must of course have free access to fresh water.
Wet food of good quality is a good start. But as the litter is rather big, she may perhaps need a little extra, calcium for example.

How is it, do you have salomonella in eggs where you live? If not, a very good receipt is:

Gruel made preferably on low-lactose milk. Corn=maize gruel also OK.
Butter.
yolk (=the yellow of eggs)
some dextrose (a sugar, you can buy it in every food-shop in Sweden, I presume also in most other countries.
a little salt.


Mince meat with yolk in it is also good.


Good quality kitten dry food may be useful yes. Or for example Orijen very good adult food, richer in proteins and fats then most.
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post #11 of 15
4/23/09 at 9:40am
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I don't understand what you mean by the novice class or breeders.
Oh, we know your cats are moggies, so we do joke a little. But only a little: more then one renown pedigree cat DID began as a moggie and later novice.
One example I know for fact is one renown Russian Blue in Tjeckien, the mother and ancestor of the Tjeckish Russian Blue...

I shall try to explain a little if you want. Forgive my english..

Pedigree = breed cats are, as name says, breed by a breeder. All their ancestors are known, etc... They have certificates to proof it.
But there is sometimes a possiblity for an cat with unknown ancestors, perhaps a stray cat, to be accepted as a pedigree cat and get their certificate.
This is done by a novice-exam by two international judges, or, as it sometimes called, in a novice-class at cat shows.
The novices ARE often pedigree cats, who dont have papers.
But not so seldom, they ARE moggies. But of the type very good and useful for a cat race.

Your kittens are quite alike Turkish Van. So if a Turkish Van breeder would be interested in them - she would perhaps try to exam one or several of them for two judges as novices for using in her breeding.
If they are accepted, they counts as pedigree but get a preliminary certificate.
Their kittens must be shown and get good results in shows as Turkish Van if they want to be counted as pedigree Turkish Van.
Also the grandchildren.
But after it - they get normal certificates.
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post #12 of 15
4/23/09 at 4:18pm
Aww, what precious little sweethearts
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post #13 of 15
4/24/09 at 2:19am
i especially like the one w/the 2 black spots over the back legs - really unusual!
they're all cuties, of course!
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post #14 of 15
4/24/09 at 4:11am
Oh my Lord.....more pics please!!
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post #15 of 15
4/24/09 at 8:41am
Ah, I did forgot. Milk products!
About milk and extra nourishment. Milk as such isnt necessary for cats, still it is a good source for calcium, and also useful proteins and fats.

As I said, not all cats copy with common milk. Laktose-reduced milk is thus safer.

Also almost all milk-products are safer then milk: thus cheese, butter, yoghurt of all the sorts, cream (cream + water is often used).

If she likes it - give it.


Almost the only exception is goat-butter. Goat butter contains quite a lot of milk-sugar = laktose. Yet goat butter is useful home-remedy if a cat gets some constipation (=hard stomach, hard poo).
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