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post #121 of 134
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You didn't answer my question.
That's because you asked me to clarify something that I didn't say in the first place.

The photographs are there, 15 so far, with her (now) admitting that there are "probably more". 5 of them are topless. So far, she has blamed the wind, a wardrobe malfunction, the photographer, the website that posted the photos, that there was only one, that she was underage...she is yet one more prime example of someone so egocentric that she can't accept the blame for her own actions, and is not only willing, but comfortable with lying to get what she wants. A liar through and through.
post #122 of 134
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Oh dear, Shanna Moakler resigned. LOL, now that is going to leave a mark.
Yes, good luck with your application to be the new Pageant Director, as you seem content with having Donald Trump as your moral compass.

Since...

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Did she skirt the truth? Yeah probably, whatever.
I see your transformation to the Dark Side is complete.
post #123 of 134
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Originally Posted by Keycube View Post
Yes, good luck with your application to be the new Pageant Director, as you seem content with having Donald Trump as your moral compass.

Since...



I see your transformation to the Dark Side is complete.
Just call me Darth Vader.
post #124 of 134
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Originally Posted by Skippymjp View Post
That's because you asked me to clarify something that I didn't say in the first place.

The photographs are there, 15 so far, with her (now) admitting that there are "probably more". 5 of them are topless. So far, she has blamed the wind, a wardrobe malfunction, the photographer, the website that posted the photos, that there was only one, that she was underage...she is yet one more prime example of someone so egocentric that she can't accept the blame for her own actions, and is not only willing, but comfortable with lying to get what she wants. A liar through and through.
I take that as a "no"
post #125 of 134
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I take that as a "no"
And I take it that means you've not looked at the photographs. It's in a "slide show" format, it's not hard at all to make it work. All you have to do is click on it.

It's all too obvious that you're trying to change the nature of your debate by qualifying (or quantifying) how you define "nude". No one even hinted at "totally nude", that was all you. Now that even more topless pictures have turned up, these taken when she was 20 (that she also "forgot" about), the only remaining position supporting her is to create strawman arguments...or, just right out lie like she does.

She lied then, she has lied since, and will no doubt lie about it some more, as she seems to have a genuine proclivity to lie whether she needs to or not.
post #126 of 134
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Originally Posted by Keycube View Post
Yes, good luck with your application to be the new Pageant Director, as you seem content with having Donald Trump as your moral compass.
Let's not get carried away here.



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I see your transformation to the Dark Side is complete.
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Just call me Darth Vader.
Too funny, Cindy. Thanks for that!
post #127 of 134
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Originally Posted by Skippymjp View Post
And I take it that means you've not looked at the photographs. It's in a "slide show" format, it's not hard at all to make it work. All you have to do is click on it.

It's all too obvious that you're trying to change the nature of your debate by qualifying (or quantifying) how you define "nude". No one even hinted at "totally nude", that was all you. Now that even more topless pictures have turned up, these taken when she was 20 (that she also "forgot" about), the only remaining position supporting her is to create strawman arguments...or, just right out lie like she does.

She lied then, she has lied since, and will no doubt lie about it some more, as she seems to have a genuine proclivity to lie whether she needs to or not.
Yes, once the spin stops, the truth is so obvious Her "excuses" are as clumsy as her answer to "The Question" was
post #128 of 134
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Originally Posted by Skippymjp
She lied then, she has lied since, and will no doubt lie about it some more, as she seems to have a genuine proclivity to lie whether she needs to or not.
Sounds like she's ready for a career in politics.
post #129 of 134
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Of course she does, for now. Trump is a diplomat, you don't get to be obscenely rich by making potential customers mad, and he knows exactly how he would be viewed if he tanks her at this moment. He's merely going to do a "Vanessa Williams" on her and pile on the pressure for her to "resign".
Trump is so predictable. The only thing being, I was sure that he'd just force her into resignation. He went one further than I though he would by actually firing her.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,525716,00.html
post #130 of 134
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If she did miss scheduled obligations as Miss California and did unsanctioned appearances that promoted her anti-gay-marriage agenda, then she deserves to be stripped of her crown. She had fair warning and made the choice to essentially rip up the contract. Trump is a good businessman, though. He did give her a second chance, she blew it, and it's a good month since all the fervor. This is all but a side-note.
post #131 of 134
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Trump is so predictable. The only thing being, I was sure that he'd just force her into resignation. He went one further than I though he would by actually firing her.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,525716,00.html

First thing I thought when I heard this news yesterday, was, "Dang, Skippy was right, they did get rid of her in the end after the dust settled"
post #132 of 134
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
First thing I thought when I heard this news yesterday, was, "Dang, Skippy was right, they did get rid of her in the end after the dust settled"
Mike rocks!

Seriously, it seemed pretty obvious from the beginning that she wasn't going to be around long once the hoopla started about her comments that weren't exactly "politically correct". She wasn't setting that good example that is so important in these things.

The truth isn't even an issue, it all about appearances and perception.
post #133 of 134
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This is a link to a series of emails between Carrie and the director of Miss California. It's on Fox, who is obviously a more right leaning source, and this really doesn't put Carrie in a good light. (First email is at the bottom, then read up.)

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,525726,00.html

It sounds to me like they had every reason to fire her. She got a little too big for her britches, making demands like that. The girl also needs to learn a little professional etiquette in correspondence. I don't care if that's via Blackberry or not, you don't use "u" and "ur" in professional emails, and you NEVER speak to your boss like that!
post #134 of 134
Whoa. She DOES sound like a spoiled brat to me. And she was the darling of the right wing, as people like Hannity were defending her to the hilt.

I NEVER thought that she wasn't chosen Miss USA was because of her views on gay marriage. I always thought it was because of her delivery of her message and not her politics. Even though she is a striking beauty, the way she speaks to Mr. Lewis is certainly not "beautiful." I guess in her case beauty is only skin deep. She got what she deserved. Kuddos to Mr. Lewis for making these email exchanges public.
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